Walking dogs off lead, why?
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Some people with their dogs off lead have them under proper control. It's the ones who don't have proper control, whether they are on or off lead, which is the problem. I am particularly frustrated by people with those extending leads, who allow their dogs to wander about across the road and approach other people and dogs. Having it off lead AND not under proper control is of course the greatest sin. But an extending lead isn't much different. I used to use one, until I realised what a how ridiculous they were. My dog is now on a fixed lead when on the street, but can go off lead in a park - she has good enough recall then. I won't let her approach people unless they show an interest.
As always, it's the bi-pedal creature in the twosome who is the main culprit in any antisocial behaviour.
The incident reported by OP should be reported.
As always, it's the bi-pedal creature in the twosome who is the main culprit in any antisocial behaviour.
The incident reported by OP should be reported.
durbster said:
Because dogs need relatively more exercise than we do so allowing them to cover more distance is good for them.
I have mine off the lead as often as possible but I will put her back on if I see another dog on its lead or if there's a chance of an unwelcome encounter.
Is the correct answer. I have mine off the lead as often as possible but I will put her back on if I see another dog on its lead or if there's a chance of an unwelcome encounter.
Depending on the breed, dogs can walk huge distances, and do need to walk a lot to maintain their fitness. Sometimes my brother will walk over 10 miles in one day with his dog off the lead, and given the dogs natural instinct to 'quarter the ground' looking for game, he will cover at least twice that distance. He has a tracker on the collar and some days it has registered over 20 miles.
As my bother lives in the Lake District/countryside, he can spend hours with the dog off the lead and not bother anyone. There is never any chasing of sheep or anything like that.
My parents and brother have had dogs for the last 45 years, and they have never bitten anyone, Much of it depends on the breed and the training.
If you are walking down the street or in a relatively busy urban area with other people and traffic around, then yes, it makes sense to keep a dog on the lead, but out in the countryside on in a large park, they should be off the lead and encouraged to cover as much ground as possible.
Probably a massively over exaggerated account of what really happened anyhow as per usual.
It was probably a Cockapoo sniffing his arse or something. I've never known a dog 'try to bite' whilst loose ever, it either does or it doesn't, there is no try about it.
This is hot on the heels of yesterdays 'Blackbird destroyed my garden' thread.
It's like reading The Daily Sport.
It was probably a Cockapoo sniffing his arse or something. I've never known a dog 'try to bite' whilst loose ever, it either does or it doesn't, there is no try about it.
This is hot on the heels of yesterdays 'Blackbird destroyed my garden' thread.
It's like reading The Daily Sport.
GetCarter said:
A500leroy said:
Been in a situation where a dog tried to bite me several times today while the owners was 50 paces behind and on thier phone. When i shouted over for them to put thier mutt on a lead as it was attacking me they simple said i should stop shouting at the mutt to make it back off or I would have to deal with them instead of the dog.
What is the point of walking ANY dog off a lead on a public street?
I've owned 8 dogs and the only thing they would ever do to a stranger was lick them.What is the point of walking ANY dog off a lead on a public street?
The word 'ANY' is the wrong expression. 'SOME' or 'BADLY TRAINED' would be more appropriate.
I am a massive dog lover but there are situations where we need to demonstrate the animal is under control even if you if may not be 100% required. I will concede that you live in a rural area so things are different but I am firm in my opinion of leads on dogs in urban situations.
Edited by h0b0 on Friday 10th June 22:25
Evoluzione said:
Probably a massively over exaggerated account of what really happened anyhow as per usual.
It was probably a Cockapoo sniffing his arse or something. I've never known a dog 'try to bite' whilst loose ever, it either does or it doesn't, there is no try about it.
This is hot on the heels of yesterdays 'Blackbird destroyed my garden' thread.
It's like reading The Daily Sport.
Were you there? NO, so shut up.It was probably a Cockapoo sniffing his arse or something. I've never known a dog 'try to bite' whilst loose ever, it either does or it doesn't, there is no try about it.
This is hot on the heels of yesterdays 'Blackbird destroyed my garden' thread.
It's like reading The Daily Sport.
Evoluzione said:
Probably a massively over exaggerated account of what really happened anyhow as per usual.
It was probably a Cockapoo sniffing his arse or something. I've never known a dog 'try to bite' whilst loose ever, it either does or it doesn't, there is no try about it.
This is hot on the heels of yesterdays 'Blackbird destroyed my garden' thread.
It's like reading The Daily Sport.
I agree with this.It was probably a Cockapoo sniffing his arse or something. I've never known a dog 'try to bite' whilst loose ever, it either does or it doesn't, there is no try about it.
This is hot on the heels of yesterdays 'Blackbird destroyed my garden' thread.
It's like reading The Daily Sport.
How can a dog off lead "try to bite" you mean it was over friendly? Probably jumping up wanting to play. If it was going to bite you while off lead you'd have been bitten. Sounds like your story's smells iffy here. If I was the judge I'd certainly like to hear the true story from the other parties over friendly micro poodle thing.
My dogs were very rarely on the lead. We have 55 acres of deciduous woodland around our house which only ourselves and our neighbour have access to as it’s secure private land.
Both dogs were trained gun dogs and recall immediately to whistle and sit at heel. Tbh our remaining dog is now older and doesn’t tend to roam that far.
If we do walk along local canal or shore as soon as I see someone or a dog coming towards us I recall him to heel and slip lead over his head until people/dogs have passed by.
More for our protection than theirs tbh.
Both dogs were trained gun dogs and recall immediately to whistle and sit at heel. Tbh our remaining dog is now older and doesn’t tend to roam that far.
If we do walk along local canal or shore as soon as I see someone or a dog coming towards us I recall him to heel and slip lead over his head until people/dogs have passed by.
More for our protection than theirs tbh.
Around where I live and by the roads my dog is on the lead. Once in the woods or meadows she is off and enjoys running around. If we see another dog we keep her at heal until we recognise who it is, most dog owners around here know one another. As much as she wants to say hello to everyone she is under control until she is invited to do otherwise. I'd say where I am the majority of dog owners are the same. The pro dog walkers tend to be the worse for controlling their packs, or the odd townie who rarely have their dogs off a lead and let them go mad when they have there occasional woodland walk, although rarely are they a problem thankfully. I think in most cases its a minority that give responsible dog owners a bad name
hotchy said:
Evoluzione said:
Probably a massively over exaggerated account of what really happened anyhow as per usual.
It was probably a Cockapoo sniffing his arse or something. I've never known a dog 'try to bite' whilst loose ever, it either does or it doesn't, there is no try about it.
This is hot on the heels of yesterdays 'Blackbird destroyed my garden' thread.
It's like reading The Daily Sport.
I agree with this.It was probably a Cockapoo sniffing his arse or something. I've never known a dog 'try to bite' whilst loose ever, it either does or it doesn't, there is no try about it.
This is hot on the heels of yesterdays 'Blackbird destroyed my garden' thread.
It's like reading The Daily Sport.
How can a dog off lead "try to bite" you mean it was over friendly? Probably jumping up wanting to play. If it was going to bite you while off lead you'd have been bitten. Sounds like your story's smells iffy here. If I was the judge I'd certainly like to hear the true story from the other parties over friendly micro poodle thing.
A500leroy said:
hotchy said:
Evoluzione said:
Probably a massively over exaggerated account of what really happened anyhow as per usual.
It was probably a Cockapoo sniffing his arse or something. I've never known a dog 'try to bite' whilst loose ever, it either does or it doesn't, there is no try about it.
This is hot on the heels of yesterdays 'Blackbird destroyed my garden' thread.
It's like reading The Daily Sport.
I agree with this.It was probably a Cockapoo sniffing his arse or something. I've never known a dog 'try to bite' whilst loose ever, it either does or it doesn't, there is no try about it.
This is hot on the heels of yesterdays 'Blackbird destroyed my garden' thread.
It's like reading The Daily Sport.
How can a dog off lead "try to bite" you mean it was over friendly? Probably jumping up wanting to play. If it was going to bite you while off lead you'd have been bitten. Sounds like your story's smells iffy here. If I was the judge I'd certainly like to hear the true story from the other parties over friendly micro poodle thing.
A500leroy said:
Evoluzione said:
Probably a massively over exaggerated account of what really happened anyhow as per usual.
It was probably a Cockapoo sniffing his arse or something. I've never known a dog 'try to bite' whilst loose ever, it either does or it doesn't, there is no try about it.
This is hot on the heels of yesterdays 'Blackbird destroyed my garden' thread.
It's like reading The Daily Sport.
Were you there? NO, so shut up.It was probably a Cockapoo sniffing his arse or something. I've never known a dog 'try to bite' whilst loose ever, it either does or it doesn't, there is no try about it.
This is hot on the heels of yesterdays 'Blackbird destroyed my garden' thread.
It's like reading The Daily Sport.
Sometimes they will jump up at you, bark, ram their head into your legs, and so on, but none of this is biting, and it isn't usually aggressive behaviour. I'm not saying owners should allow this, but it isn't an attack by the dog.
Are you frightened of dogs in general? I ask because often people who are scared of dogs can mistake regular 'dog behaviour' for an attack, and find it frightening.
That aside, the owner is in the wrong here for allowing the dog to behave like that.
Lord Marylebone said:
A500leroy said:
Evoluzione said:
Probably a massively over exaggerated account of what really happened anyhow as per usual.
It was probably a Cockapoo sniffing his arse or something. I've never known a dog 'try to bite' whilst loose ever, it either does or it doesn't, there is no try about it.
This is hot on the heels of yesterdays 'Blackbird destroyed my garden' thread.
It's like reading The Daily Sport.
Were you there? NO, so shut up.It was probably a Cockapoo sniffing his arse or something. I've never known a dog 'try to bite' whilst loose ever, it either does or it doesn't, there is no try about it.
This is hot on the heels of yesterdays 'Blackbird destroyed my garden' thread.
It's like reading The Daily Sport.
Sometimes they will jump up at you, bark, ram their head into your legs, and so on, but none of this is biting, and it isn't usually aggressive behaviour. I'm not saying owners should allow this, but it isn't an attack by the dog.
Are you frightened of dogs in general? I ask because often people who are scared of dogs can mistake regular 'dog behaviour' for an attack, and find it frightening.
That aside, the owner is in the wrong here for allowing the dog to behave like that.
As we all know Collies can be a bit nuts sometimes and this one was obviously mental.
I took my 3 year old to a park after nursery a couple of nights ago and not long after, I assume nan with grandkid came in the play area with dog on a lead.
The dog wasn't causing much if any issues but was putting me on edge not just for my kid but for others too.
I went over and asked nicely '' do you mind putting your dog on a lead while there are kids about please''
had the whole ''ohh she doesn't bite'' b
ks so I just replied ''I get that but kids don't know that and it is a play area so if you don't mind can you put it on a lead please?''
Just looked straight through me and let her dog wander about. Some people just don't give a toss
The dog wasn't causing much if any issues but was putting me on edge not just for my kid but for others too.
I went over and asked nicely '' do you mind putting your dog on a lead while there are kids about please''
had the whole ''ohh she doesn't bite'' b
ks so I just replied ''I get that but kids don't know that and it is a play area so if you don't mind can you put it on a lead please?'' Just looked straight through me and let her dog wander about. Some people just don't give a toss
A500leroy said:
Like i said i created a barrier with my trolley as well, Having been biten numerous times over the years i know when a dog is coming to say hi and enjoy it and when they are coming to try and rip my calf in half!
As we all know Collies can be a bit nuts sometimes and this one was obviously mental.
It was a Collie?As we all know Collies can be a bit nuts sometimes and this one was obviously mental.
Right, well that changes everything. Yes it was probably trying to bite you. They are absolute f
king s. Despite loving dogs, I fking hate Collies.They are one of the worst breeds for sneaking round the back of you and biting your legs, and they love to do that to other dogs.
Motherf
kers. Great working dogs, but f
k knows you you would own one if you didn't have a sheep farm.Lord Marylebone said:
It was a Collie?
Right, well that changes everything. Yes it was probably trying to bite you. They are absolute fking s. Despite loving dogs, I fking hate Collies.
They are one of the worst breeds for sneaking round the back of you and biting your legs, and they love to do that to other dogs.
Motherfkers.
Great working dogs, but fk knows you you would own one if you didn't have a sheep farm.
Right, well that changes everything. Yes it was probably trying to bite you. They are absolute f
king s. Despite loving dogs, I fking hate Collies.They are one of the worst breeds for sneaking round the back of you and biting your legs, and they love to do that to other dogs.
Motherf
kers. Great working dogs, but f
k knows you you would own one if you didn't have a sheep farm.Mine has never tried to bite anyone in 8 years. Well apart from us when he was a puppy! Mine is a social distancing collie, will go out of his way to avoid other dogs or people.
Just need to keep their body and minds busy!
A500leroy said:
Evoluzione said:
Probably a massively over exaggerated account of what really happened anyhow as per usual.
It was probably a Cockapoo sniffing his arse or something. I've never known a dog 'try to bite' whilst loose ever, it either does or it doesn't, there is no try about it.
This is hot on the heels of yesterdays 'Blackbird destroyed my garden' thread.
It's like reading The Daily Sport.
Were you there? NO, so shut up.It was probably a Cockapoo sniffing his arse or something. I've never known a dog 'try to bite' whilst loose ever, it either does or it doesn't, there is no try about it.
This is hot on the heels of yesterdays 'Blackbird destroyed my garden' thread.
It's like reading The Daily Sport.
The other morning I came across a nervous postman who threatened my dog with his bag and trolley. The dog loved it and thought it was the best game ever. Even moreso when said postie offerred him a juicy calf to bite in half. :-)
This doesn't seem much like a dangerous dog attack to me.
This doesn't seem much like a dangerous dog attack to me.
GetCarter said:
A500leroy said:
Been in a situation where a dog tried to bite me several times today while the owners was 50 paces behind and on thier phone. When i shouted over for them to put thier mutt on a lead as it was attacking me they simple said i should stop shouting at the mutt to make it back off or I would have to deal with them instead of the dog.
What is the point of walking ANY dog off a lead on a public street?
I've owned 8 dogs and the only thing they would ever do to a stranger was lick them.What is the point of walking ANY dog off a lead on a public street?
The word 'ANY' is the wrong expression. 'SOME' or 'BADLY TRAINED' would be more appropriate.
- many people don't like being licked without consent by another mammal!
- they don't know licking is all that will happen.
Put yourself in the other person's shoes and you'll see more clearly on this.
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