Walking dogs off lead, why?

[blade7]

Jasandjules said:

The dog owner was in the wrong.

Have a dog off lead by all means but ensure you can control it.

I've owned dogs my whole life and currently have four, just for disclosure...

So how are we all supposed to know, who has control over their dogs and who doesn't. And how many people have been maimed or killed by dogs that hadn't bitten before?

[spikeyhead]

lrdisco said:

spikeyhead said:

Whats on Second said:

ChocolateFrog said:

I really don't understand why you wouldn't put a size 10 through it long before there was a third attempt.

that would probably come under the heading:

using more force than the situation requires.

dogs and owners, best not to get involved at all.

Had the owner been male, I'd have probably lumped them. It's not the dogs fault that it's been badly brought up.

Ah so your the one with anger management issues. Threatening violence. Now that’s very grown up. You sound like a 12 year old at the school gates.

If someone's getting right in my face blaming me for feeding my leg to their dog, I'm quite capable of returning the pain without getting angry.

How would you respond when a little yappy dog runs up to you and bites you?

[Thevet]

spikeyhead said:

How would you respond when a little yappy dog runs up to you and bites you?

40 years ago, when I was young and fit, did a lot of running, racing in spikes. Was chased by a jack russell during a cross country race and couldn't shake it off, so turned around and booted it with my inch long spikes.......it ran off and i finished unscathed. Uncontrolled dogs are not good for people or other dogs.
My present 50kg monster stays on a lead whenever others are around as he just won't listen and runs up to any one and everyone to say hello, which is pretty intimidating if you don't know him. I don't want to offend others or get my pooch into trouble, and i would prefer other dog owners to see me putting my dog on a lead to avoid a possibility of trouble. Annoys me when dogs are allowed to run up to me and my dog with no effort to control them. I've never seen a dog with bigger jaw muscles than my hound, he could do massive damage if he wanted, thankfully he has never shown that inclination, but 50 kg full pelt coming to say hello can cause its own chaos. No idea if he would defend me if faced with aggression.
Reminds me of a case we saw a couple of years ago, dog on a lead in a park, unleaded dog runs up while being told "keep your dog away, he doesn't like other dogs"......oops big bite and one dead dog. I wouldn't have a dog like that in a public space but why do people think they can ignore the signs and warnings. Each to their own and no doubt there will be many more angry posts.

[ChocolateFrog]

Whats on Second said:

ChocolateFrog said:

I really don't understand why you wouldn't put a size 10 through it long before there was a third attempt.

that would probably come under the heading:

using more force than the situation requires.

dogs and owners, best not to get involved at all.

Really?

You're in the process of being bitten by a dog. What do you do?

I seriously recommend against reaching down as any damage to the ligaments in your hands has the potential to be serious and even small, yappy dogs can run faster than me.

[Boosted LS1]

blade7 said:

Jasandjules said:

The dog owner was in the wrong.

Have a dog off lead by all means but ensure you can control it.

I've owned dogs my whole life and currently have four, just for disclosure...

So how are we all supposed to know, who has control over their dogs and who doesn't. And how many people have been maimed or killed by dogs that hadn't bitten before?

You don't. In the same way you can't tell if the bloke nearby will attack you or run you over. You can apply some common sense though as well as some trust. When I'm walking I can spot the reliable owners and their dogs. That's usually every one of them. Now reactive postmans are different. They'll cause mayhem on a quiet park;-)

Edited by Boosted LS1 on Saturday 11th June 20:16

[lrdisco]

Doofus said:

Yeah, that's not what I said, though, is it.

And it's "you're". "you are".

Grammar Nazi alert. Oh you are so much clever than I is. I is just a bumpkin.
350,000,000 sperm and I won. I is special.

[Doofus]

lrdisco said:

Doofus said:

Yeah, that's not what I said, though, is it.

And it's "you're". "you are".

Grammar Nazi alert. Oh you are so much clever than I is. I is just a bumpkin.
350,000,000 sperm and I won. I is special.

In every argument, the participants can find common ground.

[Antony Moxey]

A500leroy said:

Antony Moxey said:

A500leroy said:

How can any dog no matter how well trained be considered to be under control if its off the lead, dogs have minds of their own and may have a bad day or a sudden 'cough you owner im having this cat/kid/postie' whereas if it was on a lead and had that thought youd always have physical control over it.

If it did attack anyone off the lead the owner is leaving themselves wide open to having the dog destroyed.

You don’t know all dogs or all owners so please stop making things up about them.

Ill leave this for you

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-61756876

Leave what for me? I couldn’t be arsed to read a link that’s more than likely about someone savaged by a dog, but it doesn’t really address my point that you don’t know all dogs or their owners so you shouldn’t make things up about them.

[Wacky Racer]

Super Sonic said:

"He's never done that before!"

That's what the owner of a dog said in 1963 when it ripped part my ten year old cousin's nose off.

Saw her last week, face still looks a mess despite extensive plastic surgery.

[A500leroy]

Antony Moxey said:

A500leroy said:

Antony Moxey said:

A500leroy said:

How can any dog no matter how well trained be considered to be under control if its off the lead, dogs have minds of their own and may have a bad day or a sudden 'cough you owner im having this cat/kid/postie' whereas if it was on a lead and had that thought youd always have physical control over it.

If it did attack anyone off the lead the owner is leaving themselves wide open to having the dog destroyed.

You don’t know all dogs or all owners so please stop making things up about them.

Ill leave this for you

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-61756876

Leave what for me? I couldn’t be arsed to read a link that’s more than likely about someone savaged by a dog, but it doesn’t really address my point that you don’t know all dogs or their owners so you shouldn’t make things up about them.

10 year old killed by a dog off a lead, probably the owner thought they would have control over it but that 000.1% of the time they didnt and now someones kid is dead. but its ok because the owner thought they had control.

Wernt worth not having it on a lead was it?

[SirCarsAllot]

A500leroy said:

Wernt worth not having it on a lead was it?

Wasn’t worth having it off the lead, was it.

[Boosted LS1]

You missed the, ?

[SirCarsAllot]

Boosted LS1 said:

You missed the, ?

Its a statement, not a question, was it?

[Boosted LS1]

SirCarsAllot said:

Its a statement, not a question, was it?

[SirCarsAllot]

Boosted LS1 said:

SirCarsAllot said:

Its a statement, not a question, was it?

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Peak district I've witnessed three times people letting their dog chase through a field of sheep.

I've had people have a go at me because I 'almost hit their dog' with my bicycle.

People who walk their dogs off the lead in a public space are entitled and feel everyone should abide by their rules.

[HTP99]

Hugo Stiglitz said:

Peak district I've witnessed three times people letting their dog chase through a field of sheep.

I've had people have a go at me because I 'almost hit their dog' with my bicycle.

People who walk their dogs off the lead in a public space are entitled and feel everyone should abide by their rules.

Not all dog owners are like this, much like not all cyclists hammer along paths or bridleways expecting everyone on foot to leap out of their way, many do though!!

[Antony Moxey]

A500leroy said:

Antony Moxey said:

A500leroy said:

Antony Moxey said:

A500leroy said:

How can any dog no matter how well trained be considered to be under control if its off the lead, dogs have minds of their own and may have a bad day or a sudden 'cough you owner im having this cat/kid/postie' whereas if it was on a lead and had that thought youd always have physical control over it.

If it did attack anyone off the lead the owner is leaving themselves wide open to having the dog destroyed.

You don’t know all dogs or all owners so please stop making things up about them.

Ill leave this for you

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-61756876

Leave what for me? I couldn’t be arsed to read a link that’s more than likely about someone savaged by a dog, but it doesn’t really address my point that you don’t know all dogs or their owners so you shouldn’t make things up about them.

10 year old killed by a dog off a lead, probably the owner thought they would have control over it but that 000.1% of the time they didnt and now someones kid is dead. but its ok because the owner thought they had control.

Wernt worth not having it on a lead was it?

And? So because of that you’ve extrapolated it to mean every single dog and every single owner. And before you trot out the ‘you never know’ line, you could pretty much trot out that same line for pretty much every single situation anywhere.

[blade7]

Clearly some dog owners don't understand or care about their responsibilities . Dogs aren't robots, and particularly where rescue dogs are concerned, no one knows what in the the dogs past might trigger an attack. Having a dog on a lead isn't cruel, and doesn't stop them getting proper exercise. IMO dogs off lead potentially aren't under control. And the dangerous dog act has that covered.

[stuartmmcfc]

Antony Moxey said:

A500leroy said:

Antony Moxey said:

A500leroy said:

Antony Moxey said:

A500leroy said:

How can any dog no matter how well trained be considered to be under control if its off the lead, dogs have minds of their own and may have a bad day or a sudden 'cough you owner im having this cat/kid/postie' whereas if it was on a lead and had that thought youd always have physical control over it.

If it did attack anyone off the lead the owner is leaving themselves wide open to having the dog destroyed.

You don’t know all dogs or all owners so please stop making things up about them.

Ill leave this for you

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-61756876

Leave what for me? I couldn’t be arsed to read a link that’s more than likely about someone savaged by a dog, but it doesn’t really address my point that you don’t know all dogs or their owners so you shouldn’t make things up about them.

10 year old killed by a dog off a lead, probably the owner thought they would have control over it but that 000.1% of the time they didnt and now someones kid is dead. but its ok because the owner thought they had control.

Wernt worth not having it on a lead was it?

And? So because of that you’ve extrapolated it to mean every single dog and every single owner. And before you trot out the ‘you never know’ line, you could pretty much trot out that same line for pretty much every single situation anywhere.

From the article it seems the attack took place in someone’s house.


The court heard when Jack went into the house not long afterwards, he stroked Beast's head, but the dog jumped up at him and pushed him to the floor. He then began to attack the boy.
A neighbour, Kirk Wiebold, eventually came to help and saw Jack being attacked through a pane of glass in the door.