Dangerous Dog Next Door!
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Boosted LS1 said:
It was the suggestion that they enjoy fighting that I noticed. I doubt they actually get enjoyment at all.
Hard one to quantify I guess. Dogs definitely enjoy play fighting, and with the fighting breeds tolerance to pain, you could argue that it is then just like a boxing/UFC thing where injuries do happen. The adrenaline will be flowing like crazy. It isn't like it is some sort of red mist when they are fighting as they are still able to be handled correctly, so some form of control remains. It really is interesting to see how different breeds play (or "fight") as Byron is amazingly good at copycatting the playstyle of the many breeds he encounters. His favourite by far though is playing bitey face with his springer mate. Looks savage, but never any injuries!
When our Dobe was a pup, he used to wrestle with a great dane and drag it over despite the fact it was huge compared to him. One of our friends has Dobermanns and watching them play made me on edge as they used to really go for it. It's only playing but they played hard!
We'd originally looked at getting a different breed as a second dog, but due to the way they play, we got another Dobe to keep things on an even keel.
We'd originally looked at getting a different breed as a second dog, but due to the way they play, we got another Dobe to keep things on an even keel.
HappyMidget said:
Boosted LS1 said:
It was the suggestion that they enjoy fighting that I noticed. I doubt they actually get enjoyment at all.
Hard one to quantify I guess. Dogs definitely enjoy play fighting, and with the fighting breeds tolerance to pain, you could argue that it is then just like a boxing/UFC thing where injuries do happen. The adrenaline will be flowing like crazy. It isn't like it is some sort of red mist when they are fighting as they are still able to be handled correctly, so some form of control remains. I think that this thread might be going a bit sideways. There is a difference between pets, working animals and fighting dogs. I suspect that the dog next door will be a pet. Fighting dogs have obviously been damaged and will need rehab. There is redemption and you can read about it in a book about Michael Vick's dogs.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lost-Dogs-Michael-Rescue-...
For the OP, if you're worried about starting a family, run the numbers in your head. You don't have any children now so I suspect that it will be at least 6-7 years before you take your eyes off them. By then, the said dangerous dog would be blind, deaf and not interested in doing anything other than taking naps.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lost-Dogs-Michael-Rescue-...
For the OP, if you're worried about starting a family, run the numbers in your head. You don't have any children now so I suspect that it will be at least 6-7 years before you take your eyes off them. By then, the said dangerous dog would be blind, deaf and not interested in doing anything other than taking naps.
Gaz. said:
durbster said:
You didn't address any of my other points.
Let me do you a favour- Twig thinks dogs can't tell the difference between people and cats- are you really going to waste your time discussing anything against such an idiotic mindset?I would also ask if people think that in every case of a dog attacking a child, that dog had a bad owner? I'm sure most did, but do you not think it's a possibility that the owner was fine, and something else drove the dog to attack. Inbred instinct having come from a line of dogs selectively bred for aggression perhaps?
alabbasi said:
I think that this thread might be going a bit sideways. There is a difference between pets, working animals and fighting dogs. I suspect that the dog next door will be a pet. Fighting dogs have obviously been damaged and will need rehab. There is redemption and you can read about it in a book about Michael Vick's dogs.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lost-Dogs-Michael-Rescue-...
For the OP, if you're worried about starting a family, run the numbers in your head. You don't have any children now so I suspect that it will be at least 6-7 years before you take your eyes off them. By then, the said dangerous dog would be blind, deaf and not interested in doing anything other than taking naps.
Yep and if they have friends with young kids no need to worry about inviting them round. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lost-Dogs-Michael-Rescue-...
For the OP, if you're worried about starting a family, run the numbers in your head. You don't have any children now so I suspect that it will be at least 6-7 years before you take your eyes off them. By then, the said dangerous dog would be blind, deaf and not interested in doing anything other than taking naps.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
To an extent, you're right. I think it's perfectly possible that a dog, seeing a baby crawling across the garden, could confuse that with a cat or another dog. Are you saying that could never happen?
I would also ask if people think that in every case of a dog attacking a child, that dog had a bad owner? I'm sure most did, but do you not think it's a possibility that the owner was fine, and something else drove the dog to attack. Inbred instinct having come from a line of dogs selectively bred for aggression perhaps?
You clearly do not understand dogs. It has been explained to you many times how it works yet you are being block headed about understanding it so it would seem. You really are no wonder kid.I would also ask if people think that in every case of a dog attacking a child, that dog had a bad owner? I'm sure most did, but do you not think it's a possibility that the owner was fine, and something else drove the dog to attack. Inbred instinct having come from a line of dogs selectively bred for aggression perhaps?
Gaz. said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Gaz. said:
durbster said:
You didn't address any of my other points.
Let me do you a favour- Twig thinks dogs can't tell the difference between people and cats- are you really going to waste your time discussing anything against such an idiotic mindset?I would also ask if people think that in every case of a dog attacking a child, that dog had a bad owner? I'm sure most did, but do you not think it's a possibility that the owner was fine, and something else drove the dog to attack. Inbred instinct having come from a line of dogs selectively bred for aggression perhaps?
king stupid.Not as effectively as you`ve moved it to a lower level.
Anyhoo, had an issue with a biter before. Owner was warned it would be slotted on the spot next time.
Dog spent the rest of it`s life in the back garden fully enclosed.
No excuse for a biting dog, or even an aggressive dog. Almost exclusively the owners fault.
Anyhoo, had an issue with a biter before. Owner was warned it would be slotted on the spot next time.
Dog spent the rest of it`s life in the back garden fully enclosed.
No excuse for a biting dog, or even an aggressive dog. Almost exclusively the owners fault.
This thread has now simply degenerated into a spat between a few guys
Shame that you have to wade through it to see the very genuine and honest posts by a few. And that's a real shame Twig made some good points as did his opposite but as all to often happens it just ends up as tit for tat
Shame that you have to wade through it to see the very genuine and honest posts by a few. And that's a real shame Twig made some good points as did his opposite but as all to often happens it just ends up as tit for tat
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 2nd November 22:35
techiedave said:
This thread has now simply degenerated into a spat between a few guys
Shame that you have to wade through it to see the very genuine and honest posts by a few. And that's a real shame Twig made some good points as did his opposite but as all to often happens it just ends up as tit for tat
he made no useful posts in actual fact, just incoherent u informed ramblings. Shame that you have to wade through it to see the very genuine and honest posts by a few. And that's a real shame Twig made some good points as did his opposite but as all to often happens it just ends up as tit for tat
Edited by techiedave on Thursday 2nd November 22:35
Pesty said:
How about getting a decent fence from your side and moving the concrete bench for her on hers?
Why are we talking about moving or dogs being put down when a fence is all that is required,
No evidence of any humans being hurt
I have no problem helping to move the concrete bench, hopefully this will be done on Saturday. Unfortunately there is evidence of human harm, as she has been attacked by one of the dogs when trying to get them back after they had escaped over/through the fence at the top of her garden. In fairness the fence joining our 2 gardens isn't the best and would benefit from replacement, but if the dogs weren't an issue then I would quite happily leave it. I don't see why we should lose out financially when she isn't prepared to take her responsibilities as a dog owner, let alone a certificated dog owner, seriously. Why are we talking about moving or dogs being put down when a fence is all that is required,
No evidence of any humans being hurt
I understand but as you've already said she doesn't sound too stable and probably isn't able financially or otherwise
Sometimes you've just got to bite the bullet. Fence panels are not that expensive and make your property look better anyhow.
Just seems an easier route then getting all official. Taking a way a loved pet from an unstable old lady won't do her much good or the dog.
Help a lady out .
Sometimes you've just got to bite the bullet. Fence panels are not that expensive and make your property look better anyhow.
Just seems an easier route then getting all official. Taking a way a loved pet from an unstable old lady won't do her much good or the dog.
Help a lady out .
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