Frenchie does 'fainting goat'

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bernhund

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3,767 posts

193 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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Our young Frenchie (around 16 weeks now), occasionally starts to vomit and when doing so literally falls over sideways with stiff legs like the fainting goats we've all seen online. Pop him back on his feet and all's well. I don't know what would happen if we didn't stand him up again as we're so shocked to see it, we naturally grab him. He forever has something in his mouth from the garden, be it a leaf, twig, acorn, stone, grass, plant and so on. I've never known any of our previous dogs quite so keen! Consequently the 'goat' act is quite worrying because we think he's choking on something.
Before we cart him off to the vet, has anyone else experienced this with a Frenchie or other breed? Apart from this he's full of beans and doesn't appear to have any breathing issues etc.

bexVN

14,682 posts

211 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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It sounds like over stimulation of the vagal nerve which can occur with vomiting.

However this isn't exactly normal so should be checked out. Your pup shouldn't be vomiting often enough for this to have become a regular occurrence either, so both need discussion with a vet.

bexVN

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211 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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This is a screen shot (save you reading the whole article) discussing this.

It does play down the issue, however whilst I know it does happen I would be concerned at the regularity of it and the fact that a Frenchie has enough to contend with around its airways so doesn't need this to be an issue as well!


bernhund

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3,767 posts

193 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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bexVN said:
It sounds like over stimulation of the vagal nerve which can occur with vomiting.

However this isn't exactly normal so should be checked out. Your pup shouldn't be vomiting often enough for this to have become a regular occurrence either, so both need discussion with a vet.
Thank you. We'll get in touch with our vet next week to discuss it. We've seen it happen a couple of times, but of course it could've happened out of sight too.
Still struggling to get the little bugger house trained too!

nickwilcock

1,522 posts

247 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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Bernhund, would love to see a piccie of the little villain!

My girl friend has an utterly adorable 3 yr old Frenchie, but the little bugger still picks things up and gets upset if you try to take them off him. As for house training; well, it has taken years and still the little sod occasionally leaves the odd puddle around her flat.

But the squidgy face and bat ears are to die for! The Frenchie, that is.....

Mr Tom

618 posts

141 months

Saturday 3rd November 2018
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Likely BOAS. Small nares and a too long soft palate for the size of the dogs head means they can’t breath and faint. Very common in brachycephalic dogs and caused by poor breeding.

bernhund

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193 months

Sunday 4th November 2018
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nickwilcock said:
Bernhund, would love to see a piccie of the little villain!

My girl friend has an utterly adorable 3 yr old Frenchie, but the little bugger still picks things up and gets upset if you try to take them off him. As for house training; well, it has taken years and still the little sod occasionally leaves the odd puddle around her flat.

But the squidgy face and bat ears are to die for! The Frenchie, that is.....
Here he is with Wilson. They like to sleep together. Extreme noses on the pair of them!



bernhund

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Sunday 4th November 2018
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Mr Tom said:
Likely BOAS. Small nares and a too long soft palate for the size of the dogs head means they can’t breath and faint. Very common in brachycephalic dogs and caused by poor breeding.
Thank you. It's very sad what us humans do playing with nature like this, be it short noses or German Shepherds hips. We need to take a giant leap backwards.

nickwilcock

1,522 posts

247 months

Sunday 4th November 2018
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What a delightful little Frenchie! He obviously gets on well with his chum!

Be careful with him in the garden as many plants are poisonous to dogs - a list is here: https://www.dogstrust.org.uk/help-advice/factsheet...

Dogs, particularly youngsters, shouldn't be allowed to pick up acorns either as they are toxic. My girlfriend's little rascal is a bugger for picking them up at this time of year and trying to remove them from his mouth isn't easy - unless he's offered something more appealing.