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Davie_GLA

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6,525 posts

200 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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Holy crap Caddy. Thinking of you and yours. This sport has potentially to go from completely calm to lfe affirming real quick.

She will get back on, this thing is in the DNA of anyone who is involved with them.

We are preparing to wave goodby to our Welsh D this morning as he moves on to his next family. The horse is very special so I hope they treat him well.

We have our ex racer TB up for sale also to make way for another which will be more suited to competitive showjumping. Selling horses is hard work, I thought people buying and selling cars had it tough, this attracts a whole new breed of lunatic and scammers.

CantDecide

216 posts

203 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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Davie_GLA said:
Holy crap Caddy. Thinking of you and yours. This sport has potentially to go from completely calm to lfe affirming real quick.

She will get back on, this thing is in the DNA of anyone who is involved with them.

We are preparing to wave goodby to our Welsh D this morning as he moves on to his next family. The horse is very special so I hope they treat him well.

We have our ex racer TB up for sale also to make way for another which will be more suited to competitive showjumping. Selling horses is hard work, I thought people buying and selling cars had it tough, this attracts a whole new breed of lunatic and scammers.
Good luck with the sale of the TB! I have just managed to sell my Hanoverian after a month of trying and lots of money spent with someone helping riding him to get the best. Had someone try him four times before deciding he wasn’t the one. However had a lovely lady try him Thursday then came back to hack on Friday and collected him yesterday. Today I find myself all over the horsey sites looking for a new one.

On that note, I have set up a super clean focussed website for selling horses. Happy to advertise yours free if you care to provide some details. Not sure if I can mention the name here so please feel free to PM me.

Edited by CantDecide on Sunday 30th April 16:11

shocks

787 posts

165 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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Sorry to hear that Caddy, hope she makes a speedy recovery. They tend to be more resilient and determined as a result! Even if it does have us worried sick at their antics

Davie_GLA

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6,525 posts

200 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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CantDecide said:
Good luck with the sale of the TB! I have just managed to sell my Hanoverian after a month of trying and lots of money spent with someone helping riding him to get the best. Had someone try him four times before deciding he wasn’t the one. However had a lovely lady try him Thursday then came back to hack on Friday and collected him yesterday. Today I find myself all over the horsey sites looking for a new one.

On that note, I have set up a super clean focussed website for selling horses. Happy to advertise yours free if you care to provide some details. Not sure if I can mention the name here so please feel free to PM me.

Edited by CantDecide on Sunday 30th April 16:11
Thanks mate and I’ll take you up on that. Drop me a message. I’ve also had some ideas about horse sales and the minefield - maybe bounce some ideas off you!

rallye101

1,912 posts

198 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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My farrier mate tells me it's about £2100quid/ month basic for a a race horse in Surrey now!!!!!
My game of golf is peanuts!.....

Caddyshack

10,827 posts

207 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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rallye101 said:
My farrier mate tells me it's about £2100quid/ month basic for a a race horse in Surrey now!!!!!
My game of golf is peanuts!.....
Do you mean the cost of full livery and training/ exercise?

rallye101

1,912 posts

198 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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Yep, bang on surrry average he claims.....

Caddyshack

10,827 posts

207 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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rallye101 said:
Yep, bang on surrry average he claims.....
Our horse is a competition (eventing). It’s about £1200 pm to keep it fed, shod, watered and insured but we don’t pay for exercise…so I can imagine a racehorse could easily be that. We are in Surrey. I guess the pony would be about £20-30k to replace.

MGJ2

385 posts

139 months

Friday 5th May 2023
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Caddyshack said:
Thanks...yes, she would have gotten back on the very next day if we had allowed her...raring to go and keeps telling us she can still go to RW but I expect she won't be ready.
Please, please, please, tell her to take enough time to recover from that concussion. I fell off my horse in july when I jumped a cross country fence. Unfortunately I fell in front of the horse and got a foot against my cap. The 30 minutes after that are completely lost: I just woke up, leaning against our car/horsebox feeling as if I had one beer too many.
And up until today I suffer from memory loss. I think because I did not long enough to recover and started work again the next day.

Davie_GLA

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6,525 posts

200 months

Friday 5th May 2023
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We sold out Welsh and gotta say I am gutted. He is a very special big guy and miss him dearly.

We are now on the hunt for the next one an thanks to caddy for his offer to list the horse on his fledgling site.

Caddy I’ll get around to getting back to you shortly!


Caddyshack

10,827 posts

207 months

Friday 5th May 2023
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MGJ2 said:
Caddyshack said:
Thanks...yes, she would have gotten back on the very next day if we had allowed her...raring to go and keeps telling us she can still go to RW but I expect she won't be ready.
Please, please, please, tell her to take enough time to recover from that concussion. I fell off my horse in july when I jumped a cross country fence. Unfortunately I fell in front of the horse and got a foot against my cap. The 30 minutes after that are completely lost: I just woke up, leaning against our car/horsebox feeling as if I had one beer too many.
And up until today I suffer from memory loss. I think because I did not long enough to recover and started work again the next day.
Thanks - will pass that on to her. We have withdrawn her from Royal Windsor.

K50 DEL

9,237 posts

229 months

Saturday 6th May 2023
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Apparently Le Mieux can even empty my bank account by proxy.....

Their (rather large) shop at Badminton contained a few "must haves"

<sigh>

Free tickets are not always "free" lol

MGJ2

385 posts

139 months

Saturday 6th May 2023
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K50 DEL said:
Apparently Le Mieux can even empty my bank account by proxy.....

Their (rather large) shop at Badminton contained a few "must haves"

<sigh>

Free tickets are not always "free" lol
This sounds as if my wife was there with you....

Although I did spend a lot when there was a 50% discount at a show near us.

Davie_GLA

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6,525 posts

200 months

Saturday 6th May 2023
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I too am a victim of the Le Mieux payment taking fairies. IT's quite remarkable how they manage to do it and we just sit back and say "cool, that's nice". Hats off to the marketing department.

CantDecide

216 posts

203 months

Sunday 18th June 2023
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We have hay! We never expected to get enough grass for hay, especially given all fields were power narrowed and re-seeded last September because they had been abandoned for years, but the wet spring has given everyone lots of grass and got ours off to a great start.

That led to an interesting issue in that we soon found out we had our access way too tight for the modern machinery, but eventually found a local old chap using stuff from the 1960’s which was much more compact. That gave us the opportunity to get six paddocks cut for hay, hoping to get 300 bales… we got 519, sounds great but with rain forecast we had one day to get it all off the fields which meant one very tiring day for my wife and I to try and get it in. Next problem, we don’t have enough storage - we managed to squash 400 bales in the barn and a couple of stables and just had to sell the rest from the field, which means we had just under 120 bales we didn’t need to bring in. Result!

Really satisfying getting our own hay and we should have 2/3 of what we need for the winter. Lovely stuff too. Also never seen a baker working before, amazing piece of tech, especially given it’s almost 60 years old.





The jiffle king

6,916 posts

259 months

Sunday 18th June 2023
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Are they the smaller bales ?
Our farmer only makes the large rectangular ones which weight 250kg+ out 5-6 acre field gets between 20 (bad year) and 54 (good year)

Great watching the process and really good to see the skill of the people who operate telehamdlers

CantDecide

216 posts

203 months

Monday 19th June 2023
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The jiffle king said:
Are they the smaller bales ?
Our farmer only makes the large rectangular ones which weight 250kg+ out 5-6 acre field gets between 20 (bad year) and 54 (good year)

Great watching the process and really good to see the skill of the people who operate telehamdlers
Yes the smaller rectangular bales which we love since they are easy to handle and stack!

The process is amazing as was the operators skill in driving, negotiating through are small entrances and fixing the machine when it broke down. (Just sheared a bolt in this case). the old boy was is his 70’s and has been doing this on the side for many many years.

Phooey

12,605 posts

170 months

Sunday 25th June 2023
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Hi, I've just started a thread in the Commercial section (hoping for some broad mechanical knowledge) but thought it might be worth asking here too!

Daughter and missus are into ponies and a few overnight events are starting to materialise. I have this mad idea about buying a 7.5t box with living, and using it as intended.

How reliable are these? I'm looking at something around 2013-2017. I think most are built on IVECO's or DAF's (I can link some examples if required) and have circa 100-200k miles.

What yearly maintenance do they require?

Anything else I need to know biggrin

Thanks!

LooneyTunes

6,855 posts

159 months

Monday 26th June 2023
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Just a point regarding hay, if you had to get it in off the field quickly/with less drying time than you would have liked, do keep an eye on it! Without wishing to sound like a potential doom-monger, hay that is baled/stacked when it’s still too damp is at greater risk of self-heating to the point at which it can catch fire. Worth being aware of if not already.

Phooey said:
Hi, I've just started a thread in the Commercial section (hoping for some broad mechanical knowledge) but thought it might be worth asking here too!

Daughter and missus are into ponies and a few overnight events are starting to materialise. I have this mad idea about buying a 7.5t box with living, and using it as intended.

How reliable are these? I'm looking at something around 2013-2017. I think most are built on IVECO's or DAF's (I can link some examples if required) and have circa 100-200k miles.

What yearly maintenance do they require?

Anything else I need to know biggrin

Thanks!
You need an annual test, but general maintenance requirements aren’t generally that onerous (assuming in good condition when you start).

We bought a cheap one 15 or so years ago, got rid and used a trailer for a few years, and then got a more expensive one a couple of years ago. Based on this:

1) You’re right that reliability is critical. As soon as they’re not confident it will get them there/back it just won’t get used.
2) Make sure they can throw the ramp up/down without assistance. Should be possible with any in good condition, if not they won’t use it as often… and the struts are apparently expensive.
3) Make sure there’s keypad access to the living (and you put a safe in there). If you don’t, the whole thing will be left unlocked (with the keys in). You’d like to think that people are honest but you want handbags etc out of the way and the vehicle itself to be incapable of growing legs.
4) Aircon is well worth it, if you can find one with it fitted.
5) Make sure there are sufficient seats/belts for the number of passengers you’ll have. If you’ve historically driven separately to watch events, factor in that you might want this to change if you suddenly have the option of a fridge full of beer/wine, especially if you get on with other others who might also appreciate a cold drink or two.

I saved a significant sum when buying by persuading MrsLT (who was all set on getting a new build done) to get one that was a few years old “to see what she’d change when building one”. A respray from the manufacturer (from whom we bought it) and new badges cost under £5k and made it look “as new” externally, with a horsey plate to hide age. I think that was four years ago, and she’s not made any noises about changing it.

Phooey

12,605 posts

170 months

Monday 26th June 2023
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LooneyTunes said:
You need an annual test, but general maintenance requirements aren’t generally that onerous (assuming in good condition when you start).

We bought a cheap one 15 or so years ago, got rid and used a trailer for a few years, and then got a more expensive one a couple of years ago. Based on this:

1) You’re right that reliability is critical. As soon as they’re not confident it will get them there/back it just won’t get used.
2) Make sure they can throw the ramp up/down without assistance. Should be possible with any in good condition, if not they won’t use it as often… and the struts are apparently expensive.
3) Make sure there’s keypad access to the living (and you put a safe in there). If you don’t, the whole thing will be left unlocked (with the keys in). You’d like to think that people are honest but you want handbags etc out of the way and the vehicle itself to be incapable of growing legs.
4) Aircon is well worth it, if you can find one with it fitted.
5) Make sure there are sufficient seats/belts for the number of passengers you’ll have. If you’ve historically driven separately to watch events, factor in that you might want this to change if you suddenly have the option of a fridge full of beer/wine, especially if you get on with other others who might also appreciate a cold drink or two.

I saved a significant sum when buying by persuading MrsLT (who was all set on getting a new build done) to get one that was a few years old “to see what she’d change when building one”. A respray from the manufacturer (from whom we bought it) and new badges cost under £5k and made it look “as new” externally, with a horsey plate to hide age. I think that was four years ago, and she’s not made any noises about changing it.
Fantastic - thanks for info and advice, LT. I'll let you know how I get on... although i did speak with a few of the 'regarded' builders today and they were saying a 4.5t or 5t with living might be a better option (something like an I.C.E. Prestige or Aeos Discovery 45 - just 2 examples) so currently exploring these.. although prices seem to be higher than originally budgeted. Typical <sigh>