XL Bully

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Viper201

7,915 posts

145 months

Thursday 4th April
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alabbasi said:
mikebradford said:
I understand people wanting a dog.
However those wanting an aggressive dog should accept if it causes harm they're responsible.
We have a neighbour that walks his 2 big dogs regularly past my house. I'm not sure the breed. However they go mental if they see any other dog. They've also got aggressive with people.
He's a big bloke but struggles to hold them on a leash.

I simply don't understand someone wanting to have that type of issue in their lives.
You don't really sound like a dog person so it's understandable that you don't understand. Dogs getting excited around other dogs is pretty normal and likely more to do with socialization then breed. You might be mistaking their excitement for aggression which is normal for people who aren't dog people.

Many dogs owners owners consider their animals as members of their family. The good mostly outweighs the bad so they put up with the issues. Pretty much any dog between the age of 4 months and 3 years is mental. They grow out of it.
Except Boxers.... biglaugh

HTP99

22,745 posts

142 months

Thursday 4th April
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Mont Blanc said:
mikebradford said:
I understand people wanting a dog.
However those wanting an aggressive dog should accept if it causes harm they're responsible.
We have a neighbour that walks his 2 big dogs regularly past my house. I'm not sure the breed. However they go mental if they see any other dog. They've also got aggressive with people.
He's a big bloke but struggles to hold them on a leash.

I simply don't understand someone wanting to have that type of issue in their lives.
Absolutely baffles me as well. Don't understand it.

People just making their own life harder for absolutely no reason. I know several people who have previously owned things like massive German Shepherds, or those Akita 'Japanese fighting dogs', Rottweilers and so on.

Every time someone came to their house, they would all have to go through this ridiculous performance of yelling through the front door to guests not to come in until they had locked the dog away. They would then spend the next few minutes wrestling a barking dog into a spare room, and then spending the rest of the evening worrying that a guest might open the wrong door and be savaged by their dog.

Walks were worry-filled affairs wrestling to control the dogs whilst they strained at the lead.

I know all dogs can bite or be bad tempered, but you would have to be an imbecile to not realise that many breeds are bred to be larger, more aggressive, and so on. Just get something else if you want a pet.
A friend of ours re-homed a Collie, the dog is absolutely mental and cannot be trusted.

She walks it at 5 am so as not to encounter any other dogs as it goes batst mental, their son won't go round with the grandchild if the dog isn't shut away, we went round for dinner once, we were told to not approach or acknowledge it, only acknowledge it when it acknowledges us first, another friend of ours refuses to go round.

It has seen a dog behaviourist, he was scared of it, didn't trust it at all.

I'm a dog lover myself, I've 3 dogs, I just don't see the attraction of owning a dog like that.

ChocolateFrog

26,074 posts

175 months

Thursday 4th April
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Absolute liability it sounds like.

There could be a child hanging off each ear and the tail of my dog and he wouldn't react aggressively.

He wouldn't be in the family if he did.

My sister got over 100 stitches in her head from her rehomed dog, just don't risk it.

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 4th April
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HTP99 said:
Mont Blanc said:
mikebradford said:
I understand people wanting a dog.
However those wanting an aggressive dog should accept if it causes harm they're responsible.
We have a neighbour that walks his 2 big dogs regularly past my house. I'm not sure the breed. However they go mental if they see any other dog. They've also got aggressive with people.
He's a big bloke but struggles to hold them on a leash.

I simply don't understand someone wanting to have that type of issue in their lives.
Absolutely baffles me as well. Don't understand it.

People just making their own life harder for absolutely no reason. I know several people who have previously owned things like massive German Shepherds, or those Akita 'Japanese fighting dogs', Rottweilers and so on.

Every time someone came to their house, they would all have to go through this ridiculous performance of yelling through the front door to guests not to come in until they had locked the dog away. They would then spend the next few minutes wrestling a barking dog into a spare room, and then spending the rest of the evening worrying that a guest might open the wrong door and be savaged by their dog.

Walks were worry-filled affairs wrestling to control the dogs whilst they strained at the lead.

I know all dogs can bite or be bad tempered, but you would have to be an imbecile to not realise that many breeds are bred to be larger, more aggressive, and so on. Just get something else if you want a pet.
A friend of ours re-homed a Collie, the dog is absolutely mental and cannot be trusted.

She walks it at 5 am so as not to encounter any other dogs as it goes batst mental, their son won't go round with the grandchild if the dog isn't shut away, we went round for dinner once, we were told to not approach or acknowledge it, only acknowledge it when it acknowledges us first, another friend of ours refuses to go round.

It has seen a dog behaviourist, he was scared of it, didn't trust it at all.

I'm a dog lover myself, I've 3 dogs, I just don't see the attraction of owning a dog like that.
Collies are very hit and miss. I've never come across a bad one, they've all been lovely but have heard the odd issue now and then with bad behaviour. They're a very hard working and driven breed and you need to exercise the hell out of them to keep them on the straight and narrow.

Everyone should just get Great Danes. I have two with a combined weight of 23 stone and they're no problem to take out by myself.... laugh

Viper201

7,915 posts

145 months

Thursday 4th April
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pocketspring said:
Collies are very hit and miss. I've never come across a bad one, they've all been lovely but have heard the odd issue now and then with bad behaviour. They're a very hard working and driven breed and you need to exercise the hell out of them to keep them on the straight and narrow.

Everyone should just get Great Danes. I have two with a combined weight of 23 stone and they're no problem to take out by myself.... laugh
And there's the problem with collies. Too many in modern households with owners at work during the day and the dog will get his one hour of 'exercise' consisting of a stroll around the area on a lead. The dog is bored stupid with masses of pent up energy.

MightyBadger

2,338 posts

52 months

Friday 5th April
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ChocolateFrog said:
Absolute liability it sounds like.

There could be a child hanging off each ear and the tail of my dog and he wouldn't react aggressively.

He wouldn't be in the family if he did.
Pretty sure that's what the family of that young girl thought until the day she tried to sit on the xl and it didn't want her too. RIP.

Thevet

1,791 posts

235 months

Saturday 6th April
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pocketspring said:
Everyone should just get Great Danes. I have two with a combined weight of 23 stone and they're no problem to take out by myself.... laugh
An old contact of mine was badly savaged by a great dane back in the early 90s, much worse than a collie, of which I have met some nasty ones, especially from a particular family/line chosen for their defensive nature and ability to deter unwanted visitors.
So, any breed can be grumpy, it's just worse when they are bigger than most of the population.
Had to deal with a cane corso for the police this week......what a terrifying hound that was frown

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 6th April
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Thevet said:
pocketspring said:
Everyone should just get Great Danes. I have two with a combined weight of 23 stone and they're no problem to take out by myself.... laugh
An old contact of mine was badly savaged by a great dane back in the early 90s, much worse than a collie, of which I have met some nasty ones, especially from a particular family/line chosen for their defensive nature and ability to deter unwanted visitors.
So, any breed can be grumpy, it's just worse when they are bigger than most of the population.
Had to deal with a cane corso for the police this week......what a terrifying hound that was frown
Sorry to hear that. I've been around Great Danes over 35 years and haven't heard of an attack before. Certainly not saying it hasn't happened because as you say, any breed can be grumpy. As you probably know, GD's were bred from the Mastiff breed but to have the temperament bred out of them. Of course, it won't be a 100% relaible! But just out of interest, since the early 90's, have you heard of any other GD attacks?
Cane Corso's are just GD's on steroids! boxedin

Viper201

7,915 posts

145 months

Saturday 6th April
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pocketspring said:
Thevet said:
pocketspring said:
Everyone should just get Great Danes. I have two with a combined weight of 23 stone and they're no problem to take out by myself.... laugh
An old contact of mine was badly savaged by a great dane back in the early 90s, much worse than a collie, of which I have met some nasty ones, especially from a particular family/line chosen for their defensive nature and ability to deter unwanted visitors.
So, any breed can be grumpy, it's just worse when they are bigger than most of the population.
Had to deal with a cane corso for the police this week......what a terrifying hound that was frown
Sorry to hear that. I've been around Great Danes over 35 years and haven't heard of an attack before. Certainly not saying it hasn't happened because as you say, any breed can be grumpy. As you probably know, GD's were bred from the Mastiff breed but to have the temperament bred out of them. Of course, it won't be a 100% relaible! But just out of interest, since the early 90's, have you heard of any other GD attacks?
Cane Corso's are just GD's on steroids! boxedin
A quick Google search shows quite a lot of attacks by Danes, mainly, but not all, in the U.S. Their popularity seems to be at an all time low, decreasing by 62% over the last 50 years.

The video in the link is not pleasant. It shows 2 Staffies attacking a Great Dane that was wearing a muzzle.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BanPitBulls/comments/1457...

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 6th April
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Viper201 said:
pocketspring said:
Thevet said:
pocketspring said:
Everyone should just get Great Danes. I have two with a combined weight of 23 stone and they're no problem to take out by myself.... laugh
An old contact of mine was badly savaged by a great dane back in the early 90s, much worse than a collie, of which I have met some nasty ones, especially from a particular family/line chosen for their defensive nature and ability to deter unwanted visitors.
So, any breed can be grumpy, it's just worse when they are bigger than most of the population.
Had to deal with a cane corso for the police this week......what a terrifying hound that was frown
Sorry to hear that. I've been around Great Danes over 35 years and haven't heard of an attack before. Certainly not saying it hasn't happened because as you say, any breed can be grumpy. As you probably know, GD's were bred from the Mastiff breed but to have the temperament bred out of them. Of course, it won't be a 100% relaible! But just out of interest, since the early 90's, have you heard of any other GD attacks?
Cane Corso's are just GD's on steroids! boxedin
A quick Google search shows quite a lot of attacks by Danes, mainly, but not all, in the U.S. Their popularity seems to be at an all time low, decreasing by 62% over the last 50 years.

The video in the link is not pleasant. It shows 2 Staffies attacking a Great Dane that was wearing a muzzle.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BanPitBulls/comments/1457...
I'm not going to watch that.

I think also properties nowadays are a lot smaller which helps contribute to the decline of the GD.
Sticking my neck out, the US are a bit clueless with the ear cropping and use of spiked collars. I'd be quite angry as well! laugh

Anyway, going OT here so back to the XL bully thread.

Slow.Patrol

588 posts

16 months

Sunday 28th April
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And still they come

Woman 'seriously hurt' by bully-type dog and taken to hospital

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13358299/...


rossub

4,562 posts

192 months

Sunday 28th April
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… and yet another Council House Street.

alabbasi

2,522 posts

89 months

Sunday 28th April
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Slow.Patrol said:
And still they come

Woman 'seriously hurt' by bully-type dog and taken to hospital

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13358299/...



Ahh, a bully type dog. I guess that's one with four legs and a tail.



spookly

4,055 posts

97 months

Monday 29th April
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pocketspring said:
Collies are very hit and miss. I've never come across a bad one, they've all been lovely but have heard the odd issue now and then with bad behaviour. They're a very hard working and driven breed and you need to exercise the hell out of them to keep them on the straight and narrow.

Everyone should just get Great Danes. I have two with a combined weight of 23 stone and they're no problem to take out by myself.... laugh
My two Danes walk into town off lead. In the pub all night off lead. Never bitten anyone.
But the big boy has felled quite a few blokes with a tail to the nuts.

eldar

21,925 posts

198 months

Monday 13th May
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Imprisonment for owner and person in charge following child attack.

Man and mother jailed over XL bully attack on boy, 8 https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1ejjz3jv5xo

bmwmike

7,045 posts

110 months

Monday 13th May
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eldar said:
Imprisonment for owner and person in charge following child attack.

Man and mother jailed over XL bully attack on boy, 8 https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1ejjz3jv5xo
Not long enough but at least its something. Hope they have a really, really tough time in the clink.


Caddyshack

11,051 posts

208 months

Monday 13th May
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I managed to chop the top off my little finger 10 days ago, I had to go back to the amazing hand hospital in East Grinstead today, I met a chap who had both hands in plaster, as did his wife and 1 police officer…his Bully attacked his wife and he tried to fend it off, it looks like one of his hands may not be saved, the other was covered in puncture wounds, his wife was not as bad but pretty damaged…he had it 6 years from a pup with no problems at all. The police destroyed it after it attacked one of them.

abzmike

8,650 posts

108 months

Monday 20th May
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Woman in her 50s killed in Romford by a lovely family pet… registered apparently, oddly that doesn’t seem to have changed the nature of the animal.

Bighoose

57 posts

38 months

Monday 20th May
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abzmike said:
Woman in her 50s killed in Romford by a lovely family pet… registered apparently, oddly that doesn’t seem to have changed the nature of the animal.
It's Incredible that people are still fighting to have the very tame ban, which is really just a registration scheme that goes nowhere near far enough, overturned.

As terrible as yet another death is, at least it's the owner and not an innocent member of the public or another kid.

These things should be culled.

bmwmike

7,045 posts

110 months

Monday 20th May
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Bighoose said:
It's Incredible that people are still fighting to have the very tame ban, which is really just a registration scheme that goes nowhere near far enough, overturned.

As terrible as yet another death is, at least it's the owner and not an innocent member of the public or another kid.

These things should be culled.
Yep, small mercy. They need to start cranking up the sentences for owning these things when they go mauly. And cull em, agreed.