Cautionary tale regarding rescue dogs.
Discussion
popeyewhite said:
Lazermilk said:
Is it? What makes you think she wont?
Lazermilk said:
I'm sure etc etc.
You're can't be sure of anything, you've never met the girl. Also, I never mentioned anything about not being cautious, I simply mentioned it was nice that she has a dog she knows and could trust to help get over it, I never said it would happen overnight as it will clearly take time.
Lazermilk said:
Also, I never mentioned anything about not being cautious, I simply mentioned it was nice that she has a dog she knows and could trust to help get over it, I never said it would happen overnight as it will clearly take time.
The above shows you've actually missed my point entirely. 
popeyewhite said:
Lazermilk said:
Also, I never mentioned anything about not being cautious, I simply mentioned it was nice that she has a dog she knows and could trust to help get over it, I never said it would happen overnight as it will clearly take time.
The above shows you've actually missed my point entirely. Everyone is speaking her behalf and no one actually knows her here except her brother. Let's just leave her recovery (emotionally) for them to deal with.
popeyewhite said:
Lazermilk said:
Also, I never mentioned anything about not being cautious, I simply mentioned it was nice that she has a dog she knows and could trust to help get over it, I never said it would happen overnight as it will clearly take time.
The above shows you've actually missed my point entirely. bexVN said:
popeyewhite said:
Lazermilk said:
Also, I never mentioned anything about not being cautious, I simply mentioned it was nice that she has a dog she knows and could trust to help get over it, I never said it would happen overnight as it will clearly take time.
The above shows you've actually missed my point entirely. Everyone is speaking her behalf and no one actually knows her here except her brother. Let's just leave her recovery (emotionally) for them to deal with.
popeyewhite said:
bexVN said:
I think the point is that the OP's sister is a grown woman and the only one who can know if she feels comfortable around dogs again so soon.
At last.Lazermilk said:
popeyewhite said:
Lazermilk said:
Is it? What makes you think she wont?
Lazermilk said:
I'm sure etc etc.
You're can't be sure of anything, you've never met the girl. Also, I never mentioned anything about not being cautious, I simply mentioned it was nice that she has a dog she knows and could trust to help get over it, I never said it would happen overnight as it will clearly take time.
pidsy said:
Dogs trust do not put healthy dogs down.
They simply pass any animal that doesn’t fit into their very tight guidelines of “family image dog” to a different local rescue. That way, the advertising is correct (they don’t euthanase healthy dogs) then lumber local centres with the stuff they don’t want.
I unfortunately have fairly intimate knowledge of their business model. Their advertising budget and glossy magazines do a great deal to present the correct image.
It’s a money making organisation at the end of the day and they make a whole lot of money.
Yes, Dogs Trusts income of £80 million plus a year is a very big business. They simply pass any animal that doesn’t fit into their very tight guidelines of “family image dog” to a different local rescue. That way, the advertising is correct (they don’t euthanase healthy dogs) then lumber local centres with the stuff they don’t want.
I unfortunately have fairly intimate knowledge of their business model. Their advertising budget and glossy magazines do a great deal to present the correct image.
It’s a money making organisation at the end of the day and they make a whole lot of money.
pidsy said:
xjay1337 said:
pidsy said:
Dogs trust do not put healthy dogs down.
They simply pass any animal that doesn’t fit into their very tight guidelines of “family image dog” to a different local rescue. That way, the advertising is correct (they don’t euthanase healthy dogs) then lumber local centres with the stuff they don’t want.
I unfortunately have fairly intimate knowledge of their business model. Their advertising budget and glossy magazines do a great deal to present the correct image.
It’s a money making organisation at the end of the day and they make a whole lot of money.
Back OT - your sis needs that sorted OP, keep the support up.
Can you recommend any other local rescue type centers other than Dogs-Trust then?They simply pass any animal that doesn’t fit into their very tight guidelines of “family image dog” to a different local rescue. That way, the advertising is correct (they don’t euthanase healthy dogs) then lumber local centres with the stuff they don’t want.
I unfortunately have fairly intimate knowledge of their business model. Their advertising budget and glossy magazines do a great deal to present the correct image.
It’s a money making organisation at the end of the day and they make a whole lot of money.
Back OT - your sis needs that sorted OP, keep the support up.
I’m north west London and have contacts locally to me as well as Surrey and Kent. Breed specific tend be be good but as mentioned in this thread already, the love for the dogs sometimes overrides the nature of the dogs themselves.
Have a meeting with the NAWT tomorrow hopefully with a view to adopt a beautiful Collie cross who is apparently lacking in confidence.
Does seem a palava though.... all the hoops you need to jump through etc.
I signed up with German Shepherd Rescue a few months back, passed the home check and the phone assessment easily. Then was passed to the nearest administrator. She was the rudest, most arrogant, opinionated woman I've ever encountered in dogs. Our 35 years experience with the breed was meaningless to her.
blade7 said:
I signed up with German Shepherd Rescue a few months back, passed the home check and the phone assessment easily. Then was passed to the nearest administrator. She was the rudest, most arrogant, opinionated woman I've ever encountered in dogs. Our 35 years experience with the breed was meaningless to her.
Really hope ours isn't that bad...I've had loads of experience with different dogs as has my partner. I work from home and she works 3 on , 4 off anyway.
I will quite happily say to these people no thanks if it gets too much and get a puppy, but I like rescuing animals..!
Just don't like the whole rigamarole of it, ultimately you're trying to do the dog and the centre a favour and they make it as hard as possible sometimes.
xjay1337 said:
South East
Have a meeting with the NAWT tomorrow hopefully with a view to adopt a beautiful Collie cross who is apparently lacking in confidence.
Does seem a palava though.... all the hoops you need to jump through etc.
I found Rescue Remedies brilliant to deal with - http://www.rescueremediesdogrescue.co.uk/index.php - and R.R treat their dogs fantastically well. They have an army of volunteers and take on some dogs that aren't going to get re-homed anywhere else. They do a lot of good work for their hounds.Have a meeting with the NAWT tomorrow hopefully with a view to adopt a beautiful Collie cross who is apparently lacking in confidence.
Does seem a palava though.... all the hoops you need to jump through etc.
xjay1337 said:
pidsy said:
xjay1337 said:
pidsy said:
Dogs trust do not put healthy dogs down.
They simply pass any animal that doesn’t fit into their very tight guidelines of “family image dog” to a different local rescue. That way, the advertising is correct (they don’t euthanase healthy dogs) then lumber local centres with the stuff they don’t want.
I unfortunately have fairly intimate knowledge of their business model. Their advertising budget and glossy magazines do a great deal to present the correct image.
It’s a money making organisation at the end of the day and they make a whole lot of money.
Back OT - your sis needs that sorted OP, keep the support up.
Can you recommend any other local rescue type centers other than Dogs-Trust then?They simply pass any animal that doesn’t fit into their very tight guidelines of “family image dog” to a different local rescue. That way, the advertising is correct (they don’t euthanase healthy dogs) then lumber local centres with the stuff they don’t want.
I unfortunately have fairly intimate knowledge of their business model. Their advertising budget and glossy magazines do a great deal to present the correct image.
It’s a money making organisation at the end of the day and they make a whole lot of money.
Back OT - your sis needs that sorted OP, keep the support up.
I’m north west London and have contacts locally to me as well as Surrey and Kent. Breed specific tend be be good but as mentioned in this thread already, the love for the dogs sometimes overrides the nature of the dogs themselves.
Have a meeting with the NAWT tomorrow hopefully with a view to adopt a beautiful Collie cross who is apparently lacking in confidence.
Does seem a palava though.... all the hoops you need to jump through etc.
xjay1337 said:
blade7 said:
I signed up with German Shepherd Rescue a few months back, passed the home check and the phone assessment easily. Then was passed to the nearest administrator. She was the rudest, most arrogant, opinionated woman I've ever encountered in dogs. Our 35 years experience with the breed was meaningless to her.
Really hope ours isn't that bad...I've had loads of experience with different dogs as has my partner. I work from home and she works 3 on , 4 off anyway.
I will quite happily say to these people no thanks if it gets too much and get a puppy, but I like rescuing animals..!
Just don't like the whole rigamarole of it, ultimately you're trying to do the dog and the centre a favour and they make it as hard as possible sometimes.
blade7 said:
pidsy said:
Dogs trust do not put healthy dogs down.
They simply pass any animal that doesn’t fit into their very tight guidelines of “family image dog” to a different local rescue. That way, the advertising is correct (they don’t euthanase healthy dogs) then lumber local centres with the stuff they don’t want.
I unfortunately have fairly intimate knowledge of their business model. Their advertising budget and glossy magazines do a great deal to present the correct image.
It’s a money making organisation at the end of the day and they make a whole lot of money.
Yes, Dogs Trusts income of £80 million plus a year is a very big business. They simply pass any animal that doesn’t fit into their very tight guidelines of “family image dog” to a different local rescue. That way, the advertising is correct (they don’t euthanase healthy dogs) then lumber local centres with the stuff they don’t want.
I unfortunately have fairly intimate knowledge of their business model. Their advertising budget and glossy magazines do a great deal to present the correct image.
It’s a money making organisation at the end of the day and they make a whole lot of money.
https://www.civilsociety.co.uk/news/dogs-trust-s-i...
blade7 said:
We've bought most of our dogs as puppies, but decided to try rescue this time. We gave up after the repeated rudeness, and bought a 2 year old from a breeder. No secrets, super temperament, excellent elbow, hip and DM results. I've no doubt there are some great dogs in rescues, good luck.
Just an update the Border Collie we went to view seemed so shy and timid, but when alone you could see how happy and bouncy she is.She will be a lot of work but the NAWT center were actually really good, Natasha I think her name is, at the Hungerford branch, was really helpful, proactive and friendly. Defo appreciate the suggestion to look at NAWT.
We had a chat with her, filled in a couple of questions on a small A5 booklet thing, then we are allowed to meet the animal, met Cadi the Collie and she was just adorable and I really do think that we can help her.
We have now got her reserved, we are meeting her again on Monday and then introducing our dog to her (I can't see any issues with this as our Benny has never been aggressive towards animals and previously lived with a Collie.
In comparison I went to view a German Shepard x Collie at Dogs Trust and I was made to feel inadequately skilled to look after such a dog.
Went to visit, filled in the huge 4 page document.
Was told I was allowed to go look at the animal in the Kennel (no contact) then come back and await a chat after they looked through the application.
Did that, then sat around for 20 minutes until some woman said "sorry are you waiting or...?"
Told I couldn't meet the animal properly that day, and that they would call me. That was on Tuesday. Haven't heard anything.
The advert stated that he would be able to live with another dog, but when saying we had a King charles X, I was told this wasn't good, and that the dog cannot live with small furries, but then told that another family had been interested in the GS.X , but they had chickens and were more suitable!
Such a frustrating process, I honestly don't mind not being suitable for the animal but the whole thing, especially with dogs trust, seemed a right pain.
Hopefully the Mixes with Cadi and Benny go well and as long as that's all OK we look forward to giving her a forever home and helping to build her confidence back up.
All Dogs come with Teeth irrelevant of size some of the nastiest Dogs I have encountered are Jack Russels. The only issue with Rescue Dogs is that their past lives are not fully understood regardless of what Rescue centres say and its highly unlikely people will hand over a Dog and say " we beat it senseless and now its a nervous wreck". We have had rescue Dogs for over 20 years now but we have a few rules we don't ever change. We never let them off a lead ( we have a large Garden for that) we don't bring them out when visitors call and never let Children near them.
This may seem excessive but its done to protect them as 3 of them had a history of biting. We usually have three of them at any one time but now we just have the two German Shepherds having lost Suki 12 months ago.
We take Dogs with poor history's and never forget they come to us damaged. ROxi came to us 7 years ago and we were not allowed to make eye contact with her whilst she was in the cage she was so scared and aggressive and was in an isolation cage separated with Blue Police tape but after about three weeks of visits and introducing our Bull Mastiff and German shepherd she finally came home with us.
This may seem excessive but its done to protect them as 3 of them had a history of biting. We usually have three of them at any one time but now we just have the two German Shepherds having lost Suki 12 months ago.
We take Dogs with poor history's and never forget they come to us damaged. ROxi came to us 7 years ago and we were not allowed to make eye contact with her whilst she was in the cage she was so scared and aggressive and was in an isolation cage separated with Blue Police tape but after about three weeks of visits and introducing our Bull Mastiff and German shepherd she finally came home with us.
irc said:
blade7 said:
pidsy said:
Dogs trust do not put healthy dogs down.
They simply pass any animal that doesn’t fit into their very tight guidelines of “family image dog” to a different local rescue. That way, the advertising is correct (they don’t euthanase healthy dogs) then lumber local centres with the stuff they don’t want.
I unfortunately have fairly intimate knowledge of their business model. Their advertising budget and glossy magazines do a great deal to present the correct image.
It’s a money making organisation at the end of the day and they make a whole lot of money.
Yes, Dogs Trusts income of £80 million plus a year is a very big business. They simply pass any animal that doesn’t fit into their very tight guidelines of “family image dog” to a different local rescue. That way, the advertising is correct (they don’t euthanase healthy dogs) then lumber local centres with the stuff they don’t want.
I unfortunately have fairly intimate knowledge of their business model. Their advertising budget and glossy magazines do a great deal to present the correct image.
It’s a money making organisation at the end of the day and they make a whole lot of money.
https://www.civilsociety.co.uk/news/dogs-trust-s-i...
blade7 said:
irc said:
blade7 said:
pidsy said:
Dogs trust do not put healthy dogs down.
They simply pass any animal that doesn’t fit into their very tight guidelines of “family image dog” to a different local rescue. That way, the advertising is correct (they don’t euthanase healthy dogs) then lumber local centres with the stuff they don’t want.
I unfortunately have fairly intimate knowledge of their business model. Their advertising budget and glossy magazines do a great deal to present the correct image.
It’s a money making organisation at the end of the day and they make a whole lot of money.
Yes, Dogs Trusts income of £80 million plus a year is a very big business. They simply pass any animal that doesn’t fit into their very tight guidelines of “family image dog” to a different local rescue. That way, the advertising is correct (they don’t euthanase healthy dogs) then lumber local centres with the stuff they don’t want.
I unfortunately have fairly intimate knowledge of their business model. Their advertising budget and glossy magazines do a great deal to present the correct image.
It’s a money making organisation at the end of the day and they make a whole lot of money.
https://www.civilsociety.co.uk/news/dogs-trust-s-i...
She’s retired, pootles around the village and would be perfect for a dog.
When she was talking to a member of staff they mentioned that she’d put that she doesn’t go out of the house for any real period of time (she’d take the dog if it was longer). They asked her if she ever goes food shopping - “of course I do, once a week”.
Their response was to say that obviously she had lied on the paperwork about leaving the dog alone. She was no longer suitable for rehoming one of their dogs and would not be welcome there again.
I also banned. But that’s another story.
pidsy said:
blade7 said:
irc said:
blade7 said:
pidsy said:
Dogs trust do not put healthy dogs down.
They simply pass any animal that doesn’t fit into their very tight guidelines of “family image dog” to a different local rescue. That way, the advertising is correct (they don’t euthanase healthy dogs) then lumber local centres with the stuff they don’t want.
I unfortunately have fairly intimate knowledge of their business model. Their advertising budget and glossy magazines do a great deal to present the correct image.
It’s a money making organisation at the end of the day and they make a whole lot of money.
Yes, Dogs Trusts income of £80 million plus a year is a very big business. They simply pass any animal that doesn’t fit into their very tight guidelines of “family image dog” to a different local rescue. That way, the advertising is correct (they don’t euthanase healthy dogs) then lumber local centres with the stuff they don’t want.
I unfortunately have fairly intimate knowledge of their business model. Their advertising budget and glossy magazines do a great deal to present the correct image.
It’s a money making organisation at the end of the day and they make a whole lot of money.
https://www.civilsociety.co.uk/news/dogs-trust-s-i...
She’s retired, pootles around the village and would be perfect for a dog.
When she was talking to a member of staff they mentioned that she’d put that she doesn’t go out of the house for any real period of time (she’d take the dog if it was longer). They asked her if she ever goes food shopping - “of course I do, once a week”.
Their response was to say that obviously she had lied on the paperwork about leaving the dog alone. She was no longer suitable for rehoming one of their dogs and would not be welcome there again.
I also banned. But that’s another story.
My mum is a busy person but the dog goes everywhere with her, she has a camper so when she is at one of her many Jazz festivals he goes with her and they both sleep in the van, he is hardly ever by himself at home and if he is it is for an hour or 2 max once a week.
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