Any Samoyed owners here?
Discussion
And if so I'd welcome their thoughts on the breed?
As a bit of background, our Lab of 12 years passed away about 6 weeks ago, and although we're not rushing to get anything else the house does feel very empty without him. I think we'd struggle to get another Lab so soon as we'd be constantly making comparisons, so are looking at other breeds, and one we do quite like is the Samoyed.
The shedding/grooming does not bother us, we don't have a massive house/garden but are less than 5 minutes walk from plenty of open fields and woodland walks. I think if anything our main concern is they are known for being very vocal, and although I don't mind a bit of barking I don't really want to piss the neighbours off, so just wondered what other people's experiences are? Is it a case of them being easily "set off", such as by movement or noises outside, or do they constantly bark for no obvious reason? Or is it not that bad...?
Anything else about them we should be considering?
I should add, between me and Mrs ZS we work from home at least 4 days a week, and on the other day we'd have someone come in a couple of times to let them out and play for a bit.
TIA
As a bit of background, our Lab of 12 years passed away about 6 weeks ago, and although we're not rushing to get anything else the house does feel very empty without him. I think we'd struggle to get another Lab so soon as we'd be constantly making comparisons, so are looking at other breeds, and one we do quite like is the Samoyed.
The shedding/grooming does not bother us, we don't have a massive house/garden but are less than 5 minutes walk from plenty of open fields and woodland walks. I think if anything our main concern is they are known for being very vocal, and although I don't mind a bit of barking I don't really want to piss the neighbours off, so just wondered what other people's experiences are? Is it a case of them being easily "set off", such as by movement or noises outside, or do they constantly bark for no obvious reason? Or is it not that bad...?
Anything else about them we should be considering?
I should add, between me and Mrs ZS we work from home at least 4 days a week, and on the other day we'd have someone come in a couple of times to let them out and play for a bit.
TIA
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They are not Labs. They are bloody stubborn and need training ruthlessly early on, if successful with that you’ll never look back. My other half grew up with them and we now have two. If you gel with them that will happen as well. She did the hard yards with the training and grooming.
They are very prey driven and recall training is also essential. It will not work every time. A glance of a squirrel and they are off like a bullet. They will come back when they are ready. But they will come back. They need a lot of walking as you’d expect being part sled dogs. They have to be on a lead on the street and near cars. They cannot be trusted not to chase something that looks appetising and they do not mix with cats.
Why we adore them is their nature with children and people. Our b
h is big for a Samoyed she’s 40kg but so gentle with anyone who wants to say hello and have a stroke. And that’s another huge issue. Everyone wants to do just that…it takes ages every walk and if we are sat outside a pub the attention is none stop, they never complain. Ever. Neither do we!
They shed like fk. Twice a year they lose their bottom coat and the hair will fill several bin bags. They will need a 20 minute brush daily at this point which is a faff but essential. Save the fur. Either spread if round the garden for nesting birds or when they are fully grown we send the fur to a lady who spins it like wool and make coats for dogs that have lost there own fur.
Any questions please ask. We’ve a 5 month old puppy now so are repeating the puppy pain right now! Again!
Ask away.
They are not Labs. They are bloody stubborn and need training ruthlessly early on, if successful with that you’ll never look back. My other half grew up with them and we now have two. If you gel with them that will happen as well. She did the hard yards with the training and grooming.
They are very prey driven and recall training is also essential. It will not work every time. A glance of a squirrel and they are off like a bullet. They will come back when they are ready. But they will come back. They need a lot of walking as you’d expect being part sled dogs. They have to be on a lead on the street and near cars. They cannot be trusted not to chase something that looks appetising and they do not mix with cats.
Why we adore them is their nature with children and people. Our b
h is big for a Samoyed she’s 40kg but so gentle with anyone who wants to say hello and have a stroke. And that’s another huge issue. Everyone wants to do just that…it takes ages every walk and if we are sat outside a pub the attention is none stop, they never complain. Ever. Neither do we!They shed like f
k. Twice a year they lose their bottom coat and the hair will fill several bin bags. They will need a 20 minute brush daily at this point which is a faff but essential. Save the fur. Either spread if round the garden for nesting birds or when they are fully grown we send the fur to a lady who spins it like wool and make coats for dogs that have lost there own fur. Any questions please ask. We’ve a 5 month old puppy now so are repeating the puppy pain right now! Again!
Another contender may be a Chow Chow. They don't need walking far. Two 15 min sessions seems to be fine. I took on a 17 week old rescue one and he's been flipping awsome. I've had him a month and can't get over my good fortune. Every day just gets better then yesterday. His prey drive is kicking in so I have to watch that. Apart from that he's unphased by everything I've shown him. Calm as calm can be when 10 feet from a passing train or lorry. He's really easy going but like the Samoyed will need proper bonding and training. He's just starting to tune in to me and it's a wonderful experience.
An Akita may be an option to. They look a bit 'aggressive' but when reading up about them they seemed to have a good rapsheet.
An Akita may be an option to. They look a bit 'aggressive' but when reading up about them they seemed to have a good rapsheet.
Edited by Boosted LS1 on Saturday 19th June 18:17
Mia. Just turned 7. We are hoping for 12-15 years out of her. Cooper, the puppy above is 3 months in the photo.
Be aware but not afraid of Eastern European imports. There aren’t that many Samoyed breeders in the UK. However you can’t fake a Samoyed puppy and our second is as far from kennel,club registered as you could imagine but is a strong healthy beautifully natured dog. But we’ll researched
They do not respond to well to shouting or aggression when being trained so the more you affection you give the more they give back.
Good luck.
I have read that Sammies don’t cause an allergic reaction in people who are allergic to dogs. Something to do with them having hair rather than fur or the other way round. Irrespective of reason, is it true?
And equally: chow chows are typically dog- like when it comes to causing allergic reactions. True?
And equally: chow chows are typically dog- like when it comes to causing allergic reactions. True?
BlackWidow13 said:
I have read that Sammies don’t cause an allergic reaction in people who are allergic to dogs. Something to do with them having hair rather than fur or the other way round. Irrespective of reason, is it true?
And equally: chow chows are typically dog- like when it comes to causing allergic reactions. True?
Samoyeds don’t have dander, so unless they’re wet they don’t smell or cause allergic reactions. It’s the dander in dogs that normally triggers allergies. And equally: chow chows are typically dog- like when it comes to causing allergic reactions. True?
Never had a chow. Got bit by one once though!
Gone a bit AMG said:
BlackWidow13 said:
I have read that Sammies don’t cause an allergic reaction in people who are allergic to dogs. Something to do with them having hair rather than fur or the other way round. Irrespective of reason, is it true?
And equally: chow chows are typically dog- like when it comes to causing allergic reactions. True?
Samoyeds don’t have dander, so unless they’re wet they don’t smell or cause allergic reactions. It’s the dander in dogs that normally triggers allergies. And equally: chow chows are typically dog- like when it comes to causing allergic reactions. True?
Never had a chow. Got bit by one once though!
Samoyeds are a northern breed and part of the spitz genetic group, and as gone a bit AMG states they can be very stubborn. Those lovely pointed ears are brilliant for ignoring you if you haven’t put the work into training at the very beginning. I’ve kept Huskies for years and many of the spitz breed are fantastic dogs, with the right upbringing. Just like us.
Again I will echo what gone a bit AMG says about Samoyeds is true for many of this breed, shouting and aggression gets you ignored and increases your frustration when trying to train. The way forward is to make things fun for the dog during training, making it fun and interesting gives the dog a far better reason to be trained.
They are intelligent and need to be led.
I’m allergic to cats and Guinea Pigs and I don’t react at all to my boy.
Again I will echo what gone a bit AMG says about Samoyeds is true for many of this breed, shouting and aggression gets you ignored and increases your frustration when trying to train. The way forward is to make things fun for the dog during training, making it fun and interesting gives the dog a far better reason to be trained.
They are intelligent and need to be led.
I’m allergic to cats and Guinea Pigs and I don’t react at all to my boy.
Boosted LS1 said:
Gone a bit AMG said:
BlackWidow13 said:
I have read that Sammies don’t cause an allergic reaction in people who are allergic to dogs. Something to do with them having hair rather than fur or the other way round. Irrespective of reason, is it true?
And equally: chow chows are typically dog- like when it comes to causing allergic reactions. True?
Samoyeds don’t have dander, so unless they’re wet they don’t smell or cause allergic reactions. It’s the dander in dogs that normally triggers allergies. And equally: chow chows are typically dog- like when it comes to causing allergic reactions. True?
Never had a chow. Got bit by one once though!
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