How do dogs think

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AlexC1981

4,929 posts

218 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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lancslad58 said:
...I’m intrigued as to how dog’s think, is there a “doggie language” they think in or is it some kind of good/not so good/bad portions of their brain that associates its feeling to?...
Like an internal monologue? A large portion of humans don't have an internal monologue, something I find quite fascinating. I don't suppose dogs have one.


Scabutz

7,647 posts

81 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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I'm amazed at the things our dog picks up on. She can recognise the sound of our car coming down the road and runs to great my wife returning from work. She knew on Tuesdays my wife goes out, comes back and then her friend who throws her ball tirelessly for her comes to visit. She knows when it's evening and no one is cooking that takeaway is on the way and so waits staring at the door to bark at the delivery person.

When we take her out for walks she pulls to her favourite places ( the river, the pet shop).

She has a fair few words and phrases she recognises.

All that but being a springer spaniel acts like a tt most of the time.

BoRED S2upid

19,717 posts

241 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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It does make you think that as humans we are pretty st. Can’t see in the dark our smell is rubbish as is the hearing without a watch / calendar I wouldn’t really know what day or hour it was and I can’t lock my own bits oh I also don’t have antiseptic saliva do can’t self heal like a dog can.

Scabutz

7,647 posts

81 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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BoRED S2upid said:
It does make you think that as humans we are pretty st. Can’t see in the dark our smell is rubbish as is the hearing without a watch / calendar I wouldn’t really know what day or hour it was and I can’t lock my own bits oh I also don’t have antiseptic saliva do can’t self heal like a dog can.
There are skills in the animal kingdom that really do make us look ste. The strength of a gorilla, the speed of a cheetah. Some birds ofnprey have eyesight so good that in human terms it would enable us to see an ant on the pavement from 10 stories high.

Of course we have the enormous brain power ( some of us) which is a huge advantage

djc206

12,374 posts

126 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Scabutz said:
I'm amazed at the things our dog picks up on. She can recognise the sound of our car coming down the road and runs to great my wife returning from work. She knew on Tuesdays my wife goes out, comes back and then her friend who throws her ball tirelessly for her comes to visit. She knows when it's evening and no one is cooking that takeaway is on the way and so waits staring at the door to bark at the delivery person.

When we take her out for walks she pulls to her favourite places ( the river, the pet shop).

She has a fair few words and phrases she recognises.

All that but being a springer spaniel acts like a tt most of the time.
One of our dogs knows egg in 4 languages. She bloody loves eggs.

BritishBlitz87

658 posts

49 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Scabutz said:
There are skills in the animal kingdom that really do make us look ste. The strength of a gorilla, the speed of a cheetah. Some birds ofnprey have eyesight so good that in human terms it would enable us to see an ant on the pavement from 10 stories high.

Of course we have the enormous brain power ( some of us) which is a huge advantage
Yes, given the choice between a) the speed of a Cheetah and the strength of a gorilla and b) The speed and strength of a trained rally driver in a Toyota Hilux with a soldier manning a 50 cal Browning , I would be putting my money on us.

Our superskills are teamwork and weaponising nature for our own benefit smile

dillenger

433 posts

200 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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Not sure if its mine what is super clever or all working cockers, but he knows every word I say.

Wakes up do you need to go out…I’ll get ball.
You hungry…I’ll get ball.
You want to go for a walk…I’ll get ball.
Doorbell rings…I’ll get ball.
Time for bed…I’ll get ball.




you ready for hallowen vin...i'll get ball

ooo000ooo

2,532 posts

195 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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colin_p said:
There are quite a few 'sitehound' breeds that have incredibly good eyesite.

My Collie cross can spot a deer from a lon long way away. But he won't watch telly, even when I put a utube up of squirrels.
Our Lurcher can spot the slightest movement way in the distance but throw a ball for her and she doesn't spot it in flight she'll walk past it in the grass no matter how brightly coloured it is.
I'm sure she has about 10 brain cells, 8 of them are for running very fast the other 2 are for detecting the opening of a pack of crisps anywhere within a 100m radius.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,416 posts

151 months

Sunday 15th October 2023
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LimaDelta said:
Last week the OH took the dog out into the garden and walked to the edge of the woods, but wouldn't go in as she didn't have her boots on. She stopped, the dog stopped. Dog looked at her shoes, then at her in a disapproving way, then back at her shoes, then sat down.
I think a lot of the intelligence we attribute to dogs is imagined, and perhaps they just aren't as bright as we'd like to believe.

To be honest, I don't believe the dog looked at your OH in a "disapproving way". I think that's what your OH had read into the situation and relayed it to you. I'm not even convinced a dog is capable of making the link between the type of shoes worn and what activities they would allow.

But I guess none of us know for sure.

LimaDelta

6,533 posts

219 months

Sunday 15th October 2023
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
LimaDelta said:
Last week the OH took the dog out into the garden and walked to the edge of the woods, but wouldn't go in as she didn't have her boots on. She stopped, the dog stopped. Dog looked at her shoes, then at her in a disapproving way, then back at her shoes, then sat down.
I think a lot of the intelligence we attribute to dogs is imagined, and perhaps they just aren't as bright as we'd like to believe.

To be honest, I don't believe the dog looked at your OH in a "disapproving way". I think that's what your OH had read into the situation and relayed it to you. I'm not even convinced a dog is capable of making the link between the type of shoes worn and what activities they would allow.

But I guess none of us know for sure.
Anthropomorphising is a thing, for sure, but when you live with an animal, you learn to read expressions, just like you would in your own children. 'They' say an intelligent dog (ours is a Border Collie, supposedly one of the smartest, but whoever thinks that clearly hasn't met mine) is capable of recognising several hundred words, and at it's peak is as smart as a human 5-year old. They have good vision, and a reasonable problem solvers. I'm sure it is not beyond the realms of possibility that he is able to differentiate between shoes, or at least have an association that 'tall green feet = long walk & play in the stream' and 'small brightly coloured feet = short walk in the orchard'.

cookie1600

2,127 posts

162 months

Sunday 15th October 2023
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I suspect with dogs things have to fall into three categories, is it:

Food
Friend
Fun

Rh14n

944 posts

109 months

Sunday 15th October 2023
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LimaDelta said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
LimaDelta said:
Last week the OH took the dog out into the garden and walked to the edge of the woods, but wouldn't go in as she didn't have her boots on. She stopped, the dog stopped. Dog looked at her shoes, then at her in a disapproving way, then back at her shoes, then sat down.
I think a lot of the intelligence we attribute to dogs is imagined, and perhaps they just aren't as bright as we'd like to believe.

To be honest, I don't believe the dog looked at your OH in a "disapproving way". I think that's what your OH had read into the situation and relayed it to you. I'm not even convinced a dog is capable of making the link between the type of shoes worn and what activities they would allow.

But I guess none of us know for sure.
Anthropomorphising is a thing, for sure, but when you live with an animal, you learn to read expressions, just like you would in your own children. 'They' say an intelligent dog (ours is a Border Collie, supposedly one of the smartest, but whoever thinks that clearly hasn't met mine) is capable of recognising several hundred words, and at it's peak is as smart as a human 5-year old. They have good vision, and a reasonable problem solvers. I'm sure it is not beyond the realms of possibility that he is able to differentiate between shoes, or at least have an association that 'tall green feet = long walk & play in the stream' and 'small brightly coloured feet = short walk in the orchard'.
My Springer definitely does the 'shoe' thing. If I go to the under-stairs cupboard where our shoes are he'll come and watch. If I pick up any shoes other than my dog-walking shoes he doesn't bother, but if I choose my walking shoes he goes nuts, bouncing around and heads for the front door.

Edited by Rh14n on Sunday 15th October 19:53

Cheib

23,286 posts

176 months

Sunday 15th October 2023
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BoRED S2upid said:
Cotty said:
super7 said:
As far as the telly is concerned, they all watch it. I did hear somewhere that they never used to be able to see old CRT based TV's because the refresh rate of the screen made it impossible to decipher. With modern LCD panels with 100mhz plus refresh rates, they now see what we see (but in there doggy way!)
Do dogs have poor eyesight generally. I often see dogs when I am out walking and it appears they hear me, freeze and stare towards me. Its like they heard something but can't see what caused the noise.
Yeah I think so hearing and smell at 11 sight right down there IMO.
A friend of mine has a four year old German Shepherd that is totally blind…absolutely incredible dog. I’ve walked him a couple of times….he is able to navigate through woodlands etc in a way you would not believe. I keep him on a lead but he can walk along a meandering path, avoids tree roots, avoids ferns etc and obviously trees. In their house he’s clearly got the whole place mapped in his head but if they’re other dog is lying down just walks over him like he’s got perfect eyesight.

AFAIK dogs see shapes more than detail. My old dog used to “take exception” to people with big coast, big hats, large pack packs etc

One day I was walking him in a park, bloke had a big overcoat on. My dog started barking at him, I apologised….he then told me he had a prosthetic arm and lots of dogs barked at him. How on earth they sense things like that is beyond me.

Glassman

22,558 posts

216 months

Sunday 15th October 2023
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Dogs are neurotic.

Slowboathome

3,374 posts

45 months

Sunday 15th October 2023
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LimaDelta said:
Anthropomorphising is a thing, for sure, but when you live with an animal, you learn to read expressions, just like you would in your own children. 'They' say an intelligent dog (ours is a Border Collie, supposedly one of the smartest, but whoever thinks that clearly hasn't met mine) is capable of recognising several hundred words, and at it's peak is as smart as a human 5-year old. They have good vision, and a reasonable problem solvers. I'm sure it is not beyond the realms of possibility that he is able to differentiate between shoes, or at least have an association that 'tall green feet = long walk & play in the stream' and 'small brightly coloured feet = short walk in the orchard'.
There are dogs, and then there are border collies.

Jugosaurus

95 posts

45 months

Sunday 15th October 2023
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Can I sniff it?
Can I lick it?
Can I eat it?

Ohhh someone talked to me! Must be time for a treat!

Where have you gone? Oh there you are! Must be time for a treat!

That’s my Labrador anyway!

Slowboathome

3,374 posts

45 months

Sunday 15th October 2023
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Jugosaurus said:
Can I sniff it?
Can I lick it?
Can I eat it?

Ohhh someone talked to me! Must be time for a treat!

Where have you gone? Oh there you are! Must be time for a treat!

That’s my Labrador anyway!
Exactly the same here. She rarely looks at my face, usually preferring to focus her gaze on my left pocket which is where the treats are.

I'm beginning to understand how women with big breasts feel,

The Gauge

1,941 posts

14 months

Sunday 15th October 2023
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Some breeds are regarded as more intelligent than others, such as working breeds etc. I wonder if the less intelligent breeds are actually chuckling away at them, wondering why they are doing so much work for their human instead of being lazy like them.

Maybe the non working breeds are actually more intelligent for realising this? Or are they the social underclass similar to council dwelling idle dole cheat scum?

towser44

3,496 posts

116 months

Sunday 15th October 2023
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Scabutz said:
I'm amazed at the things our dog picks up on. She can recognise the sound of our car coming down the road and runs to great my wife returning from work. She knew on Tuesdays my wife goes out, comes back and then her friend who throws her ball tirelessly for her comes to visit. She knows when it's evening and no one is cooking that takeaway is on the way and so waits staring at the door to bark at the delivery person.

When we take her out for walks she pulls to her favourite places ( the river, the pet shop).

She has a fair few words and phrases she recognises.

All that but being a springer spaniel acts like a tt most of the time.
Ours is the same re the car, she can hear the sound of the Mrs car coming and starts whining and goes to the door. Weirdly, the Mrs walks home from work 3 nights a week and somehow the dog knows when she is coming up the road, despite there being no sound and she can't see her coming! It's roughly the same time every night so perhaps it is a time thing, but it can be a few minutes out and she still knows. Fascinates me how she knows!

Thats What She Said

1,153 posts

89 months

Sunday 15th October 2023
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towser44 said:
Ours is the same re the car, she can hear the sound of the Mrs car coming and starts whining and goes to the door. Weirdly, the Mrs walks home from work 3 nights a week and somehow the dog knows when she is coming up the road, despite there being no sound and she can't see her coming! It's roughly the same time every night so perhaps it is a time thing, but it can be a few minutes out and she still knows. Fascinates me how she knows!
I remember seeing a programme on the TV a few years ago that covered this.

They were surmising that when the humans left the house their scent slowly dissapates. If they return to house at roughly the same time every day, the dog see's the pattern. So the dog knows that when the scent gets to a certain level, the human will return soon.