Should I shoot my dog?

[SPR2]

I hope Steve settles with his new family. Most unusual for springers to be aggresive.Will you keep in touch with them?
Both lovely dogs maybe just not compatible with each other.

Edited by SPR2 on Monday 11th February 17:50

[dave_s13]

SPR2 said:

I hope Steve settles with his new family. Most unusual for springers to be aggresive.Will you keep in touch with them?

We used to get messaged passed along from a family member on our side that knew the family, as far as we are aware he is doing very well and they never had any problems with him, ever. Been with them 3yrs+.

[SPR2]

dave_s13 said:

We used to get messaged passed along from a family member on our side that knew the family, as far as we are aware he is doing very well and they never had any problems with him, ever. Been with them 3yrs+.

That is good to hear - Thanks

[highflyer]

Dave read the thread I wasn't aiming it at you, I was just saying that this used to be Great Britain but due to all the unemployed foreigners here and all the benefits they claim that we tax payers pay for, it isn't so Great anymore, and before its said, yes I would emigrate but where do you go ?
Sorry to hear about Pete, and Steve looks a lovely dog, hope it works out with the new owners.
And yes slant eyes are the cruelest to animals.

[Superficial]

dave_s13 said:

Says the individual posting on a motoring forum who never seems to venture from subjects relating to cats and fireplaces. I take it you're single?

Well done for proving my point. You're backed up in a corner and have gone way off topic grasping at straws. I post on topics I feel I can offer advice on, anything else I'm here to learn about. Unlike maybe some female members of the forum I do actually enjoy going to motoring & motorcycle shows, meets and clubs but I'm not going to comment on topics when people with more knowledge/ experience have already replied.

But this isn't really about me or my posts on here, is it? It's about you and your behaviour towards an animal. Normally I'd say it's irresponsible to pass the problem on, but I'm genuinely pleased the dog went to a new home, would have been better to have gone via the ESS rescue (who are amazing at what they do) but hey ho.

CAPP0 said:

For your future reference, pulling two (or more) dogs who are fighting apart as you describe is entirely the wrong thing to do. If the dog you're pulling decides not to let go of the other dog then all you are going to do is either bring the second dog with you, or worse, pull a large lump of the other dog away, attached to Dog 1's jaws.

If you're going to physically separate them you should ALWAYS do this by LIFTING the biting dog; either use it's collar, or it's scruff. The act of lifting will cause the dog to release (usually in surprise). Then, and only then, can you pull the aggressor away.

You're right, I'm getting confused about that technique having never had to use it myself. You're meant to separate the dogs by holding their hindquarters, but also lifting them in the technique I was talking about.

'both dogs should have their hindquarters lifted off the ground - like you would move a wheelbarrow - and then be dragged backwards by the tail. This will confuse the dogs and may cause them to relax their grip on each other. If the hindquarters are not lifted first, the dog may anchor itself by its front feet. Further injuries can then be caused to the other dog. In dogs without tails, the hind legs should not be substituted for the tail, as the dog can easily turn around and bite the person holding it. Grabbing the head or shoulders of one or both dogs is dangerous unless the person doing so can get directly behind the dog's shoulders and has the strength to control its head.'

Source: http://agilitynet.co.uk/training/dogfights_timgrif...

[ali_kat]

Why is it that there are people that chose to read the OP a certain way; one that is different to the majority of the posters?

This thread was from 2007 FFS!

[dave_s13]

Superficial said:

You're right, I'm getting confused about that technique having never had to use it myself. You're meant to separate the dogs by holding their hindquarters, but also lifting them in the technique I was talking about.

'both dogs should have their hindquarters lifted off the ground - like you would move a wheelbarrow - and then be dragged backwards by the tail. This will confuse the dogs and may cause them to relax their grip on each other. If the hindquarters are not lifted first, the dog may anchor itself by its front feet. Further injuries can then be caused to the other dog. In dogs without tails, the hind legs should not be substituted for the tail, as the dog can easily turn around and bite the person holding it. Grabbing the head or shoulders of one or both dogs is dangerous unless the person doing so can get directly behind the dog's shoulders and has the strength to control its head.'

Source: http://agilitynet.co.uk/training/dogfights_timgrif...

i would pay money to see you, on your own, separate 2 fighting dogs with said "wheelbarrow" technique, FFS a proper dog mash up is a fking brutal thing to witness, scary too. Says it on the internet though so it must be true.

You also called me a cu5t you crazy cat woman.

I suspect the only way to get you to stop responding to this thread would be to drag you way from your keyboard by the ankles, so I'll leave it there ta very much.

Thank you so much for your useful input.

[General Price]

dave_s13 said:

i would pay money to see you, on your own, separate 2 fighting dogs with said "wheelbarrow" technique, FFS a proper dog mash up is a fking brutal thing to witness, scary too. Says it on the internet though so it must be true.

You also called me a cu5t you crazy cat woman.

I suspect the only way to get you to stop responding to this thread would be to drag you way from your keyboard by the ankles, so I'll leave it there ta very much.

Thank you so much for your useful input.

This is the internet,fool.People can do everything they say.

Got to go,I'm off to kill a police alsatian by pulling it's front legs apart and bursting it's heart.

[General Price]

dave_s13 said:

Old photo links broken..

Heres Pete BTW



RIP Pete

Did Pete have a marijuana habit?

Sorry about the wee dog,always liked Jack Russells.

[Superficial]

ali_kat said:

Why is it that there are people that chose to read the OP a certain way; one that is different to the majority of the posters?

This thread was from 2007 FFS!

Life would be very boring if we were all the same. I and the others who have commented in the same vein haven't read the post any differently to the plain English the OP posted in it. Even on the first page someone pointed out to the OP it may not be received in the best way.

Don't see the relevance in the year it was posted, what happened, happened. Should we forget all animal cruelty after X amount of time? You did it a day/month/year ago so don't worry about it now mate.

dave_s13 said:

i would pay money to see you, on your own, separate 2 fighting dogs with said "wheelbarrow" technique, FFS a proper dog mash up is a fking brutal thing to witness, scary too. Says it on the internet though so it must be true.

You also called me a cu5t you crazy cat woman.

I suspect the only way to get you to stop responding to this thread would be to drag you way from your keyboard by the ankles, so I'll leave it there ta very much.

Thank you so much for your useful input.

Yes, dog fights are horrendously scary, what is your point? As with all things in life, there is still a right and wrong way to deal with them. Agiltynet is a credible website, but you don't like being told you should have done better, so it must be wrong .

You are a . Along with anyone else who thinks it's acceptable to 'lamp the living st' out of an animal to the point they were at risk of 'permanently damaging' it.

Just a crazy cat lady? I have the same amount of dogs too. Crazy cat-dog lady thank you

[ali_kat]

My point was, you are reading it wrong

There was no cruelty to either dog from their owner.

Not in 2007 & not now!

And now, like the OP, this thread has been put on ignore by me, for the same reason.

[bexVN]

Sorry too hear about Pete, he looks like he was a true character . RIP Pete.

Glad to see you managed to settle Steve into a new home.

[boobles]

I know it was 2007 & all that but the OP was very lucky that the dog didn't stick up for itself because there would have been only one winner!

[PugwasHDJ80]

Superficial said:

ali_kat said:

Why is it that there are people that chose to read the OP a certain way; one that is different to the majority of the posters?

This thread was from 2007 FFS!

Life would be very boring if we were all the same. I and the others who have commented in the same vein haven't read the post any differently to the plain English the OP posted in it. Even on the first page someone pointed out to the OP it may not be received in the best way.

Don't see the relevance in the year it was posted, what happened, happened. Should we forget all animal cruelty after X amount of time? You did it a day/month/year ago so don't worry about it now mate.

dave_s13 said:

i would pay money to see you, on your own, separate 2 fighting dogs with said "wheelbarrow" technique, FFS a proper dog mash up is a fking brutal thing to witness, scary too. Says it on the internet though so it must be true.

You also called me a cu5t you crazy cat woman.

I suspect the only way to get you to stop responding to this thread would be to drag you way from your keyboard by the ankles, so I'll leave it there ta very much.

Thank you so much for your useful input.

Yes, dog fights are horrendously scary, what is your point? As with all things in life, there is still a right and wrong way to deal with them. Agiltynet is a credible website, but you don't like being told you should have done better, so it must be wrong .

You are a . Along with anyone else who thinks it's acceptable to 'lamp the living st' out of an animal to the point they were at risk of 'permanently damaging' it.

Just a crazy cat lady? I have the same amount of dogs too. Crazy cat-dog lady thank you

Oh wow are you actually a little bit retarded?

Your response to a dog biting a baby would be what for example?try and separate them? Speak nicely to the dog?

If my very much loved dog bit my wife to break skin in an unprovoked attack then I would, for the first time in my life, beat it. If it attacked my 4 month old daughter (or anyone else's child) I would personally kill it. I would mourn for months afterwards, but I would have doe the right thing.

I have never had to physically touch or even raise my hand in the air to my dog(who wouldn't know what it meant), but I would if I had to.

There is a massive gulf between abusing animals and doing what it takes to keep people safe. I fear that the only on here is you fior wilfully failing to see the difference in order to satisfy your own petty and immature games.