Price of puppies

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[quote=GT03ROB]

If you are struggling in the UK take a look at some of the overseas places. Look at this thread

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

One of our neighbors adopted a dog from Romania. 3 years on it is still nervous of any other dogs or most men and can't be let off the lead.

While not opposed to rescues, when we were last dog hunting our local rescues were mostly Staffie crosses and older dogs.

While no expert I have read that it is very hard to completely reverse the effects of poor puppy socialisation in the first 4 months of life.

While it may sound callous a dog is for life. I prefer to get a puppy or young dog so we can enjoy the first active healthy years before the last few years of decline and poorer health.

Prices? Wow! We bought our second poodle last year for £1000. A friend is looking for a pup just now. None out there and £2500 upwards.

[Brads67]

I would say that most dogs can be properly socialised regardless of what age you get them (up to a point I suppose, but that would be old cantankerous miseries lol)

Regards getting a rescue dog from abroad, now I am not getting into any argument about it and am not looking to upset the few, but I think this is wrong.
Let Romania deal with it's excess dogs and rescue a dog that is an issue in the UK.

Why is it ok to get a dog abroad and have the equivalent dog in the UK put down?.

I understand personal choice but that's just my opinion.

[GT03ROB]

Brads67 said:

I would say that most dogs can be properly socialised regardless of what age you get them (up to a point I suppose, but that would be old cantankerous miseries lol)

Regards getting a rescue dog from abroad, now I am not getting into any argument about it and am not looking to upset the few, but I think this is wrong.
Let Romania deal with it's excess dogs and rescue a dog that is an issue in the UK.

Why is it ok to get a dog abroad and have the equivalent dog in the UK put down?.

I understand personal choice but that's just my opinion.

On the first point I tend to agree with you. The second is more difficult. In looking to adopt recently it became next to impossible to do from the UK, if you read some of the people who have tried you'll see some of the reasons people have given. My wife therefore made a few enquiries with UK based charities rescuing from overseas & found a much more positive attitude towards the process.

[gl20]

Hi all,

Many thanks for all the replies / guidance re. other rescue centre options. Will keep at it.

[seanyfez]

The missus has started the search for another Labrador - our two old girls died fairly recently and the hole in our lives is huge.

We want another Lab, we know them and trust them with cats, kids etc and we are happy to go through the puppy training again!

So, two weeks in we have found that Labrador puppies are now £1800 - £3000 each - we paid £650 14 years ago for our last girl!

Lot’s of hunting around eventually turned up puppies, from 2x homes rather than farms, at £700 - seemed a bit low to me but my wife pursued it. So she spends all morning contacting the two owners, answering animal welfare questions by email and generally jumping through hoops, making both owners seem kosher.

Finally, decided to go through with the first, which was advertised in London and then turned out to be in Belfast, so dropped it with no further comms.

Followed up the second which was advertised in Bromsgrove, which then turned out to be the Isle of Man!! They offered to use a puppy courier to get the puppy to us...!

I’ m sorry to say I kind of knew where this was going when my wife told me the prices, but she was keen to follow up. I’m sure they sell plenty of dogs to people who want the latest fashion and don’t concern themselves with visiting.

Also, agreeing with other posts here, we have noticed a number of older dogs being sold rather than simply re-homed. It’s tempting but in no way feels right.

We are signed up to RNIB and various rescue centres, this I think is a much better route.

[ChocolateFrog]

Superleg48 said:

1. A re-homed rescue will love like no other.

Or could attack you or your child requiring life saving surgery, causing permanent significant scarring and causing the loss or pints of blood.

Ask me how I know.

There's always 2 sides and having seen a hand sized skin flap hanging off the back of my sisters head I'd never recommend to anyone, especially someone with children to get a rescue dog.

[Dont like rolls]

ChocolateFrog said:

Superleg48 said:

1. A re-homed rescue will love like no other.

Or could attack you or your child requiring life saving surgery, causing permanent significant scarring and causing the loss or pints of blood.

Ask me how I know.

There's always 2 sides and having seen a hand sized skin flap hanging off the back of my sisters head I'd never recommend to anyone, especially someone with children to get an (EDIT) INAPPROPRIATE rescue dog.

[Macroni18]

Dont like rolls said:

ChocolateFrog said:

Superleg48 said:

1. A re-homed rescue will love like no other.

Or could attack you or your child requiring life saving surgery, causing permanent significant scarring and causing the loss or pints of blood.

Ask me how I know.

There's always 2 sides and having seen a hand sized skin flap hanging off the back of my sisters head I'd never recommend to anyone, especially someone with children to get an (EDIT) INAPPROPRIATE rescue dog.

The question is how can one predict this? How do we know it was an inappropriate dog without the benefit of hindsight?

[Superleg48]

Macroni18 said:

Dont like rolls said:

ChocolateFrog said:

Superleg48 said:

1. A re-homed rescue will love like no other.

Or could attack you or your child requiring life saving surgery, causing permanent significant scarring and causing the loss or pints of blood.

Ask me how I know.

There's always 2 sides and having seen a hand sized skin flap hanging off the back of my sisters head I'd never recommend to anyone, especially someone with children to get an (EDIT) INAPPROPRIATE rescue dog.

The question is how can one predict this? How do we know it was an inappropriate dog without the benefit of hindsight?

An unpleasant experience indeed. Thankfully very rare and so I would be reticent to tar all rescue dogs with the same brush.

[Algarve]

Macroni18 said:

The question is how can one predict this? How do we know it was an inappropriate dog without the benefit of hindsight?

Better due diligence might have helped? Or maybe you just got really, really, unlucky.

Some dogs in our shelter we've no idea on the history of them before they arrived here. Some of them have been here days, some months, some years. Some of them we know lived in a home till their owner died or emigrated. Some of them were found as 4 week old puppies.

At the end of the day they're live animals and you can never be 100% sure but I'd research the shelter first then speak to them about which dog is best for them. If they don't have one suitable they'll (hopefully) tell you that rather than give you one which isn't.

[Macroni18]

Superleg48 said:

Macroni18 said:

Dont like rolls said:

ChocolateFrog said:

Superleg48 said:

1. A re-homed rescue will love like no other.

Or could attack you or your child requiring life saving surgery, causing permanent significant scarring and causing the loss or pints of blood.

Ask me how I know.

There's always 2 sides and having seen a hand sized skin flap hanging off the back of my sisters head I'd never recommend to anyone, especially someone with children to get an (EDIT) INAPPROPRIATE rescue dog.

The question is how can one predict this? How do we know it was an inappropriate dog without the benefit of hindsight?

An unpleasant experience indeed. Thankfully very rare and so I would be reticent to tar all rescue dogs with the same brush.

Not my intention either. It was a geniune question. We are also planning to get a dog, first time buyers, not sure which route to take - puppy or rescue dogs.

[Macroni18]

Algarve said:

Macroni18 said:

The question is how can one predict this? How do we know it was an inappropriate dog without the benefit of hindsight?

Better due diligence might have helped? Or maybe you just got really, really, unlucky.

Some dogs in our shelter we've no idea on the history of them before they arrived here. Some of them have been here days, some months, some years. Some of them we know lived in a home till their owner died or emigrated. Some of them were found as 4 week old puppies.

At the end of the day they're live animals and you can never be 100% sure but I'd research the shelter first then speak to them about which dog is best for them. If they don't have one suitable they'll (hopefully) tell you that rather than give you one which isn't.

Yes, sounds sensible.

[gl20]

Well, the rescue option came good eventually. After telling the wife to pause on this for 6 months so as not to get frustrated, we got a call yesterday.

Meet Sam the trailhound. Back home now and practicing the Aga sleep for when winter comes.

Thanks again for the replies last week.

[moorx]

gl20 said:

Well, the rescue option came good eventually. After telling the wife to pause on this for 6 months so as not to get frustrated, we got a call yesterday.

Meet Sam the trailhound. Back home now and practicing the Aga sleep for when winter comes.

Thanks again for the replies last week.

Oh that's brilliant. Please keep us updated, trailhounds are a breed which I have considered previously, after meeting a couple years ago. I'd forgotten about them until you posted. Sam looks gorgeous

[Mezzanine]

gl20 said:

Well, the rescue option came good eventually. After telling the wife to pause on this for 6 months so as not to get frustrated, we got a call yesterday.

Meet Sam the trailhound. Back home now and practicing the Aga sleep for when winter comes.

Thanks again for the replies last week.

Fantastic news, lovely looking dog.

May I ask which rescue centre you used?

[moorx]

Mezzanine said:

Fantastic news, lovely looking dog.

May I ask which rescue centre you used?

Dog's Trust based on the collar/tag - I know they take in Trailhounds for rehoming.

[gl20]

moorx said:

Mezzanine said:

Fantastic news, lovely looking dog.

May I ask which rescue centre you used?

Dog's Trust based on the collar/tag - I know they take in Trailhounds for rehoming.

Yes, that’s it. The Canterbury centre although we live on the Essex/Suffolk border.

A lot of panting today but hopefully he’ll feel more settled soon. Seems reasonably well house trained though which is a relief.

[moorx]

gl20 said:

A lot of panting today but hopefully he’ll feel more settled soon.

Yes, that's to be expected. Did they say whether he'd lived in a home before, or was he kenneled? I know greyhounds can find a house a bit warm after racing kennels. Either way, it's a change in environment which is bound to be stressful. Once he gets into a routine he should feel better.

[garythesign]

Sam looks lovely.

I had never heard of trail hounds but just googled them.

Every day is a learning day

[gl20]

moorx said:

gl20 said:

A lot of panting today but hopefully he’ll feel more settled soon.

Yes, that's to be expected. Did they say whether he'd lived in a home before, or was he kenneled? I know greyhounds can find a house a bit warm after racing kennels. Either way, it's a change in environment which is bound to be stressful. Once he gets into a routine he should feel better.

There wasn’t certainty on whether he’d been in house or kennel bit the good news is he seems house trained. No accidents and had walked to the back door a couple of times.

Quite a bit more relaxed now and slept through the night. Also walks to heel quite well round the garden. The only thing we will need to train out is he’s jumping up a lot at the moment. Friendly with it, but he’s about 30kg.