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Kwackersaki

1,387 posts

229 months

Thursday 28th April 2022
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Fingers crossed for tomorrow.

He’s a lovely little chap.

Goodie84

11 posts

25 months

Thursday 28th April 2022
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OP, I’m very sorry to hear about the incident.

How did it happen?

Why were you not there to protect him?

The reason I ask is because I’ve had dogs for over 50 years and none of my dogs has ever been attacked by another dog. My wife and I have one dog now, although she will be our last one because of our ages.

I’ve always avoided dog parks or parks or any areas where lots of dogs are off their leads and their owners are just chatting away to each other because those places are where most dog attacks happen. I’ve never let any of my dogs greet random dogs and from a very young age they have always been taught basic training which includes learning to ignore other dogs.

I’ve always had large dogs and although any dog can attack any other dog, aggressive dogs, like human bullies, tend to pick on smaller types.

I hope that your dog and you will recover from the awful incident. It’s such a shame that it has happened because it’s not that common because what most people call ‘dog fights’ are just handbags and lots of noise, but obviously that wasn’t the case with regard to your dog.

I’m not sure if you aware or not but there isn’t a law about dogs attacking other dogs. Many PMs are trying to get a bill passed in the House of Commons.

Goodie84

11 posts

25 months

Thursday 28th April 2022
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soad said:
Mr Spoon said:
Sad to hear of the little doggies injuries. You haven't posted how this has happened, so I assume an off lead dog ran up to your on lead dog and resulted in this incident.
He was on a lead but proved too powerful for the persons to handle. Initially handled by a male, then passed to a boy. Dog then dragged the boy away...closing in fast, you can picture the rest.
Wasn’t muzzled neither.

I’m always aware/mindful of the people/dogs around us. Tend to even carry him, to keep him safe. frown
I get really annoyed about people who her dogs that they cannot physically handle. I saw the other dog when I was driving in my car a German Shepherd drag a woman over just to sniff some grass!

Goodie84

11 posts

25 months

Thursday 28th April 2022
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Mr Spoon said:
soad said:
Mr Spoon said:
Sad to hear of the little doggies injuries. You haven't posted how this has happened, so I assume an off lead dog ran up to your on lead dog and resulted in this incident.
He was on a lead but proved too powerful for the persons to handle. Initially handled by a male, then passed to a boy. Dog then dragged the boy away...closing in fast, you can picture the rest.
Wasn’t muzzled neither.

I’m always aware/mindful of the people/dogs around us. Tend to even carry him, to keep him safe. frown
That's awful to read. I presume it was a stereotypical your lead for the bread. I've no idea why harnesses aren't used. Much more control.

Is sad.
That’s not true. A harness, depending on the type, can actually help a dog to pull even more.

Goodie84

11 posts

25 months

Thursday 28th April 2022
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GranpaB said:
That is encouraging news!

Anyone who has a known aggressive dog breed should have a special licence to own one and only be permitted to walk them if they are muzzled.

This st happens far too often with owners thinking getting away with it, and at the end of the day, it is down to a poor or lack of training.
That’s not strictly true.

It depends on the breed, the lineage of the dog and the upbringing.

That’s why it’s so important to research and get a puppy from a reputable breeder.

The saying ‘there are no bad dogs only bad owners’ refers to people who have perfectly genetically fine dogs and just can’t be bothered to train them.

Chris Stott

13,413 posts

198 months

Thursday 28th April 2022
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Heart wrenching to read…. Hoping you little man pulls through.

Goodie84

11 posts

25 months

Thursday 28th April 2022
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[quote=Who me ?]After a few attacks on my last loved Cairn, I decided in lack of police action to get actively involved. As in if a dog attacked my dog I'd intervene, as Police take no action against dog on dog attacks, but they will on dog on humans. And there's a threat to other dog owner of dog being declared as a "dangerous dog".
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I would never allow my dog to get attacked by another dog. I love animals, but I shall always protect my dog from any animal or human for that matter. However, my dog is a large dog and could quite easily handle herself (although I would never want her to be involved in a fight).

There’s no law about a dog attacking another dog and even if there were I would never just stand and watch a dog trying to attack my dog.

Goodie84

11 posts

25 months

Thursday 28th April 2022
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soad said:
Little man is resting at home, it was the right decision to take him home. He’s happy that his “mum” is by his side.



Appointment booked for Friday, they’ll check him over once again.
Best of luck for tomorrow, I shall be thinking about you and your dog.

bennno

11,670 posts

270 months

Thursday 28th April 2022
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Goodie84 said:
GranpaB said:
That is encouraging news!

Anyone who has a known aggressive dog breed should have a special licence to own one and only be permitted to walk them if they are muzzled.

This st happens far too often with owners thinking getting away with it, and at the end of the day, it is down to a poor or lack of training.
That’s not strictly true.

It depends on the breed, the lineage of the dog and the upbringing.

That’s why it’s so important to research and get a puppy from a reputable breeder.

The saying ‘there are no bad dogs only bad owners’ refers to people who have perfectly genetically fine dogs and just can’t be bothered to train them.
Word of advice Goodie, a similar insensitive derailment of this thread already resulted in a lot of people getting very angry and posts being deleted. This is absolutely not the thread to start trying to justify dangerous dog breeds - given the exceptionally sad circumstances of the thread.

Please respect the OP and his situation.

Goodie84

11 posts

25 months

Thursday 28th April 2022
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bennno said:
Goodie84 said:
GranpaB said:
That is encouraging news!

Anyone who has a known aggressive dog breed should have a special licence to own one and only be permitted to walk them if they are muzzled.

This st happens far too often with owners thinking getting away with it, and at the end of the day, it is down to a poor or lack of training.
That’s not strictly true.

It depends on the breed, the lineage of the dog and the upbringing.

That’s why it’s so important to research and get a puppy from a reputable breeder.

The saying ‘there are no bad dogs only bad owners’ refers to people who have perfectly genetically fine dogs and just can’t be bothered to train them.
Word of advice Goodie, a similar insensitive derailment of this thread already resulted in a lot of people getting very angry and posts being deleted. This is absolutely not the thread to start trying to justify dangerous dog breeds - given the exceptionally sad circumstances of the thread.

Please respect the OP and his situation.
Huh? I think you have misunderstood my posts.

All I have done is pointed out that the person whose dog attacked the OP’s dog is an irresponsible dog ‘owner’ and should not have had the dog in the first place.

I also pointed out that irrespective of the dog breed it is very important to do your research and not to buy a puppy from a puppy farm and only from a reputable breeder. Genetics do play a part in a dog’s character just like genetics play a part in a human’s character.

There are loads of people who get dogs that they cannot physically handle (ignoring everything else for the moment) and it’s so silly and immature.

I do NOT condone dangerous dog breeds. So, for example, especially in America there’s a myth that Pitbulls were referred to as “nanny dogs” which is an absolute load of claptrap - they were bred to fight other dogs so it’s no surprise when you hear about them attacking other dogs and I’m glad that they are banned in the UK.

If you could quote where I “justified” dangerous dog breeds then I would be grateful. I shall clear up any confusions, even though I would say that most people can see quite clearly that I don’t condone any dog that is aggressive. Cheers.
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HappyMidget

6,788 posts

116 months

Friday 29th April 2022
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Thinking of you and the little one today soad.

CarCrazyDad

4,280 posts

36 months

Friday 29th April 2022
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Really sorry to read what's gone on - all the best for today

GT3Manthey

4,536 posts

50 months

Friday 29th April 2022
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Thoughts with you Soad

Seventy

5,500 posts

139 months

Friday 29th April 2022
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Ronny and I are eagerly waiting (and hoping) for good news today.

Jenny Tailor

1,727 posts

38 months

Saturday 30th April 2022
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Been checking in throughout the day.....

My hopes are still with the little fella.

ruggedscotty

5,629 posts

210 months

Saturday 30th April 2022
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watching with intent - hope all is well. rootin for the wee dog.

soad

Original Poster:

32,915 posts

177 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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He’s getting stronger as the time goes on, and loves his home cooked food.

Even started to pee outside on the grass, with some help. Has weekly check ups too, on a oral paracetamol suspension at present.

paulguitar

23,608 posts

114 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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soad said:
He’s getting stronger as the time goes on, and loves his home cooked food.

Even started to pee outside on the grass, with some help. Has weekly check ups too, on a oral paracetamol suspension at present.
That's great to hear. I'd been thinking about the two of you over the weekend.




soad

Original Poster:

32,915 posts

177 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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Goodie84 said:
OP, I’m very sorry to hear about the incident.

Why were you not there to protect him?
I’m usually the one that takes him out, in a car (to the countryside) for longer walks.

Mastiff

2,515 posts

242 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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