Price of puppies
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We've got four Goldendoodles...... one rescued, one saved from a potential bad owner, one bought as a puppy and one bred from our youngest girl.
If you want a puppy, and there's no reason on earth why you shouldn't, ignore all the rescue stuff, and just wait a bit as these prices won't stay this high for ever. We're going to have another litter at some point in the next 1yr-2yrs, depending on seasons, and I can guarantee you they won't be over £1k each as they are all going to friends and family.
Whilst there is a lot of merit in taking a rescue, you still don't know how the dog was treated with it's original owner and you still don't know if the rescue trust or shelter is telling you stuff just to move the dog on. Our rescue 'doodle has terrible allergies which is why she was moved on, we never told this and we're allowed to take her at first sight, no home check or vetting or anything, so some rescue centres are as bad as the breeders!!
If you're after a companion for an autistic child, consider a doodle. They are very intelligent dogs and my nephew who is very autistic loves his....
If you want a puppy, and there's no reason on earth why you shouldn't, ignore all the rescue stuff, and just wait a bit as these prices won't stay this high for ever. We're going to have another litter at some point in the next 1yr-2yrs, depending on seasons, and I can guarantee you they won't be over £1k each as they are all going to friends and family.
Whilst there is a lot of merit in taking a rescue, you still don't know how the dog was treated with it's original owner and you still don't know if the rescue trust or shelter is telling you stuff just to move the dog on. Our rescue 'doodle has terrible allergies which is why she was moved on, we never told this and we're allowed to take her at first sight, no home check or vetting or anything, so some rescue centres are as bad as the breeders!!
If you're after a companion for an autistic child, consider a doodle. They are very intelligent dogs and my nephew who is very autistic loves his....
Last Visit said:
We are ideally looking for something terrier or spaniel sized. Temperament and the ability for our son to be comfortable around it is the key thing.
I have visions (probably quite wrongly) of a rescue dog coming home and bounding about while my son runs off and hides.
You need to choose carefully and unemotionally. This is hard when meeting dogs.I have visions (probably quite wrongly) of a rescue dog coming home and bounding about while my son runs off and hides.
Puppies are puppies - you can meet the parents and it won't have any behavioural issues programmed in by humans, but if you're expecting a spaniel puppy not to bound about then think again. Most pups will be full of beans and all will have no idea about human rules or etiquette.
With rescue dogs, you know a bit more about what you're getting. It will have been assessed and they'll know what is good for the dog and what isn't. This means you can pick and choose a bit more but you also get surprises to a degree.
We got our boy from a rescue centre at 18 months. He was £125, needing a vaccine update.
He's got a great nature and is very loving - he just wants to be with us. But he was also mis-treated in some way at some point, so he goes spare at other dogs, cats, squirrels, anything fast-moving. We've spent another 18 months trying to train it out of him, but it's slow, hard going.
We were warned about this when we got him, but he wasn't that bad at that point and my OH had fallen in love with him.
We were also told (correctly) that it takes 12-24 months for a dog to fully settle in with you in your home.
TLDR - potential problems with pups and rescues. Be the objective, unemotional one who chooses based on your circumstances rather than the puppy-dog take-me-home eyes.
Some helpful stuff, thanks all. Certainly some food for thought both in terms of what a rescue dog could offer (as well as the fact I like the idea of giving an unwanted dog a loving home) and pricing of puppies generally.
Although I mentioned cockerpoos in my OP, we aren't that set on a 'designer dog', as a child we had a cocker spaniel and I'd love another one but equally these seem to be priced high currently.
Although I mentioned cockerpoos in my OP, we aren't that set on a 'designer dog', as a child we had a cocker spaniel and I'd love another one but equally these seem to be priced high currently.
Last Visit said:
This reason has slightly put us off a shelter dog, in that it would probably be older and we worry that the dog might have behavioural issues and not make a great pet or be good with him as he takes a while to trust any animal (some friends have dogs). Happy to be re-educated on this of course, I'm no expert.
You get all sorts in a dog shelter 
. We've got some dogs that we know the full history of - owners handing them to us for whatever reason. They're also not all necessarily old or with behaviour issues. Though some certainly will be. A good rescue place will be able to have an honest discussion with you about what they've got in stock and if any of them fit your needs. If not thats cool, move onto the next one. You could tell some shelters near you you wanted a puppy for example, and they'll hold your contact info and let you know if any come up. They're going to be far more of a blank slate re behaviour etc if they've been found in a bin at 10 weeks old.
Some of the older dogs we've got would make easier pets. But if its for a kid its a difficult balance... would you want to take a dog that you know is going to die in the next 5 years? I'm not sure I would if I had a kid that was 5,6,7. I'd take those ones myself but its a bit harder if you know you're going to put your kid through some upset when the inevitable happens.
You could also avoid rescue places entirely and join all the local dog rescue FB groups you can find. Often people will post in them when they need rid of a dog / puppy for whatever reason. But a bit like buying a car from a private sale rather than a main dealer... don't expect any warranty if it goes wrong. If you're 100% certain that a dog would fit in though there's no harm in going down this route.
I’m picking up a puppy very soon . My reasons for a puppy over an older rescue were many and varied but I wanted a specific breed of dog ( Dandie Dinmont) and I’v waited a while to get one. I’v had rescues before without issue but this time I decided against it purely because I wanted this one just for me.
Dandies are a ‘vulnerable’ breed so you won’t see them advertised really anywhere outwith the kennel club find a puppy facility. I joined the breed groups and have been in contact with breeders since last year. Because they’re not a common breed I had no idea how much they would cost but was surprised to find they cost between 1k - 1.3k. Still a load of money but I did see some Scottish terriers advertised on pets for homes the other day at 2.2k and they weren’t kennel club registered. Anyway good luck with your search Whatever you decide .
Dandies are a ‘vulnerable’ breed so you won’t see them advertised really anywhere outwith the kennel club find a puppy facility. I joined the breed groups and have been in contact with breeders since last year. Because they’re not a common breed I had no idea how much they would cost but was surprised to find they cost between 1k - 1.3k. Still a load of money but I did see some Scottish terriers advertised on pets for homes the other day at 2.2k and they weren’t kennel club registered. Anyway good luck with your search Whatever you decide .
Nothing wrong with crossbreeds, which is all a 'designer dog' is as long as they are healthy animals and bread responsibly.
I only have first hand experience of rescues, but also know several people who have had puppies which I have watched grow up with blow-by-blow accounts including my partners mum, and for me it is a no brainer for us, but I also fully respect those who differ.
-A puppy will chew, and poo and wee all over the place, and most people are not as good a training them as they think, including those from a rescue center, but obviously should make a very nice god if you don't cock it up too much or get an unhealthy dog.
-A rescue can be had at any age, obviously a puppy will be in effect as per any other puppy, certainly if it was born in the centre and looked after well (often dogs are abandoned when they become pregnant*) but you can also have an older dog which can fit in when with some situations. *my uncle had a lurcher rescue pup from a racing greyhound that found a collie who had is way, lovely dog.
Our first dog was 6 when we got him 4 years ago, and pet rescued directly from his original family. We both worked, and felt a slightly older dog, as well as a lurcher type breed, would fit well with us. He as been absolutely amazing from day one, full home check, plus we visited him in is previous home and met his current owners/carers. It was obvious he had not been overly socialised with other dogs, and he remains a little bit socially awkward in his play, but he is super gentle with people and children as well and older and younger dogs, has never chewed or toileted anything, even the way he sits/stands is like a perfect gentleman. He can be slightly anxious with other intact male dogs when on lead, and has rolled the odd cockapoo over, but lots of dogs are slightly anxious on lead and he has never hurt a fly. We gave a £100 'donation' to the centre who arranged it and paid for his microchip, but as condition of the rescue got £100 off the previous owners to cover the cost of him being neutered. The dog bed cost £70! Because we work, we have a dog walker come mid day mon-friday and take him out for an hour or more at £10/day, on top of a 20-30 min walk every morning, 30-60min every, often hours over the weekend. Plus all the fuss any dog could want. He does tricks like 'roll over' 'peekaboo' as well as the usual, anything to stimulate his collie side/
Our second dog we got a week and a hour ago, we were interested in a younger dog and maybe a golden retriever bi tch, but ended up with a 1yo romanian rescue dog, a golden coloured cross breed about the size of a collie. Someone had cheekily shared his advert to a goldens rescue fb page (well, he is golden...) and the more we found about about him the more we knew it was a match. One of the volunteers has watched him as a street-puppy on feb wait outside the local school to play with the children, arranged for him to be taken in before anything bad happened to him, we have a photo of him taken as a very young dog in the snow on the streets. Coronavirus put a haul on all transports, and he had been the star of the shelter, can't get enough or people, roller over and rub my belly! 10 days in he has settled amazingly, from never being in a house or having a name or collar he has never toileted in the house, in fact wee's on the compost heap with our other dog to save the lawn, we where doing walks with 24h and now take him off lead on the beach twice daily, recall is excellent, sit, stay, lie down, and so far the only thing he has chewed is a used sandwich tupperware left on the floor after work for which I cant fault him. Chilled with the hoover and lawn mower, cars, etc. Being one he is full of beans, has taken over all spare time, but also dropped right in to routine and life with our other dog. He wants to be with us all the time, cries for a couple of minutes when my partner goes to work (She's a doctor) but then settles at my feet as I work from. He has also learn how to open doors, not stupid this one! Dog walker started taking him and the other dog monday for an hour mid day to get used to that routine.
Parents also had a street dog when I was about 12 this time from the UK, still had her puppy teeth so did chew a bit, but she was also an amazing dog, would come on bike rides with us as kids, follow us everywhere. Some airedale in her, likely a touch of greyhound, but heinz 57! She obviously got used being her own boss and would occasionally take off out of the garden if you left the gate not quite shut and would be gone an hour or two, but recall was as good as any bar maybe a lab if you have food, and she would keep up with my uncles lurcher.
Partners mams dog, a large lab boy now 2, has turned into a cracking boy, really nice lad, gets on well with their collie too now, super eager to please as any lab is, but fortunately also kept active and eating the right amount so isnt fat like 90% of labs out their, in fact he is so lean and people are so used to labs being fat people ask what breed he is! That said, he has claimed his fair share of furniture, several chairs and most of the corners of the kitchen units have been ruined in no short order, and if you think our romanian street hound is keen for food get your fingers back for this chap!
TLDR: dogs are ace, a well picked rescue will be less hassle than a puppy, and both lurchers and crossbreed make awesome pets, very few breeds are stupid.
Our Lurcher aged 6, when he arrived with his sole possession, a tatty blanket!
Two dogs together, shortly after the new boy arrived.
Romanian hound on his first outing with our excellent the dog walker.
Romanian street puppy, taken by the center volunteer in Feb
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Daniel
I only have first hand experience of rescues, but also know several people who have had puppies which I have watched grow up with blow-by-blow accounts including my partners mum, and for me it is a no brainer for us, but I also fully respect those who differ.
-A puppy will chew, and poo and wee all over the place, and most people are not as good a training them as they think, including those from a rescue center, but obviously should make a very nice god if you don't cock it up too much or get an unhealthy dog.
-A rescue can be had at any age, obviously a puppy will be in effect as per any other puppy, certainly if it was born in the centre and looked after well (often dogs are abandoned when they become pregnant*) but you can also have an older dog which can fit in when with some situations. *my uncle had a lurcher rescue pup from a racing greyhound that found a collie who had is way, lovely dog.
Our first dog was 6 when we got him 4 years ago, and pet rescued directly from his original family. We both worked, and felt a slightly older dog, as well as a lurcher type breed, would fit well with us. He as been absolutely amazing from day one, full home check, plus we visited him in is previous home and met his current owners/carers. It was obvious he had not been overly socialised with other dogs, and he remains a little bit socially awkward in his play, but he is super gentle with people and children as well and older and younger dogs, has never chewed or toileted anything, even the way he sits/stands is like a perfect gentleman. He can be slightly anxious with other intact male dogs when on lead, and has rolled the odd cockapoo over, but lots of dogs are slightly anxious on lead and he has never hurt a fly. We gave a £100 'donation' to the centre who arranged it and paid for his microchip, but as condition of the rescue got £100 off the previous owners to cover the cost of him being neutered. The dog bed cost £70! Because we work, we have a dog walker come mid day mon-friday and take him out for an hour or more at £10/day, on top of a 20-30 min walk every morning, 30-60min every, often hours over the weekend. Plus all the fuss any dog could want. He does tricks like 'roll over' 'peekaboo' as well as the usual, anything to stimulate his collie side/
Our second dog we got a week and a hour ago, we were interested in a younger dog and maybe a golden retriever bi tch, but ended up with a 1yo romanian rescue dog, a golden coloured cross breed about the size of a collie. Someone had cheekily shared his advert to a goldens rescue fb page (well, he is golden...) and the more we found about about him the more we knew it was a match. One of the volunteers has watched him as a street-puppy on feb wait outside the local school to play with the children, arranged for him to be taken in before anything bad happened to him, we have a photo of him taken as a very young dog in the snow on the streets. Coronavirus put a haul on all transports, and he had been the star of the shelter, can't get enough or people, roller over and rub my belly! 10 days in he has settled amazingly, from never being in a house or having a name or collar he has never toileted in the house, in fact wee's on the compost heap with our other dog to save the lawn, we where doing walks with 24h and now take him off lead on the beach twice daily, recall is excellent, sit, stay, lie down, and so far the only thing he has chewed is a used sandwich tupperware left on the floor after work for which I cant fault him. Chilled with the hoover and lawn mower, cars, etc. Being one he is full of beans, has taken over all spare time, but also dropped right in to routine and life with our other dog. He wants to be with us all the time, cries for a couple of minutes when my partner goes to work (She's a doctor) but then settles at my feet as I work from. He has also learn how to open doors, not stupid this one! Dog walker started taking him and the other dog monday for an hour mid day to get used to that routine.
Parents also had a street dog when I was about 12 this time from the UK, still had her puppy teeth so did chew a bit, but she was also an amazing dog, would come on bike rides with us as kids, follow us everywhere. Some airedale in her, likely a touch of greyhound, but heinz 57! She obviously got used being her own boss and would occasionally take off out of the garden if you left the gate not quite shut and would be gone an hour or two, but recall was as good as any bar maybe a lab if you have food, and she would keep up with my uncles lurcher.
Partners mams dog, a large lab boy now 2, has turned into a cracking boy, really nice lad, gets on well with their collie too now, super eager to please as any lab is, but fortunately also kept active and eating the right amount so isnt fat like 90% of labs out their, in fact he is so lean and people are so used to labs being fat people ask what breed he is! That said, he has claimed his fair share of furniture, several chairs and most of the corners of the kitchen units have been ruined in no short order, and if you think our romanian street hound is keen for food get your fingers back for this chap!
TLDR: dogs are ace, a well picked rescue will be less hassle than a puppy, and both lurchers and crossbreed make awesome pets, very few breeds are stupid.
Our Lurcher aged 6, when he arrived with his sole possession, a tatty blanket!
Two dogs together, shortly after the new boy arrived.
Romanian hound on his first outing with our excellent the dog walker.
Romanian street puppy, taken by the center volunteer in Feb
. Daniel
Lovely dogs.
I or rather "we" are one of the mugs helping fuel the rise in puppy prices. We just collected a 12 week old Golden Retriever pup on Sunday. She was KC registered pedigree from a breeder. GR prices are quite frankly insane right now, but its a sellers market. I had suggested a rescue dog, but its quite difficult when you have young kids at home as there is often a preference for rescue dogs to go to families without young kids. I also suggested a Collie, but thats by the by.
If you can or fit a recsue dog, its the right thing to do - but its not for everyone. One of the reason we went for a puppy was my daughter has wanted a dog, but has a fear of them from an early age when some s
t let a wild staff of the lead at a park when she was 3 and it went bezerk around her and cousins. We wanted her to loose some of the fear, but also release some of the responsibility around dog ownership (the incident with the Staff was not the dogs fault but the poor owner). A greyhound/lurcher type may have been an ideal temperament for her, but you can't tell a 10 year old these things.
The other reason to get a puppy was due to Corona there will always be someone at home now, I will not be going back into full time work and the wife is only 3 days a week. It was a timing fit.
I fully expect, and already know that she will be hard work - but its also a great way to teach kids responsibility for a young dog (and training).
I don't think there is a right or wrong answer only what fits your circumstances plus a healthy dose of self honesty.
Strangely, we were looking for a while and were only offered our pup as someone else had reserved her but couldn't raise the cash. The breeder kept her for another 4 weeks to give them time, but they couldn't do it. On the day she offered her to us, we were offered another dog for a lot less but was not KC registered. Being able to check the parents hip scores and meet them was important to us - but accept its not a guarantee either way.
Its a real shame that Corona caused the likes of Battersea to close down as dogs need a home, but you have to play the hand you are dealt.
And since we are only days into ownership, the above should be taken with a pinch of salt - but there are many factors that must go into dog ownership. I don't think everyone's situation is comparable.
I or rather "we" are one of the mugs helping fuel the rise in puppy prices. We just collected a 12 week old Golden Retriever pup on Sunday. She was KC registered pedigree from a breeder. GR prices are quite frankly insane right now, but its a sellers market. I had suggested a rescue dog, but its quite difficult when you have young kids at home as there is often a preference for rescue dogs to go to families without young kids. I also suggested a Collie, but thats by the by.
If you can or fit a recsue dog, its the right thing to do - but its not for everyone. One of the reason we went for a puppy was my daughter has wanted a dog, but has a fear of them from an early age when some s
t let a wild staff of the lead at a park when she was 3 and it went bezerk around her and cousins. We wanted her to loose some of the fear, but also release some of the responsibility around dog ownership (the incident with the Staff was not the dogs fault but the poor owner). A greyhound/lurcher type may have been an ideal temperament for her, but you can't tell a 10 year old these things.The other reason to get a puppy was due to Corona there will always be someone at home now, I will not be going back into full time work and the wife is only 3 days a week. It was a timing fit.
I fully expect, and already know that she will be hard work - but its also a great way to teach kids responsibility for a young dog (and training).
I don't think there is a right or wrong answer only what fits your circumstances plus a healthy dose of self honesty.
Strangely, we were looking for a while and were only offered our pup as someone else had reserved her but couldn't raise the cash. The breeder kept her for another 4 weeks to give them time, but they couldn't do it. On the day she offered her to us, we were offered another dog for a lot less but was not KC registered. Being able to check the parents hip scores and meet them was important to us - but accept its not a guarantee either way.
Its a real shame that Corona caused the likes of Battersea to close down as dogs need a home, but you have to play the hand you are dealt.
And since we are only days into ownership, the above should be taken with a pinch of salt - but there are many factors that must go into dog ownership. I don't think everyone's situation is comparable.
super7 said:
We've got four Goldendoodles...... one rescued, one saved from a potential bad owner, one bought as a puppy and one bred from our youngest girl.
If you want a puppy, and there's no reason on earth why you shouldn't, ignore all the rescue stuff, and just wait a bit as these prices won't stay this high for ever. We're going to have another litter at some point in the next 1yr-2yrs, depending on seasons, and I can guarantee you they won't be over £1k each as they are all going to friends and family.
Whilst there is a lot of merit in taking a rescue, you still don't know how the dog was treated with it's original owner and you still don't know if the rescue trust or shelter is telling you stuff just to move the dog on. Our rescue 'doodle has terrible allergies which is why she was moved on, we never told this and we're allowed to take her at first sight, no home check or vetting or anything, so some rescue centres are as bad as the breeders!!
If you're after a companion for an autistic child, consider a doodle. They are very intelligent dogs and my nephew who is very autistic loves his....
God help !If you want a puppy, and there's no reason on earth why you shouldn't, ignore all the rescue stuff, and just wait a bit as these prices won't stay this high for ever. We're going to have another litter at some point in the next 1yr-2yrs, depending on seasons, and I can guarantee you they won't be over £1k each as they are all going to friends and family.
Whilst there is a lot of merit in taking a rescue, you still don't know how the dog was treated with it's original owner and you still don't know if the rescue trust or shelter is telling you stuff just to move the dog on. Our rescue 'doodle has terrible allergies which is why she was moved on, we never told this and we're allowed to take her at first sight, no home check or vetting or anything, so some rescue centres are as bad as the breeders!!
If you're after a companion for an autistic child, consider a doodle. They are very intelligent dogs and my nephew who is very autistic loves his....
Marniet said:
I’m picking up a puppy very soon . My reasons for a puppy over an older rescue were many and varied but I wanted a specific breed of dog ( Dandie Dinmont) and I’v waited a while to get one. I’v had rescues before without issue but this time I decided against it purely because I wanted this one just for me.
Dandies are a ‘vulnerable’ breed so you won’t see them advertised really anywhere outwith the kennel club find a puppy facility. I joined the breed groups and have been in contact with breeders since last year. Because they’re not a common breed I had no idea how much they would cost but was surprised to find they cost between 1k - 1.3k. Still a load of money but I did see some Scottish terriers advertised on pets for homes the other day at 2.2k and they weren’t kennel club registered. Anyway good luck with your search Whatever you decide .
Dandie Dinmont - great dogs and full of character -love them! . Be different and enjoy him . All terriers are their own people -not for all homes- and you can't train the terrier out of them but marvellous dogs. Photos pleaseDandies are a ‘vulnerable’ breed so you won’t see them advertised really anywhere outwith the kennel club find a puppy facility. I joined the breed groups and have been in contact with breeders since last year. Because they’re not a common breed I had no idea how much they would cost but was surprised to find they cost between 1k - 1.3k. Still a load of money but I did see some Scottish terriers advertised on pets for homes the other day at 2.2k and they weren’t kennel club registered. Anyway good luck with your search Whatever you decide .
Muzzer79 said:
You need to choose carefully and unemotionally. This is hard when meeting dogs.
Puppies are puppies - you can meet the parents and it won't have any behavioural issues programmed in by humans, but if you're expecting a spaniel puppy not to bound about then think again. Most pups will be full of beans and all will have no idea about human rules or etiquette.
With rescue dogs, you know a bit more about what you're getting. It will have been assessed and they'll know what is good for the dog and what isn't. This means you can pick and choose a bit more but you also get surprises to a degree.
We got our boy from a rescue centre at 18 months. He was £125, needing a vaccine update.
He's got a great nature and is very loving - he just wants to be with us. But he was also mis-treated in some way at some point, so he goes spare at other dogs, cats, squirrels, anything fast-moving. We've spent another 18 months trying to train it out of him, but it's slow, hard going.
We were warned about this when we got him, but he wasn't that bad at that point and my OH had fallen in love with him.
We were also told (correctly) that it takes 12-24 months for a dog to fully settle in with you in your home.
TLDR - potential problems with pups and rescues. Be the objective, unemotional one who chooses based on your circumstances rather than the puppy-dog take-me-home eyes.
I think this is very sound advice . Puppies are puppies - you can meet the parents and it won't have any behavioural issues programmed in by humans, but if you're expecting a spaniel puppy not to bound about then think again. Most pups will be full of beans and all will have no idea about human rules or etiquette.
With rescue dogs, you know a bit more about what you're getting. It will have been assessed and they'll know what is good for the dog and what isn't. This means you can pick and choose a bit more but you also get surprises to a degree.
We got our boy from a rescue centre at 18 months. He was £125, needing a vaccine update.
He's got a great nature and is very loving - he just wants to be with us. But he was also mis-treated in some way at some point, so he goes spare at other dogs, cats, squirrels, anything fast-moving. We've spent another 18 months trying to train it out of him, but it's slow, hard going.
We were warned about this when we got him, but he wasn't that bad at that point and my OH had fallen in love with him.
We were also told (correctly) that it takes 12-24 months for a dog to fully settle in with you in your home.
TLDR - potential problems with pups and rescues. Be the objective, unemotional one who chooses based on your circumstances rather than the puppy-dog take-me-home eyes.
What cross/breed do you think he is?
With reference to some of the prices online I 'm afraid this is a bandwagon well populated. Many decent breeders have postponed litters 1 because they couldn't take the female to be mated , 2 they were unsure of the state the country would be in and 3 as dog shows are cancelled for the forseeable future wouldn't want pups to show ( you want to start them at 6 months not when a year old ). This has reduced supply at the same time as people have thought about a dog
If you speak to breed club secretaries where KC registered pups are concerned they may know of planned litters and not all breeders would be so mercenary as ones online and 'designer' mongrel breeders . Rescue centres have suffered from having all the overheads but little of the fundraising so are having a very difficult time .
If you speak to breed club secretaries where KC registered pups are concerned they may know of planned litters and not all breeders would be so mercenary as ones online and 'designer' mongrel breeders . Rescue centres have suffered from having all the overheads but little of the fundraising so are having a very difficult time .
Edited by spanner10 on Thursday 2nd July 17:25
spanner10 said:
With reference to some of the prices online I 'm afraid this is a bandwagon well populated. Many decent breeders have postponed litters 1 because they couldn't take the female to be mated , 2 they were unsure of the state the country would be in and 3 as dog shows are cancelled for the forseeable future wouldn't want pups to show ( you want to start them at 6 months not when a year old ). This has reduced supply at the same time as people have thought about a dog
If you speak to breed club secretaries where KC registered pups are concerned they may know of planned litters and not all breeders would be so mercenary as ones online and 'designer' mongrel breeders . Rescue centres have suffered from having all the overheads but little of the fundraising so are having a very difficult time .
I think your dead on with this . One other factor was breeders worrying about catching Covid or the buyers catching it. At one point I’d been looking at Skye terriers as well as dandies and was pretty much told by all the breeders / breed club co ordinators that there would be no breedings of Skyes this year. If you speak to breed club secretaries where KC registered pups are concerned they may know of planned litters and not all breeders would be so mercenary as ones online and 'designer' mongrel breeders . Rescue centres have suffered from having all the overheads but little of the fundraising so are having a very difficult time .
Edited by spanner10 on Thursday 2nd July 17:25
spanner10 said:
With reference to some of the prices online I 'm afraid this is a bandwagon well populated. Many decent breeders have postponed litters 1 because they couldn't take the female to be mated , 2 they were unsure of the state the country would be in and 3 as dog shows are cancelled for the forseeable future wouldn't want pups to show ( you want to start them at 6 months not when a year old ). This has reduced supply at the same time as people have thought about a dog
If you speak to breed club secretaries where KC registered pups are concerned they may know of planned litters and not all breeders would be so mercenary as ones online and 'designer' mongrel breeders . Rescue centres have suffered from having all the overheads but little of the fundraising so are having a very difficult time .
Correct in our experience. We have spoken to our breeders recently, and they are having half the number of pups this year .... but the price is unchanged, and less than a grand! Their worry was what would happen in lockdown and whether people would be able to come and take the pups away.If you speak to breed club secretaries where KC registered pups are concerned they may know of planned litters and not all breeders would be so mercenary as ones online and 'designer' mongrel breeders . Rescue centres have suffered from having all the overheads but little of the fundraising so are having a very difficult time .
Edited by spanner10 on Thursday 2nd July 17:25
We got our King Charles Cavalier pup just before lock down, complete coincidence at the time lock down hadn't been mentioned. We paid sensible money for a kc registered, vet inspected, chipped etc from a mid level breeder (not a bad puppy farm, but equally not a top rated pro breeder.)
Since then, the same spec/model, are somewhere between 3 to 4 times the price, and rare as hens teeth. At the time we had a choice of 50 or so to choose from within a couple hours drive. Now there's a handful nationwide.
Lockdown timing kicked in perfect for us, whole family being mostly home based during the puppy running in period, but feel it for the OP and other genuine buyers on the lookout.
Since then, the same spec/model, are somewhere between 3 to 4 times the price, and rare as hens teeth. At the time we had a choice of 50 or so to choose from within a couple hours drive. Now there's a handful nationwide.
Lockdown timing kicked in perfect for us, whole family being mostly home based during the puppy running in period, but feel it for the OP and other genuine buyers on the lookout.
Norgles said:
You can get some amazing and young dogs from Shelters. As I said before we got this little idiot when she was 1. I have never met a more loving and sweet tempered dog.
I tend to go for the mare mature dogs (circa 4).
This one is 7 , but looks /acts like a three old.
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