Help thin crowsfoot req

Help thin crowsfoot req

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PositronicRay

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183 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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I need a specialist tool, anyone know of a manufacturer or supplier. Its to adjust the play on a steering box. 19mm lock nut then the adjuster is a 6mm Allen key, I can cut a key down to fit

The locknut is recessed, and only about 10mm clearance so no sockets, ring spanners, open-ended spanners. Thinking of a crowsfoot type spanner with a lip but thin, made out of plate.

Any ideas of a supplier?

What I'm after is this sort of profile.



But thin with a handle, like a bicycle spanner.


InitialDave

11,901 posts

119 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Could you provide a picture? From how you describe it, I'm not following why an open spanner won't work?

Edit: you mean the locknut is recessed into the body of the steering box, as opposed to being in a 10mm wide recess?

PositronicRay

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Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Too dark for a pic, and you can't really see the adjuster anyway. It's sitting in a recess.

steveo3002

10,525 posts

174 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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grind down one to fit? laser cut one from thinner material?

PositronicRay

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Wednesday 11th December 2019
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steveo3002 said:
grind down one to fit? laser cut one from thinner material?
I may resort to this, wondering if anyone had come across such a tool.

I may get away with butchering something like this.





Edited by PositronicRay on Wednesday 11th December 16:30

InitialDave

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Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Yeah, I think you might need to just grind something down to suit.

GreenV8S

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284 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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I'm having trouble visualising what access you have. Any chance of grinding a basin wrench down to fit?

PositronicRay

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Wednesday 11th December 2019
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The steering boss is mounted on 3x10mm high bosses, so sitting 10mm proud of the chassis rail. The adjuster is recessed into the steering box a 19mm locknut with 6mm Allen screw.

Conveniently it's recessed into the side of the box mounted to the chassis rail. I can just see it with a mirror.

It's a Merc SL, no response from the UK forums, the workshop manual shows a LHD different mounting and better access.

I found a blind grommet on the inside of chassis rail, looks like an access point. No such luck, it doesn't have a corresponding point on the outside of the rail.

Looks like homemade tools are the way forward, good job it's not desperate.

GreenV8S

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Wednesday 11th December 2019
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So you have a 10mm high gap the tool has to fit in. How far will it need to reach down into the recess to engage with the nut? And how much radial gap is there around the outside of the nut?

PositronicRay

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Wednesday 11th December 2019
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GreenV8S said:
So you have a 10mm high gap the tool has to fit in. How far will it need to reach down into the recess to engage with the nut? And how much radial gap is there around the outside of the nut?
Probably 5mm deep would do it. Radial gap not sure, it's hard to see, but I imagine if the box is removed I'd be able to get swan neck or socket on it.

GreenV8S

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Wednesday 11th December 2019
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With access that tight, I suspect your idea of cutting down a box spanner and welding a handle on would be the easiest idea if you can weld - a ground off socket with a pair of flats filed on the outside would be the option if you don't have access to a welder. Either way you may need to cut a slot in the side to get access for the adjustment key.

InitialDave

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Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Would unbolting it from the chassis rail let you flex it over enough to get better access to adjust it?

It certainly sounds like a pig of a job.

Boosted LS1

21,187 posts

260 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Could you make a hole on the outside of the rail that lines up with the inner hole?

PositronicRay

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Thursday 12th December 2019
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Unbolting may work, as would drilling through the chassis, but I'd rather not.

My current plan is to cut a box spanner down, so I can slot it over the lock nut, then use a spanner on the outside flats. Or cut the spanner in such a way that Id leave a long strip of metal, bend the strip though 90 degrees to make a handle. (do you think I'd need heat to do this or would a vice, hammer, which are readily available work) I don't have a welder, but could beg a favour if need be.


PositronicRay

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Thursday 12th December 2019
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Forget my wittering, I'm looking at the wrong thing. The adjuster is at the end of the pitman arm.
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