Valentino & Lewis Swap

Valentino & Lewis Swap

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ZX10R NIN

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27,604 posts

125 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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I enjoyed watching these guys swap disciplines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NbKnXi1bZY

tight fart

2,911 posts

273 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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I spoke to Sam Lowes in the summer and asked how Lewis got on when his brother Alex took him out on the Superbike and he said Lewis did really well, I'd like to see a bit more of the day, I hope they'll be a longer video about how they both got on.

Exige77

6,518 posts

191 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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TheDeuce

21,547 posts

66 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Excuse my ignorance... I understand how Rossi can tackle an F1 car, but what is it in Lewis's background that has given him the confidence, ability and guts to throw a bike in to a track like that and set an even remotely worthwhile time?

I understand that both drivers sense for grip and reaction times are interchangeable, but on a knowledge and experience level, I'm surprised Lewis could get the job done at all.

Doink

1,652 posts

147 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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From the clips I've seen of him he's not getting his knee down, either he hasn't/can't master it or he's scared to and from what I gather this is where he is losing time and speed, on the straights he's as mad as them

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

163 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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TheDeuce said:
Excuse my ignorance... I understand how Rossi can tackle an F1 car, but what is it in Lewis's background that has given him the confidence, ability and guts to throw a bike in to a track like that and set an even remotely worthwhile time?

I understand that both drivers sense for grip and reaction times are interchangeable, but on a knowledge and experience level, I'm surprised Lewis could get the job done at all.
Shockingly ,perhaps he's a competent bike rider too......idea

TheDeuce

21,547 posts

66 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Pericoloso said:
TheDeuce said:
Excuse my ignorance... I understand how Rossi can tackle an F1 car, but what is it in Lewis's background that has given him the confidence, ability and guts to throw a bike in to a track like that and set an even remotely worthwhile time?

I understand that both drivers sense for grip and reaction times are interchangeable, but on a knowledge and experience level, I'm surprised Lewis could get the job done at all.
Shockingly ,perhaps he's a competent bike rider too......idea
I know he's 'competent', he can ride, but you can't rehearse that sort of riding without dedicated track time, which I wasn't aware he had ever had - before this swap of course - other than that one day he did last year I recall.

Maybe he's just one of those annoyingly 'good at everything' people. Other than choosing haircuts, of course.

mattikake

5,057 posts

199 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Doink said:
From the clips I've seen of him he's not getting his knee down, either he hasn't/can't master it or he's scared to and from what I gather this is where he is losing time and speed, on the straights he's as mad as them
He had his knee down several times in that vid? Tbf any decent Joe public rider can get his knee down. I'd expect lewis to do it fine. Racing on the limit however is another thing altogether.

ZX10R NIN

Original Poster:

27,604 posts

125 months

Friday 13th December 2019
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TheDeuce said:
Excuse my ignorance... I understand how Rossi can tackle an F1 car, but what is it in Lewis's background that has given him the confidence, ability and guts to throw a bike in to a track like that and set an even remotely worthwhile time?

I understand that both drivers sense for grip and reaction times are interchangeable, but on a knowledge and experience level, I'm surprised Lewis could get the job done at all.
He's a keen motorcyclist & has been for years it was one of the reasons he left Mclaren as he wasn't allowed to ride them when he was there, since then he has upped his skill levels with various track days with experienced riders hence him only being 4 seconds off of Rossi's times on the day.

Rossi being only 1.5 seconds off is less of a surprise as he has more experience in an F1 car plus the use of a simulator which helped him acclimatise to the car.



TheDeuce

21,547 posts

66 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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ZX10R NIN said:
TheDeuce said:
Excuse my ignorance... I understand how Rossi can tackle an F1 car, but what is it in Lewis's background that has given him the confidence, ability and guts to throw a bike in to a track like that and set an even remotely worthwhile time?

I understand that both drivers sense for grip and reaction times are interchangeable, but on a knowledge and experience level, I'm surprised Lewis could get the job done at all.
He's a keen motorcyclist & has been for years it was one of the reasons he left Mclaren as he wasn't allowed to ride them when he was there, since then he has upped his skill levels with various track days with experienced riders hence him only being 4 seconds off of Rossi's times on the day.

Rossi being only 1.5 seconds off is less of a surprise as he has more experience in an F1 car plus the use of a simulator which helped him acclimatise to the car.
Ahh, makes more sense thanks. I knew he was a passionate rider, didn't know he'd spent any serious time or been coached by pro's. Nonetheless, he certainly did very well given how relatively little practice opportunity he can have alongside his F1 commitments.

I can understand McLaren not accepting biking and am somewhat surprised Mercedes allow it to the extent that he can take a motoGP bike on to a timed lap! Must have been a lot of clenching going on around the sidelines..

ZX10R NIN

Original Poster:

27,604 posts

125 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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It actually works for Mercedes as they are part owners of MV Augusta:



Infact they did a limited edition LH Edition:


DanielSan

18,792 posts

167 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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ZX10R NIN said:
He's a keen motorcyclist & has been for years it was one of the reasons he left Mclaren as he wasn't allowed to ride them when he was there, since then he has upped his skill levels with various track days with experienced riders hence him only being 4 seconds off of Rossi's times on the day.

Rossi being only 1.5 seconds off is less of a surprise as he has more experience in an F1 car plus the use of a simulator which helped him acclimatise to the car.
It'd be interesting to see how far Rossi's lap was off a full blown quali lap. Can't imagine he would be at 100% balls out for something like that

ZX10R NIN

Original Poster:

27,604 posts

125 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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DanielSan said:
It'd be interesting to see how far Rossi's lap was off a full blown quali lap. Can't imagine he would be at 100% balls out for something like that
Neither posted full blown Quali laps but I'm sure both weren't holding back when they were on their own machines I'm sure they didn't hold back.

Also to give some context Lewis only being four seconds of is really good as to ride a Moto GP fast takes massive commitment levels & physically too.

Now Lewis will be amazingly fit but being bike fit requires a slightly different level of physicality.

ceesvdelst

289 posts

55 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Mv Agusta please!

ajprice

27,479 posts

196 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Rossi is pretty handy in 4 wheels https://wtf1.com/post/valentino-rossi-took-a-class...

As it says in the article, switching to GT or endurance racing does seem possible after he (probably) finishes with MotoGP after 2020.

FourWheelDrift

88,516 posts

284 months

Saturday 21st December 2019
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Bit of Lewis on board footage - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJvgTLxkGxE

BlackPrince

1,271 posts

169 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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ajprice said:
Rossi is pretty handy in 4 wheels https://wtf1.com/post/valentino-rossi-took-a-class...

As it says in the article, switching to GT or endurance racing does seem possible after he (probably) finishes with MotoGP after 2020.
Was debating with my mostly-car loving cousin about whether Rossi could contest and win Le Mans someday. I think he could, but my cousin thinks that Rossi would have to be the secondary driver to someone like Alonso in order to win.

I think F1 is too difficult to switch to and win, unless the F1 pilot in question has been doing it since they were 5 (I think it would be impossible for say, Marc Marquez to switch to F1 now, in his mid 20s, and win a WDC); however I think Le Mans is more doable. I know Le Mans is a lot more challenging than Daytona, or indeed, Abu Dhabi though, so perhaps my belief isn't rooted in reality