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23.7

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183 months

Sunday 1st August 2021
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We have one of these currently.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/PetSafe-Staywell-Convenie...

Dog 1 leaned to use this year's ago, with a little biscuit based encouragement.




4 months ago we adopted dog 2, from an elderly relative. Dog has already known us and the house for a couple of yrs though. Settled in well, holds her own with dog 1 even though dog 1 gets a bit grumpy. She's a welcome member of the family, only 5kg but very agile and quick to learn



Thing is however much encouragement, treats, holding flap open she won't use it. It makes a bit of a racket maybe that's it. Do you think dog 2 may take to one of those soft vinyl kennel flaps better?

Anyone else had this situation?



Edited by 23.7 on Sunday 1st August 09:51

23.7

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Sunday 1st August 2021
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Well I've removed the flap completely and left the frame.

Still not keen, I'll let her get used to it for a few days before any further training.



Edited by 23.7 on Sunday 1st August 11:20

Monkeylegend

26,386 posts

231 months

Sunday 1st August 2021
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I was very wary of reading this thread based on the title

However now I see it is about letting dogs in and out we did this with our Jack Russell with a piece of raw meat on the other side of the flap, holding the flap open, and it took him all of 2 minutes to learn how to use it.

Our current dogs, no chance even if there was a dog on heat the other side.

Our cats use it but one of them is very lazy and will sit staring at it for ages if we are home waiting for us to open it for her to go out. She also has a habit of coming back in at full speed across the garden and just diving through. Our Jack Russell did this once when it was closed, but only the once, he was always very careful after that.

Sporky

6,245 posts

64 months

Sunday 1st August 2021
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Is it that she doesn't like pushing it with her nose? If so a vinyl one might be better, or go the whole hog and put in a Petwalk door - they're motorised.

23.7

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Sunday 1st August 2021
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I don't really ne the problem, she won't tell me.

Flaps off now just a gaping hole Mrs. 7 thinks it's to with the step. Not sure I've put bricks and wood there so she can just step through.

Some sort of phobia.

Sporky

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64 months

Sunday 1st August 2021
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23.7 said:
I don't really ne the problem, she won't tell me.
They're awkward like that - apologies for the stupid question on my part.

ChevronB19

5,780 posts

163 months

Sunday 1st August 2021
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I know this isn’t particularly relevant, but aren’t they a serious burglary risk?

23.7

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ChevronB19 said:
I know this isn’t particularly relevant, but aren’t they a serious burglary risk?
Dog 1 is 15kg and a snug fit. Unless burglar is some sort of freakishly small contortionist Ethan Hunt type I think they'd struggle.


Edited by 23.7 on Sunday 1st August 15:20

Monkeylegend

26,386 posts

231 months

Sunday 1st August 2021
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23.7 said:
ChevronB19 said:
I know this isn’t particularly relevant, but aren’t they a serious burglary risk?
Dog 1 is 15kg and a snug fit. Unless burglar is some sort of freakishly small contortionist Ethan Hunt type I think they'd struggle.


Edited by 23.7 on Sunday 1st August 15:20
They definitely are.

When we had our back door fitted we asked for a dog flap and they fitted "medium dog" sized flap which my other half being 5 foot 2 inches and 9 1/2 stone immediately crawled through. The window company changed it for a cat flap.

About 4 months ago we locked ourselves out and borrowed one of our neighbours 3 year old daughter who squeezed through the cat flap and she opened the front door for us.

Even with the security cover on it is easy to remove the door panel from the outside so they are not secure.


23.7

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An opportunistic gang of desperados descended on next door.

No mention of being equipped with children or sylph like females. They smashed a window, in and out within minutes.

Edited by 23.7 on Sunday 1st August 16:52

23.7

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Update, we have entry (not cat burglar) no 2 short dog.


Ham did it.

Monkeylegend

26,386 posts

231 months

Sunday 1st August 2021
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They all like a bit of meat.

spikeyhead

17,319 posts

197 months

Sunday 1st August 2021
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Monkeylegend said:
I was very wary of reading this thread based on the title

However now I see it is about letting dogs in and out we did this with our Jack Russell with a piece of raw meat on the other side of the flap, holding the flap open, and it took him all of 2 minutes to learn how to use it.

Our current dogs, no chance even if there was a dog on heat the other side.

Our cats use it but one of them is very lazy and will sit staring at it for ages if we are home waiting for us to open it for her to go out. She also has a habit of coming back in at full speed across the garden and just diving through. Our Jack Russell did this once when it was closed, but only the once, he was always very careful after that.
My brother had a dog flap for his Rottweilers. A clap of thunder sent them through the flap, which had been bolted shut.

We found out that a Rottie at full speed is stronger than a doorframe.

TeaNoSugar

1,239 posts

165 months

Sunday 1st August 2021
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spikeyhead said:
My brother had a dog flap for his Rottweilers. A clap of thunder sent them through the flap, which had been bolted shut.

We found out that a Rottie at full speed is stronger than a doorframe.
Even a dopey sprocker like ours can do some serious damage to a dogflap. I slid the locking plate on ours down, without realising the dog had gone back outside. I then called him from inside the kitchen and he piled into the dogflap at full speed, smashing the blanking plate in half and forcing the flap off its hinge fixings!

Also, my 3yr old (son, not pet!) crawls through it, and the other day my 10 year old nephew managed to squeeze through as well so they’re not exactly secure.

Monkeylegend

26,386 posts

231 months

Sunday 1st August 2021
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spikeyhead said:
My brother had a dog flap for his Rottweilers. A clap of thunder sent them through the flap, which had been bolted shut.

We found out that a Rottie at full speed is stronger than a doorframe.
I am not surprised hehe

23.7

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183 months

Thursday 5th August 2021
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Dog 2 still showing reluctance, not as agile as cat for leaping, aiming and shoving simultaneously.

Dog 1 just kinda wanders trough with 4 on the floor. So need something deeper and cut further into the bottom rail of the door.

All I can come up with is a kennel flap, which I can cut to size.




Not particularly satisfactory, any other answers? I like to get it done before the end of summer or it'll be flipping freezing in the lobby.

Sporky

6,245 posts

64 months

Thursday 5th August 2021
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Petwalk maybe then. Expensive, but our two figured it out in seconds, and it's secure and well insulated.

https://www.petwalk.uk/

23.7

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183 months

Thursday 5th August 2021
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Sporky said:
Petwalk maybe then. Expensive, but our two figured it out in seconds, and it's secure and well insulated.

https://www.petwalk.uk/
Thx, ideally a low tech, lower cost solution. (I've spent less on hooman doors and they usually include fitting)

Chrisgr31

13,475 posts

255 months

Friday 6th August 2021
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Monkeylegend said:
They definitely are.

When we had our back door fitted we asked for a dog flap and they fitted "medium dog" sized flap which my other half being 5 foot 2 inches and 9 1/2 stone immediately crawled through. The window company changed it for a cat flap.

About 4 months ago we locked ourselves out and borrowed one of our neighbours 3 year old daughter who squeezed through the cat flap and she opened the front door for us.

Even with the security cover on it is easy to remove the door panel from the outside so they are not secure.
A friend of mine had a dog flap for his German Shepherd. When asked about the risks to security he asked who would be stupid enough to put their head through when there was a barking fierce GErman Shepherd the other side.

Monkeylegend

26,386 posts

231 months

Friday 6th August 2021
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Chrisgr31 said:
Monkeylegend said:
They definitely are.

When we had our back door fitted we asked for a dog flap and they fitted "medium dog" sized flap which my other half being 5 foot 2 inches and 9 1/2 stone immediately crawled through. The window company changed it for a cat flap.

About 4 months ago we locked ourselves out and borrowed one of our neighbours 3 year old daughter who squeezed through the cat flap and she opened the front door for us.

Even with the security cover on it is easy to remove the door panel from the outside so they are not secure.
A friend of mine had a dog flap for his German Shepherd. When asked about the risks to security he asked who would be stupid enough to put their head through when there was a barking fierce GErman Shepherd the other side.
You put a piece of drugged meat through first, or taser the dog, then stick your head through.

I have been reading too much fiction.