Wildflower seed help

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Wish

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I’ve got a section of my garden that I want to change to a bee friendly, wildlife friendly.
Ideally I want to buy wildflower seed and spread it over the area.

Has anyone got advise on the best seed to use, that won’t break the bank.
Also have I missed the ideal time to seed this year ?

Any advise would be great.


How u doing

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Friday 4th June 2021
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If you just leave it alone, stuff that likes the area will just move in and happen.

Wish

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It’s just a mud section at the moment.

How u doing

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Wish said:
It’s just a mud section at the moment.
This time next yr rodders, this time next year.

Simpo Two

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How u doing said:
If you just leave it alone, stuff that likes the area will just move in and happen.
A real wildflower meadow is quite an ecological triumph. Yer average patch of wasteland is more likely to end up as nettles then brambles...

How u doing

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Simpo Two said:
How u doing said:
If you just leave it alone, stuff that likes the area will just move in and happen.
A real wildflower meadow is quite an ecological triumph. Yer average patch of wasteland is more likely to end up as nettles then brambles...
As he said, wild life and bee friendly.

ATG

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272 months

Friday 4th June 2021
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Ask your local wildlife trust. They may be able to give you some seed and they should be able to give you some advice.

Buying a mix of seeds will produce a load of flowers, and that in itself is very likely to help pollinators, but it won't be natural and you'll almost certainly get something different coming out of the ground on year two.

If you wanted to create something like a "natural" meadow, which stretches "natural" somewhat as they're the product of animal grazing, you'd want to find out what type of soil you've got, what mix of wild plants grow locally on the same type of soil and then work from there.

shouldbworking

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212 months

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We did an area about half a tennis court in size. Cost about £20 in seed. Mix the seed first, we didn't and its very evident where each box of seed ended and the next began.

Now isn't the time to sow, needs to be later in the year near September / October. It's a slow burn so be patient with it.

55palfers

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164 months

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Make sure the mix is of native British wild flowers though.

Wish

Original Poster:

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Checking out wildflower seed seems to be crazy prices of around £220 for 1kg


Simpo Two

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Wish said:
Checking out wildflower seed seems to be crazy prices of around £220 for 1kg
If it's bees you're after then a selection of bee-attracting plants like buddleia and lavender might be more useful and successful. And cheaper!

robbieduncan

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236 months

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We did our front garden with seeds from here: https://www.wildflower.co.uk/wildflower-seed-mixtu...

They are indeed £220 per kg but as the so rare is 3g per sq/m I can’t imagine many people needing a kg!

First year was quite disappointing but this year it’s great. Thigh high and loads of flowers

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 4th June 2021
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55palfers said:
Make sure the mix is of native British wild flowers though.
I bought some so called wild flower seed off eBay. It came from China. It only propagated one type of plant that is a well known weed most people try to eradicate from their gardens as it's rampant. One years seeds, seven years weeds and all that, still trying to get rid of it now.

Buy cheap, buy twice. Buy from China then get crap.

Get good quality British seed.

BenBuzz

56 posts

151 months

Friday 4th June 2021
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I buy all my wildflowers, cornfield annuals etc. from Emorsgate Seeds, top quality seed, you get what you pay for!

rxe

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103 months

Friday 4th June 2021
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We use Cotswold seeds.

There is a world of difference between bunging a load of annual wild flower seeds in and actually establishing a meadow. For a meadow, you need non-vigorous grasses and a st load of yellow rattle. Rattle is a grass parasite, knocks down the grass, and allows other stuff to grow. About 5 years after we carpet bombed our field with rattle, the annuals are just about starting to survive.

If you want something bee friendly now, lob a load of borage in.

BoggoStump

315 posts

49 months

Saturday 5th June 2021
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IanA2

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162 months

Saturday 5th June 2021
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rxe said:
We use Cotswold seeds.

There is a world of difference between bunging a load of annual wild flower seeds in and actually establishing a meadow. For a meadow, you need non-vigorous grasses and a st load of yellow rattle. Rattle is a grass parasite, knocks down the grass, and allows other stuff to grow. About 5 years after we carpet bombed our field with rattle, the annuals are just about starting to survive.

If you want something bee friendly now, lob a load of borage in.
Yup, yellow rattle is the secret weapon...

Simpo Two

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rxe

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103 months

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We got our rattle from the local golf course - the groundsman had established a meadow over about 20 years. We spent a Sunday morning there 6 years ago gathering bin bags full of the stuff. We’ve now got several huge patches of it which are gradually covering the entire 7 acres.

The groundsman retired 2 years ago and the golfists decided the meadow was untidy and sprayed the lot off. tts.

Turn7

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221 months

Saturday 5th June 2021
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Have a read of this, doesnt have to be wildflowers per se...

https://www.bbka.org.uk/gardening-for-bees

Edited by Turn7 on Saturday 5th June 19:28