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anonymous-user

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54 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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yellowtang said:
Blimey OP, this thread has resurrected some painful memories. Only 'dog' people can properly understand the heartache you are going through. You've made me fetch a whisky...

I had to have my soulmate put to sleep 5 years ago and even now, reading this reduces me to tears. Like you, I had the vet come to my house as I didn't want him to be scared. In fact, I still have the pair of jeans and jumper that I wore that morning as he led on my lap. They haven't been worn or washed since and still smell of him.

I've not been able to face getting another dog yet, my wife is desparate to get one. Particularly now that we have a family and are about to move into a very large old house (houses like that need dogs apparently!)

Getting a new dog would make me feel disloyal and in any event, I'm not sure I could go through such heartbreak again......

I got drunk every night for the first couple of weeks (being self employed is useful at times!) Whisky helped tremendously smile

On that note - I shall raise my glass to you and your wonderful dog!
Unfortunately I was not 100% clear regarding having her put down at home. This is exactly what I wanted to happen but my family and I wanted confirmation that we were doing the right thing. We knew in the back of our minds we were but we wanted someone to take that decision away.

Took her to the vets to get checked out. She hated the vets and was doing her normal shaking but I was holding her tightly and lots of hugs. We were seen and the vet started checking different area's and you could tell she was sore. Her back was hunched up on the table and she just looked tired.

The vet offered us steroid painkillers if we wanted to take her home but said the oral painkillers she had been on was not strong enough now. I could tell she was struggling and didn't want to put her through anymore. She then received the first sedative which basically put her in a very comfortable sleep.

The rest was a bit of a blur. I just could not face taking her home knowing she would just continue to struggle. That is not what Molly was about.

I am like you and have her bed and blanket which she loved in front of me. They will not be given away or washed. That was her special things even though the whole house was basically her kennel biggrin

Regarding another dog I was exactly the same after the family Lab when I was younger had to be put down. This was done at the house hence why I was so upset with myself taking Molly to the vet. Held Tess the Labs paw when she was put to sleep and said to myself never again.

But Molly appeared out of the blue about 5 years after we lost the Lab. We were not even looking for a dog. Like you I felt disloyal to Tess when Molly appeared but within half a day it was just epic having a dog back in the house. She was totally different to the Lab and basically nuts. Honestly it was the best day since losing Tess. I never thought I would have ever said that.

Knowing how much you loved your dog it just shows how much love you could give another pup. It would actually be tragic that you didn't have another dog as you are clearly the perfect owner.

Yes it's terrible when they go but even now I would not change a thing about having Molly in my life. She made it as special as Tess did.

Thank you for sharing mate. Really means a lot when people take the time to support.


Jasandjules

69,895 posts

229 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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May I also say as hard as it seems the BEST way you can honour your dog is to share your love with another. They would want you to.

HTP99

22,552 posts

140 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Humphrey (our Pug) absolutely hated the vets, he would put the brakes on when just walking past, once in he'd shake and just wouldn't settle.

He had a degenerative condition which affected his lower spine, his back end was paralised so he had wheels to get around.

Anyway him being PTS effectively came out of the blue (we knew we would have to do it at somepoint but he had a decent quality of life and was in no pain), I went down in the morning to give him his breakfast, he was slumped in the corner of the hall but perked up when he saw me, I put him out for his food (he ate in the porch as he struggled to hold on to a wee when eating), and he passed blood, I knew from that point that this was the day!

We didn't have time to organise a vet to come over to the house so we went straight to the vets, but what was weird was, he was really calm at the vets, he'd never been calm at the vets, he just stayed in my arms looking content, almost as if if he knew what was coming and was at peace with himself, it was very surreal.

As for another dog, well we weren't looking and I said to the wife that I wanted to leave it some time and then lo and behold a month later I was told about a year old deaf Frenchie who's owner was desperately trying to re-home, the rest is history, the Frenchie is 6 this year and still with us.

There are pictures of Humphrey all around the house and his ashes are in a wooden box with a plaque, placed on the top of a unit with his collar on top, surrounded by a couple of cards from the vets, expressing their sympathy.

mustdash

360 posts

128 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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OP, I feel for you.

Last April I had to have my best mate Charlie put to sleep, after he was diagnosed with a very aggressive form of cancer. From having a lump removed and the vets being quite optimistic they'd caught it in time, to it spreading to his liver and kidneys and having him put to sleep was about 10 days. He helped me through some tough times - times where I may have done something silly if he hadn't been there - as he knew when I was feeling rubbish. It was the hardest thing I've ever had to do (he was my first dog, and at 37 I was a mess on the floor of the vets). I still can't bring myself to spread his ashes, and still talk to him. I was in the lucky position that he was his normal, happy, playful self until the morning he made that final trip, when he was very clear that he'd given up his fight. That made it so much easier, as he told me when it was time.

Thinking of you at this time.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Jasandjules said:
May I also say as hard as it seems the BEST way you can honour your dog is to share your love with another. They would want you to.
It is something I will look into once things settle down. The biggest issue is due to my circumstances and being in a rental property.

I was lucky to find a landlord will to accept a pet as many in this area don't. I totally understand this from the point of a landlord.

He was saying that the couple prior to us moving in had a dog and when they left the dogs mess was left all around the garden which he had to clean up.

Unfortunately this then can have private landlords put off but I was amazed he agreed.

Once I have my private house in the future I will be looking into having another dog. The time this will take will help in the process of getting over Molly.

Thank you for your words smile

anonymous-user

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54 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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HTP99 said:
Humphrey (our Pug) absolutely hated the vets, he would put the brakes on when just walking past, once in he'd shake and just wouldn't settle.

He had a degenerative condition which affected his lower spine, his back end was paralised so he had wheels to get around.

Anyway him being PTS effectively came out of the blue (we knew we would have to do it at somepoint but he had a decent quality of life and was in no pain), I went down in the morning to give him his breakfast, he was slumped in the corner of the hall but perked up when he saw me, I put him out for his food (he ate in the porch as he struggled to hold on to a wee when eating), and he passed blood, I knew from that point that this was the day!

We didn't have time to organise a vet to come over to the house so we went straight to the vets, but what was weird was, he was really calm at the vets, he'd never been calm at the vets, he just stayed in my arms looking content, almost as if if he knew what was coming and was at peace with himself, it was very surreal.

As for another dog, well we weren't looking and I said to the wife that I wanted to leave it some time and then lo and behold a month later I was told about a year old deaf Frenchie who's owner was desperately trying to re-home, the rest is history, the Frenchie is 6 this year and still with us.

There are pictures of Humphrey all around the house and his ashes are in a wooden box with a plaque, placed on the top of a unit with his collar on top, surrounded by a couple of cards from the vets, expressing their sympathy.
Just sounds like Molly. Doubt many dogs after having to stay overnight at a vets in the past would want to return even for a check up.

I was hoping Molly would be too weak to notice. But as soon as we parked the car she started shaking. Talk about making you feel bad.

Molly was such a calm and none aggressive dog. But when she got the first needle she attempted to bite the vet which has never happened. She had to have a muzzle put on which was a shock. She had cancer of the bladder and it was her rear that the needle went into so clearly she was sore.

The sedation was great for the dog but it I could have done with some myself at that point. I said I was going to be strong and not get upset but that went out the window.

It sounds very much like Humphrey knew what was going to happen and was happy. Obviously for you it must have been hell but knowing he was calm must have made a huge difference.

Delighted you got another dog. They never replace what you have lost but they just bring a new different experience and character to your family. You are clearly a very caring family.

Yes I have pictures orders and like a shrine set up in my bedroom. This will all be moved to different parts of the house but just needed to be close to her things for the first few days.

Thank you for sharing your experience and memories. Means a lot and helps


anonymous-user

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54 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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mustdash said:
OP, I feel for you.

Last April I had to have my best mate Charlie put to sleep, after he was diagnosed with a very aggressive form of cancer. From having a lump removed and the vets being quite optimistic they'd caught it in time, to it spreading to his liver and kidneys and having him put to sleep was about 10 days. He helped me through some tough times - times where I may have done something silly if he hadn't been there - as he knew when I was feeling rubbish. It was the hardest thing I've ever had to do (he was my first dog, and at 37 I was a mess on the floor of the vets). I still can't bring myself to spread his ashes, and still talk to him. I was in the lucky position that he was his normal, happy, playful self until the morning he made that final trip, when he was very clear that he'd given up his fight. That made it so much easier, as he told me when it was time.

Thinking of you at this time.
My word that must have been very hard. Like a nasty roller coaster of emotions. To having a optimistic outlook from the vet to losing your friend in 10 days. frown

Molly help me through very rough times. It just seemed to be one thing after an other yet she was there for me. As you say they just knew when you needed them. They were there. This is why when it came to the end it was so hard being helpless when she needed me. I know there is nothing I could have done but you do think strange things when your emotional.

If you ever want to spread the ashes they you can but it's not something you ever need to do. If it gives you a comfort having the ashes there then keep them. I could not even think of spreading her ashes and they will be kept.

Thank you so much for sharing your story. Even with time it must be hard to bring up.



Berkshire bred

985 posts

75 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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I know I haven't posted on this thread for a couple of days but I'm very much still thinking about your loss. It has been yet another reminder to enjoy the time I have left with my ageing mate. Really like the picture frame idea.

At the moment Jack (my dog) is led tight along side me as he knows I'm feeling very thoughtful. I really can't imagine him not being there anymore.

Do whatever it takes to make yourself feel better, get pissed, be angry, bash one out, time to yourself or be social. Whatever it takes. As they say laughter is the best form of medicine. When I'm struggling I find watching people hurt themselves in ever more inventive ways on YouTube normally goes a long way to chearing me up, or at least raising a smile.

Chin up fella, you and Molly are in all of our thoughts.

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

12,958 posts

100 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Condolences Jim. A fellow dog lover here, we have 3. I've been where you're at, it is tough. Without wanting to be harsh you will feel crap for at least a few more weeks. Don't let it catch you off guard, it's completely normal to grieve.

Vent as much as you need to on here. Anyone who's ever had a dog shall feel your pain, and be here for support. All the best.



Edited by Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah on Thursday 19th July 19:23

anonymous-user

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54 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Berkshire bred said:
I know I haven't posted on this thread for a couple of days but I'm very much still thinking about your loss. It has been yet another reminder to enjoy the time I have left with my ageing mate. Really like the picture frame idea.

At the moment Jack (my dog) is led tight along side me as he knows I'm feeling very thoughtful. I really can't imagine him not being there anymore.

Do whatever it takes to make yourself feel better, get pissed, be angry, bash one out, time to yourself or be social. Whatever it takes. As they say laughter is the best form of medicine. When I'm struggling I find watching people hurt themselves in ever more inventive ways on YouTube normally goes a long way to chearing me up, or at least raising a smile.

Chin up fella, you and Molly are in all of our thoughts.
Just keeping myself as calm as possible. Got my daughter etc. to think about.

When she is sleeping I let my guard down more and have a few drinks. Not slept more than an hour or so each night since Saturday when I knew things were going South. I do speak about it to her but just keep my emotions in check. She has slight learning difficulties and cerebral palsy. Molly really helped her after some past trauma so it has hit her hard as well.

As you say watching people is funny situations does bring you out of the thought process. Was doing that with my daughter last night. Watching people falling on ice which was sick but hilarious.

Think I am going to try and get out for a drink this weekend. Just try and catch up with some friends. Getting away from it for a night will surely help.

Thank you again mate. Some great support and wishes on here. smile



anonymous-user

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54 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
Condolences Jim. A fellow dog lover here, we have 3. I've been where you're at, it is tough. Without wanting to be harsh you will feel crap for at least a few more weeks. Don't let it catch you off guard, it's completely normal to grieve.

Vent as much as you need to on here. Anyone who's ever had a dog shall feel your pain, and be here for support. All the best.



Edited by Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah on Thursday 19th July 19:23
I think because it's a pet you don't want to mention it to anyone. Like it's a bit crazy being so upset about a pet. But as you know they are so much more than that.

This is why venting on a thread like this and having fellow pet owners telling their past experiences makes it easier in a way to get your feeling out.

It's refreshing to have conversations with people who actually care about your situation. smile

Berkshire bred

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75 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
Berkshire bred said:
I know I haven't posted on this thread for a couple of days but I'm very much still thinking about your loss. It has been yet another reminder to enjoy the time I have left with my ageing mate. Really like the picture frame idea.

At the moment Jack (my dog) is led tight along side me as he knows I'm feeling very thoughtful. I really can't imagine him not being there anymore.

Do whatever it takes to make yourself feel better, get pissed, be angry, bash one out, time to yourself or be social. Whatever it takes. As they say laughter is the best form of medicine. When I'm struggling I find watching people hurt themselves in ever more inventive ways on YouTube normally goes a long way to chearing me up, or at least raising a smile.

Chin up fella, you and Molly are in all of our thoughts.
Just keeping myself as calm as possible. Got my daughter etc. to think about.

When she is sleeping I let my guard down more and have a few drinks. Not slept more than an hour or so each night since Saturday when I knew things were going South. I do speak about it to her but just keep my emotions in check. She has slight learning difficulties and cerebral palsy. Molly really helped her after some past trauma so it has hit her hard as well.

As you say watching people is funny situations does bring you out of the thought process. Was doing that with my daughter last night. Watching people falling on ice which was sick but hilarious.

Think I am going to try and get out for a drink this weekend. Just try and catch up with some friends. Getting away from it for a night will surely help.

Thank you again mate. Some great support and wishes on here. smile
I imagine your daughters difficulties can be very difficult at times for both you and her, I hope she can deal with Molly's passing in her own way.
glad to hear that you've got the option to get out and try to enjoy yourself. Invaluable to have people to talk to at times even if their not animal type of people, sometimes that might be a godsend so it takes your mind off the current situation.

Yes some of the youtube videos are a guilty pleasure, when you're watching you think I shouldn't be laughing at this and I bet that really bloody hurt! But I still find myself pissing myself laughing at some of them.
As I said before do whatever it takes and don't worry what others think, perhaps a bad phrase at the moment but as they say, life's to short. ATB.

yellowtang

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138 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
yellowtang said:
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Knowing how much you loved your dog it just shows how much love you could give another pup. It would actually be tragic that you didn't have another dog as you are clearly the perfect owner.

Yes it's terrible when they go but even now I would not change a thing about having Molly in my life. She made it as special as Tess did.

Thank you for sharing mate. Really means a lot when people take the time to support.
My Wife went though a similar situation with her 20 (yes TWENTY!) year old Lab. She just took her to the vets for their opinion and upsetting though it was to not be at home, it was right to end her suffering there and then. This happened a couple of years before I lost my dog, so whilst I was very upset, I still had my dog to go home to and cheer me up.

I now wish we'd got another dog at that point, having two (or more!) with a large age gap between them would ease this situation to some degree I guess.

Thank you for your kind words - I know you (and the other posters are right and I probably ought to have dogs in my life again. I shall give it some thought.

Sad as this thread is, it's also very nice to read with so much goodwill being shown by everyone smile

anonymous-user

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54 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Berkshire bred said:
I imagine your daughters difficulties can be very difficult at times for both you and her, I hope she can deal with Molly's passing in her own way.
glad to hear that you've got the option to get out and try to enjoy yourself. Invaluable to have people to talk to at times even if their not animal type of people, sometimes that might be a godsend so it takes your mind off the current situation.

Yes some of the youtube videos are a guilty pleasure, when you're watching you think I shouldn't be laughing at this and I bet that really bloody hurt! But I still find myself pissing myself laughing at some of them.
As I said before do whatever it takes and don't worry what others think, perhaps a bad phrase at the moment but as they say, life's to short. ATB.
Honestly my back story would be a very interesting read. My daughters journey was unfortunately in the same vein in aspects but she is away from that situation and with me full time.

Yes it is challenging and she needs a lot of support and care in certain ways. Not so much physically as she has had an operation since being with me which has helped her walking and other health aspects so she is doing great. Just the past and some issues which still give her night trauma's. Also the learning difficulties and Cerebral Palsy means she needs a lot of emotional support. This obviously was where Molly would be with her and help.

Yes can do your best at times but Molly was just there for her. No questions and she didn't feel like she needed to say anything. Just hugging Molly gave her a lot of time to just be in the moment and relax. Molly was just Molly and she was happy if someone gave her a hug so it was great for both.

As you say some of the clips are pretty full on which makes them even better. Some of the drunks being captured falling over is funny as well as educational. "Don't ever get drunk as this is what could happen. Your father never did this" cough cough.

Think trying to live more without caring what other people think is the way to go.

Heard this quote and loved it. Well I think this is how it went

"If you try and be everyone's cup of tea you will only be a mug" biggrin

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anonymous-user

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54 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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yellowtang said:
My Wife went though a similar situation with her 20 (yes TWENTY!) year old Lab. She just took her to the vets for their opinion and upsetting though it was to not be at home, it was right to end her suffering there and then. This happened a couple of years before I lost my dog, so whilst I was very upset, I still had my dog to go home to and cheer me up.

I now wish we'd got another dog at that point, having two (or more!) with a large age gap between them would ease this situation to some degree I guess.

Thank you for your kind words - I know you (and the other posters are right and I probably ought to have dogs in my life again. I shall give it some thought.

Sad as this thread is, it's also very nice to read with so much goodwill being shown by everyone smile
My word. 20 years old Lab. That is an amazing age. What was she feeding him? biggrin

Yes having two dogs with an age gap would soften the blow. Some of my relations were in that situation but they said the younger dog then needed to have new friend as it would not eat after the older dogs death. Clearly a very strong bond between the dogs as well. They then bought another dog.

I think you will know when the time is right to get another dog. The issue is I was the same as you and if someone else had not taken the control and bought Molly I would still be waiting for the right moment now. That would have been a waste now looking back.

When you get hurt and lose something you love it is very hard to then take a step forward and try again. After Tess I was not interested as it hurt too much. But now even tho it is very early days I would love another dog when my circumstances change housing wise.

You are so right. I nearly didn't post this thread as typing how I felt was hard. But I am so glad I did as the responses have help me so much.

Again I want to thank everyone. Really means a lot smile

W12GT

3,528 posts

221 months

Friday 20th July 2018
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It’s horrible when you know they are coming to the end. We had to have our German short haired Pointer PTS last August and our English Springer Spaniel in May this year. They were both working dogs and I had them with me most of the time. As a family we are really struggling with the loss as our home now feels like a house and they are sorely missed. It’s amazing how you end up missing even the nuisances they could be at food time! We’ve still got one of the dog beds in the corner as our cats lay on there patiently waiting for our Springer to come home....makes me sad every time I walk by it.....


bakerstreet

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165 months

Friday 20th July 2018
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
Thank you.

Finding tonight very hard. Can't face packing her things away yet. So many memories.

She was so affectionate and just knew if you were having a bad day or upset about something. She did this for the whole family.

Think seeing everyone struggling so much tonight is making it even harder.
Sorry to hear about your loss. Looked like a lovely dog.

We struggled doing this and even after a house move and 16 months, his bowls got moved from under the sink in he old house to under the sink in the new house. We are ripping out our kitchen and I found them and I struggled to hold it together. His blankets, leads and everything else are in the loft. There was no way we were throwing them out.

We said goodbye to ours in April of last year and I still struggle struggle typing this post.

You gave the dog a great life and try and remember the good times rather than the last few minutes.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Friday 20th July 2018
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W12GT said:
It’s horrible when you know they are coming to the end. We had to have our German short haired Pointer PTS last August and our English Springer Spaniel in May this year. They were both working dogs and I had them with me most of the time. As a family we are really struggling with the loss as our home now feels like a house and they are sorely missed. It’s amazing how you end up missing even the nuisances they could be at food time! We’ve still got one of the dog beds in the corner as our cats lay on there patiently waiting for our Springer to come home....makes me sad every time I walk by it.....
It's exactly that mate. The memories. The whole house and surrounding area's are full of memories. Even the car had another bed in the rear for her. Honestly spoilt rotten.

To lose two dogs in that short space of time must have been extremely hard. One is bad enough.

Also the fact they were working dog and with you 24/7. Molly was not a working dog but I lost my job a year ago so I spent even more time with her during the final year. Thankfully I had saved a good amount to be able to be with her daily and it was a very precious time.

Do you have new dogs as these were working dogs?

Feel for you mate as it must still be very raw.



anonymous-user

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Friday 20th July 2018
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bakerstreet said:
Sorry to hear about your loss. Looked like a lovely dog.

We struggled doing this and even after a house move and 16 months, his bowls got moved from under the sink in he old house to under the sink in the new house. We are ripping out our kitchen and I found them and I struggled to hold it together. His blankets, leads and everything else are in the loft. There was no way we were throwing them out.

We said goodbye to ours in April of last year and I still struggle struggle typing this post.

You gave the dog a great life and try and remember the good times rather than the last few minutes.
I have actually refrained myself from giving her bowls and lead etc. away. I had them all packed up but I don't want to then regret it in a month's time.

Think it was a coping as seeing her things without her there was just getting too much.

It is crazy how many dogs you now notice when your's is no longer there. Clearly you just pay attention to your surroundings more but there seems to be owners with their dogs everywhere.

Decided to go for a walk she loved last night to try and clear my head. What did I meet. A new puppy Cocker Spaniel. Just about lost it.

Perhaps a sign biggrin

bakerstreet

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165 months

Friday 20th July 2018
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
I have actually refrained myself from giving her bowls and lead etc. away. I had them all packed up but I don't want to then regret it in a month's time.

Think it was a coping as seeing her things without her there was just getting too much.

It is crazy how many dogs you now notice when your's is no longer there. Clearly you just pay attention to your surroundings more but there seems to be owners with their dogs everywhere.

Decided to go for a walk she loved last night to try and clear my head. What did I meet. A new puppy Cocker Spaniel. Just about lost it.

Perhaps a sign biggrin
I can 100% relate to this and think about Herbie every time I see someone walking their dog, which is most days.

Also, I still love giving a random dog a pat and I always go up to a Greyhound if I see one and give them a pat. Usually open with the line, 'can I pat your hound. I used to have a greyhound. Sometimes I just want to chat about dogs (greyhounds). Some owners will oblige.

My wife doesn't like me doing it as she thinks the boys will just go up to random dogs and pat them and I agree this is bad practice, but I miss not having a dog to pat. DOn't think she gets it.

We have had a second child since and my OH wound't even entertain another dog now. She has very much moved on. The house we purchased is also not as well suited as our previous property.