Entitled dog owners
Discussion
otolith said:
CCCS said:
Why not transfer this thread to the Lounge and get a more balanced set of views instead of leaving it in a forum populated by dog lovers.
About a quarter of the population like dogs enough to own one at the moment. Not convinced that many of the remaining 75% are dog-hating weirdos. I'm saying most in this sub-forum are dog /animal lovers. You'd get a more representative range of opinions in the Lounge. But I think you know that is what I meant.
I see you like statistics, here's one for you "250,000 people attending minor injury and emergency units each year due to dog bites."
singlecoil said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
singlecoil said:
But that's not the point. People should be able to go about their business in public without being approached by dogs.
I'm not sure that's in dispute? m_cozzy said:
Any dog that get near me gets a shoeing. Shame someone didn't cave that ones head in with a rock. Sickening.
'Any dog that gets near me...' Not 'any dog attacking me', as others have gone on to discuss, where a response is plainly justified, but 'any dog'. OK, so that's the guide dogs for the blind and Aunty Mabel's beloved pet getting a 'shoeing' then from our resident psycho. Riiighttt, if you say so. I'm not a fan of dogs over a certain size, I've been attacked a couple of times by GSD, one savaged me in the groin for the crime of walking down the street, which left me with hospital treatment and a ball sack like a serial killers facemask. They freak me out, I cannot stand them off the lead coming towards me and when one comes up and thrusts it's head in my groin I die a little. The reaction I get from dog owners when I tell them to get hold of their dog or have a go because fido has jumped up me is insane. They react like I've done something wrong, like I've just attacked a small child. It's fecking insane.
Why would anyone need to defend themselves from an approach?
Defend yourself from an attack by all means but claiming you’d be ‘shoeing’ a dog approaching you just makes you sound like a massive wet wipe.
Why am I not surprised Yellowjack is also a dog hard man as well??
Remarkable how some people just seem to always attract trouble, never their fault eh?
Defend yourself from an attack by all means but claiming you’d be ‘shoeing’ a dog approaching you just makes you sound like a massive wet wipe.
Why am I not surprised Yellowjack is also a dog hard man as well??
Remarkable how some people just seem to always attract trouble, never their fault eh?
CCCS said:
otolith said:
CCCS said:
Why not transfer this thread to the Lounge and get a more balanced set of views instead of leaving it in a forum populated by dog lovers.
About a quarter of the population like dogs enough to own one at the moment. Not convinced that many of the remaining 75% are dog-hating weirdos. I'm saying most in this sub-forum are dog /animal lovers. You'd get a more representative range of opinions in the Lounge. But I think you know that is what I meant.
CCCS said:
I see you like statistics, here's one for you "250,000 people attending minor injury and emergency units each year due to dog bites."
Here's another one for you to put it into context - A&E in England treated 25,000,000 attendances in 2019/2020.m_cozzy said:
Any dog that get near me gets a shoeing. Shame someone didn't cave that ones head in with a rock. Sickening.
I suspect people forget that dogs are just animals. Do you feel the same way about Killer Whales - they kill loads of seals, frequently for fun. That dog owner was an arse for not having it on a lead, but I suspect most dogs would have no bloody clue what a seal was as they’ve never seen one before. If the owner knew there was a seal there, then they are an idiot. Would my dog attack a seal - god knows. It would certainly go up and have a look. It would work it out it smells of fish, so probably food. Would it interpret the seals motion and position as aggression? I have no idea.
CCCS said:
ben5575 said:
blueg33 said:
For the sake of balance I am not keen on dogs and their owners of babies and their owners, but worse than both are 5 year olds that run around restaurants etc and their parents that allow it.
Oh I’d definitely cave the head in of one of those things with a rock/pepper grinder, no doubt. rxe said:
m_cozzy said:
Any dog that get near me gets a shoeing. Shame someone didn't cave that ones head in with a rock. Sickening.
I suspect people forget that dogs are just animals. Do you feel the same way about Killer Whales - they kill loads of seals, frequently for fun. That dog owner was an arse for not having it on a lead, but I suspect most dogs would have no bloody clue what a seal was as they’ve never seen one before. If the owner knew there was a seal there, then they are an idiot. Would my dog attack a seal - god knows. It would certainly go up and have a look. It would work it out it smells of fish, so probably food. Would it interpret the seals motion and position as aggression? I have no idea.
k it was doing that close to the seal god knows. That's fking disgusting. No excuse, a dog should not be attacking anything.
Killer whales don't kill for fun, they use the seal to train their calves.
CharlesdeGaulle said:
'Any dog that gets near me...' Not 'any dog attacking me', as others have gone on to discuss, where a response is plainly justified, but 'any dog'. OK, so that's the guide dogs for the blind and Aunty Mabel's beloved pet getting a 'shoeing' then from our resident psycho. Riiighttt, if you say so.
Might be better if you didn't take things so literally.singlecoil said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
'Any dog that gets near me...' Not 'any dog attacking me', as others have gone on to discuss, where a response is plainly justified, but 'any dog'. OK, so that's the guide dogs for the blind and Aunty Mabel's beloved pet getting a 'shoeing' then from our resident psycho. Riiighttt, if you say so.
Might be better if you didn't take things so literally.wastedyouth86 said:
If you do get attacked by a dog, or your dog is attacking an animal all you have to do to release its jaw, is stick a finger in its bum.. Yeah sure the Seal was all cute but it was also not belonging in that area surely the responsible thing to do was remove it.
Username checks out.There are certainly some very interesting comments being made on this thread, which seems to reflect the real issue, other people!
Surely entitlement is rife everywhere you look on our increasingly busy island, and it's annoying wherever you see it, be it the way the neighbours behave, the annoying person on the train, inconsiderate parking, queue jumping, you name it - generally other people are awful! I love animals, particularly dogs, and have two, so I am probably part of the problem in the eyes of some people. I think that they are both are very friendly, soft, and benign family pets, but they're still animals and therefore sometimes unpredictable. Although they may not know any better in certain situations (ooh squirrel! for example) it's down to me to anticipate their likely behaviour and control them. No one could reasonably argue against out of control animals being at best annoying and in certain extreme situations possibly dangerous, that seal situation is awful for example, but really what it comes back to is a bad owner not controlling their pet. I'm mindful that some people don't like dogs, which is fine, and keep mine on a lead unless in a very suitable location. Also, some people (as stated above by the frankly weird responses, totally out of proportion to the perceived threat) are clearly frightened of dogs, even very friendly specimens, and it's entirely reasonable for them to expect to be left alone and not hassled by other peoples dogs. I've seen an adult hide behind a park bench when sighting my border terrier, which on the surface appears a bit OTT, but as I have no idea what their former experiences were or (possible psychiatric issues) may be, a wide berth and rapid passing meant no further drama. I've never seen a genuinely aggressively out of control (to people) dog, but have no problem in imagining that it could be very frightening - in fact the only dogs I've ever encountered that I thought were aggressive were a pair of Dalmatians that used to stalk and aggressively chase my very timid lurcher some years ago, and the owner never did anything to stop it. All comes back to bad, indifferent, and/or intolerant people. I do wonder whether the people advocating violence against others or their pets for a perceived minor annoyance in a shared public space might consider themselves entitled at all? After all, it usually requires two argumentative people to create a decent drama out of nothing. I suspect more than a touch of internet bravado in some of these comments (shoeing - ha!), and of course it's almost always possible to walk away...
Surely entitlement is rife everywhere you look on our increasingly busy island, and it's annoying wherever you see it, be it the way the neighbours behave, the annoying person on the train, inconsiderate parking, queue jumping, you name it - generally other people are awful! I love animals, particularly dogs, and have two, so I am probably part of the problem in the eyes of some people. I think that they are both are very friendly, soft, and benign family pets, but they're still animals and therefore sometimes unpredictable. Although they may not know any better in certain situations (ooh squirrel! for example) it's down to me to anticipate their likely behaviour and control them. No one could reasonably argue against out of control animals being at best annoying and in certain extreme situations possibly dangerous, that seal situation is awful for example, but really what it comes back to is a bad owner not controlling their pet. I'm mindful that some people don't like dogs, which is fine, and keep mine on a lead unless in a very suitable location. Also, some people (as stated above by the frankly weird responses, totally out of proportion to the perceived threat) are clearly frightened of dogs, even very friendly specimens, and it's entirely reasonable for them to expect to be left alone and not hassled by other peoples dogs. I've seen an adult hide behind a park bench when sighting my border terrier, which on the surface appears a bit OTT, but as I have no idea what their former experiences were or (possible psychiatric issues) may be, a wide berth and rapid passing meant no further drama. I've never seen a genuinely aggressively out of control (to people) dog, but have no problem in imagining that it could be very frightening - in fact the only dogs I've ever encountered that I thought were aggressive were a pair of Dalmatians that used to stalk and aggressively chase my very timid lurcher some years ago, and the owner never did anything to stop it. All comes back to bad, indifferent, and/or intolerant people. I do wonder whether the people advocating violence against others or their pets for a perceived minor annoyance in a shared public space might consider themselves entitled at all? After all, it usually requires two argumentative people to create a decent drama out of nothing. I suspect more than a touch of internet bravado in some of these comments (shoeing - ha!), and of course it's almost always possible to walk away...
Flying machine said:
Surely entitlement is rife everywhere you look on our increasingly busy island, and it's annoying wherever you see it, be it the way the neighbours behave, the annoying person on the train, inconsiderate parking, queue jumping, you name it - generally other people are awful! I love animals, particularly dogs, and have two, so I am probably part of the problem in the eyes of some people. I think that they are both are very friendly, soft, and benign family pets, but they're still animals and therefore sometimes unpredictable. Although they may not know any better in certain situations (ooh squirrel! for example) it's down to me to anticipate their likely behaviour and control them. No one could reasonably argue against out of control animals being at best annoying and in certain extreme situations possibly dangerous, that seal situation is awful for example, but really what it comes back to is a bad owner not controlling their pet. I'm mindful that some people don't like dogs, which is fine, and keep mine on a lead unless in a very suitable location. Also, some people (as stated above by the frankly weird responses, totally out of proportion to the perceived threat) are clearly frightened of dogs, even very friendly specimens, and it's entirely reasonable for them to expect to be left alone and not hassled by other peoples dogs. I've seen an adult hide behind a park bench when sighting my border terrier, which on the surface appears a bit OTT, but as I have no idea what their former experiences were or (possible psychiatric issues) may be, a wide berth and rapid passing meant no further drama. I've never seen a genuinely aggressively out of control (to people) dog, but have no problem in imagining that it could be very frightening - in fact the only dogs I've ever encountered that I thought were aggressive were a pair of Dalmatians that used to stalk and aggressively chase my very timid lurcher some years ago, and the owner never did anything to stop it. All comes back to bad, indifferent, and/or intolerant people. I do wonder whether the people advocating violence against others or their pets for a perceived minor annoyance in a shared public space might consider themselves entitled at all? After all, it usually requires two argumentative people to create a decent drama out of nothing. I suspect more than a touch of internet bravado in some of these comments (shoeing - ha!), and of course it's almost always possible to walk away...
Some paragraphs would have made that much easier.Flying machine said:
There are certainly some very interesting comments being made on this thread, which seems to reflect the real issue, other people!
Surely entitlement is rife everywhere you look on our increasingly busy island, and it's annoying wherever you see it, be it the way the neighbours behave, the annoying person on the train, inconsiderate parking, queue jumping, you name it - generally other people are awful! I love animals, particularly dogs, and have two, so I am probably part of the problem in ...
Stuff. Surely entitlement is rife everywhere you look on our increasingly busy island, and it's annoying wherever you see it, be it the way the neighbours behave, the annoying person on the train, inconsiderate parking, queue jumping, you name it - generally other people are awful! I love animals, particularly dogs, and have two, so I am probably part of the problem in ...
I’m saying that not as an insult but rather than fully quote a balanced post.
As Flying said “busy island”. If everyone had one there would be millions of the things. They’re unnecessary but wanted by the selfish.
Disastrous said:
Why would anyone need to defend themselves from an approach?
Defend yourself from an attack by all means but claiming you’d be ‘shoeing’ a dog approaching you just makes you sound like a massive wet wipe.
Why am I not surprised Yellowjack is also a dog hard man as well??
Remarkable how some people just seem to always attract trouble, never their fault eh?
I guess it depends on how the dog is approaching youDefend yourself from an attack by all means but claiming you’d be ‘shoeing’ a dog approaching you just makes you sound like a massive wet wipe.
Why am I not surprised Yellowjack is also a dog hard man as well??
Remarkable how some people just seem to always attract trouble, never their fault eh?
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