Entitled dog owners
Discussion
t CCCS said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
CCCS said:
They’re unnecessary but wanted by the selfish.
Including your family members presumably. Or are they different? 'Selfish'. Jesus man, get a life.
Are you always butt hurt?
As for 'butt hurt', yes, absolutely. Yes I am. Thanks for offering me the self-awareness from your insight.
Joey Deacon said:
I hope to god the owner of that dog who didn't seem to stick around gets prosecuted over this.
Mail delivers, as always: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9393955/W...Confusing as to why she is standing back and letting someone else pull her dog off, rather than doing it herself...
Edited by hyphen on Tuesday 23 March 23:24
hyphen said:
Mail delivers, as always: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9393955/W...
Confusing as to why she is standing back and letting someone else pull her dog off, rather than doing it herself...
Looks like a nasty little thing. Thats the owner standing back? From her stance and look on her face, looks like she hasnt a clue how to handle it.Confusing as to why she is standing back and letting someone else pull her dog off, rather than doing it herself...
Edited by hyphen on Tuesday 23 March 23:24
bmwmike said:
hyphen said:
Mail delivers, as always: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9393955/W...
Confusing as to why she is standing back and letting someone else pull her dog off, rather than doing it herself...
Looks like a nasty little thing. Thats the owner standing back? From her stance and look on her face, looks like she hasnt a clue how to handle it.Confusing as to why she is standing back and letting someone else pull her dog off, rather than doing it herself...
Edited by hyphen on Tuesday 23 March 23:24
It looks like a terrier mixed with something else. Terriers of any type often have a strong prey drive, my old westies had it.
It will not have been the first time it has been walked past that spot and will likely have had it's eye on the seal for a little while. My dog does this, perks up a little and quickens her step when she knows we are in areas where she has spotted squirrels. Owner has been a fool and ignored well-meaning signs to keep dogs on lead and this is the eventual result. If not her dog, it would eventually have been another.
I reckon the reason they had difficulty separating the animals may have been hesitancy in striking the dog. People will panic in these situations and be reluctant to over-act. Fair play to those that did get stuck in and had the presence of mind to safeguard the seal until trained professionals could attend.
beambeam1 said:
I reckon the reason they had difficulty separating the animals may have been hesitancy in striking the dog. People will panic in these situations and be reluctant to over-act. Fair play to those that did get stuck in and had the presence of mind to safeguard the seal until trained professionals could attend.
blingybongy said:
wastedyouth86 said:
Sorry but when i am out walking my dog on or off lead i get far much more entitled attitude from ramblers and cyclists.
And just because a dog has gone for a seal does not mean it would go for a child.
Maybe not but after that would you trust it?And just because a dog has gone for a seal does not mean it would go for a child.
blingybongy said:
wastedyouth86 said:
Sorry but when i am out walking my dog on or off lead i get far much more entitled attitude from ramblers and cyclists.
And just because a dog has gone for a seal does not mean it would go for a child.
Maybe not but after that would you trust it?And just because a dog has gone for a seal does not mean it would go for a child.
hyphen said:
wastedyouth86 said:
Sorry but when i am out walking my dog on or off lead i get far much more entitled attitude from ramblers and cyclists.
What exactly do they do? Also why 'rambler', are they not also just walkers, like you with your dog?Even as a very vocal cyclist, I die a little inside when I see someone who will inevitably be tarred with the same brush as me misbehaving. Yes it's true that people shouldn't walk on cycle lanes, but if they do they don't deserve to be near-flattened by some shouty knobhead on the latest Pinarello. Or out on bridleways and narrow lanes, cyclists failing to reduce speed when approaching a horse rider. There's no need for conflict in almost any situation. I've often slowed down for a horse rider and ended up rolling along for a minute or two having a chat. Stopping to let horses get past, or asking the rider if they're happy to see me pass is no great hardship. So yes, there very much are too many cyclists who give the rest of us a bad name.
And then we have those ramblers/walkers who behave like idiots too. There's an issue lately at a bike trail near me where an aggressive dog walker has tried to attack mountain bikers with his walking stick. What's the issue? you may ask. Surely the bikers could slow down a little? But this walker is deliberately ignoring 'No Entry' and 'No Pedestrians' signs to walk on a trail constructed and marked solely for the purpose of doing laps on mountain bikes. I've seen it at other bike parks too, ladies in pink anoraks walking two-abreast the wrong way around a red MTB trail (the fast trails for "experienced" MTBers). They apologise in that disarming way ladies of a certain age do, but it's clear what they are up to, deliberately trying to disrupt cyclists, despite literally 100s of hectares of the same forest being 'No Cycling' zones.
So we shouldn't be surprised at the "entitled attitude" of one group any more than another. There is a sense of entitlement in most people to varying degrees. And the more we separate out path users and mark up trails for one user or the other, the less we accept that we just need to rein ourselves in and just share what we have.
You can generalise about any 'out' group, but I've had lovely interactions with many other trail users in the vast majority of cases. But when one member of another user group causes you grief that really sticks in your mind and it's always those negative interactions that forum members like to post about which often paints a far more negative picture than the reality...
wastedyouth86 said:
blingybongy said:
wastedyouth86 said:
Sorry but when i am out walking my dog on or off lead i get far much more entitled attitude from ramblers and cyclists.
And just because a dog has gone for a seal does not mean it would go for a child.
Maybe not but after that would you trust it?And just because a dog has gone for a seal does not mean it would go for a child.
yellowjack said:
Hyperbole aside, he's right though.
Even as a very vocal cyclist, I die a little inside when I see someone who will inevitably be tarred with the same brush as me misbehaving. Yes it's true that people shouldn't walk on cycle lanes, but if they do they don't deserve to be near-flattened by some shouty knobhead on the latest Pinarello. Or out on bridleways and narrow lanes, cyclists failing to reduce speed when approaching a horse rider. There's no need for conflict in almost any situation. I've often slowed down for a horse rider and ended up rolling along for a minute or two having a chat. Stopping to let horses get past, or asking the rider if they're happy to see me pass is no great hardship. So yes, there very much are too many cyclists who give the rest of us a bad name.
And then we have those ramblers/walkers who behave like idiots too. There's an issue lately at a bike trail near me where an aggressive dog walker has tried to attack mountain bikers with his walking stick. What's the issue? you may ask. Surely the bikers could slow down a little? But this walker is deliberately ignoring 'No Entry' and 'No Pedestrians' signs to walk on a trail constructed and marked solely for the purpose of doing laps on mountain bikes. I've seen it at other bike parks too, ladies in pink anoraks walking two-abreast the wrong way around a red MTB trail (the fast trails for "experienced" MTBers). They apologise in that disarming way ladies of a certain age do, but it's clear what they are up to, deliberately trying to disrupt cyclists, despite literally 100s of hectares of the same forest being 'No Cycling' zones.
So we shouldn't be surprised at the "entitled attitude" of one group any more than another. There is a sense of entitlement in most people to varying degrees. And the more we separate out path users and mark up trails for one user or the other, the less we accept that we just need to rein ourselves in and just share what we have.
You can generalise about any 'out' group, but I've had lovely interactions with many other trail users in the vast majority of cases. But when one member of another user group causes you grief that really sticks in your mind and it's always those negative interactions that forum members like to post about which often paints a far more negative picture than the reality...
Good post and points. As a mtb'er on trails I too slow down, and when i see others not slowing down for walkers/ramblers/dogs i too am a bit disgraced. Especially e-bikes grr. Even as a very vocal cyclist, I die a little inside when I see someone who will inevitably be tarred with the same brush as me misbehaving. Yes it's true that people shouldn't walk on cycle lanes, but if they do they don't deserve to be near-flattened by some shouty knobhead on the latest Pinarello. Or out on bridleways and narrow lanes, cyclists failing to reduce speed when approaching a horse rider. There's no need for conflict in almost any situation. I've often slowed down for a horse rider and ended up rolling along for a minute or two having a chat. Stopping to let horses get past, or asking the rider if they're happy to see me pass is no great hardship. So yes, there very much are too many cyclists who give the rest of us a bad name.
And then we have those ramblers/walkers who behave like idiots too. There's an issue lately at a bike trail near me where an aggressive dog walker has tried to attack mountain bikers with his walking stick. What's the issue? you may ask. Surely the bikers could slow down a little? But this walker is deliberately ignoring 'No Entry' and 'No Pedestrians' signs to walk on a trail constructed and marked solely for the purpose of doing laps on mountain bikes. I've seen it at other bike parks too, ladies in pink anoraks walking two-abreast the wrong way around a red MTB trail (the fast trails for "experienced" MTBers). They apologise in that disarming way ladies of a certain age do, but it's clear what they are up to, deliberately trying to disrupt cyclists, despite literally 100s of hectares of the same forest being 'No Cycling' zones.
So we shouldn't be surprised at the "entitled attitude" of one group any more than another. There is a sense of entitlement in most people to varying degrees. And the more we separate out path users and mark up trails for one user or the other, the less we accept that we just need to rein ourselves in and just share what we have.
You can generalise about any 'out' group, but I've had lovely interactions with many other trail users in the vast majority of cases. But when one member of another user group causes you grief that really sticks in your mind and it's always those negative interactions that forum members like to post about which often paints a far more negative picture than the reality...
hyphen said:
What exactly do they do? Also why 'rambler', are they not also just walkers, like you with your dog?
A Rambler is different from someone out on a casual walk as usually they are dressed head to toe from blacks have a walking stick and hiking boots and have a certain attitude of being superior to other people out enjoying the countryside/woods. Most dog walkers i meet when out walking will 9 times out of ten say good morning as each others dogs say hello/play/smell.
I am also a cyclist and have ridden BMX/mtbs since i was 16 so would say i know the culture fairly well however seeing as cycling has had a huge up swing in popularity and the introduction of ebikes there seems to be more people around that fit the phrase 'all the gear no idea'.
Going back to Ramblers back in the day we would have a set of Dirt Jumps in local woodland not near a path in a very secluded part of the woods no one would have an issue apart from Keith and Carol dressed in their finest Rab down jackets kicking down take offs and landings because it did not fit in with their own personal idea of what should be allowed in woodlands.
Ntv said:
IMO in the U.K. we have this totally wrong
In public dogs should have to be on leads by law unless in designated areas, which should not be “all parks except the kids’ playground” , but instead should be fenced off secure exercise areas
Many/most dogs need to be off lead to properly exercise.In public dogs should have to be on leads by law unless in designated areas, which should not be “all parks except the kids’ playground” , but instead should be fenced off secure exercise areas
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