Battery chickens

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Japveesix

4,480 posts

168 months

Sunday 4th July 2010
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EvoBarry said:
Japveesix said:
EvoBarry said:
Good on you for doing what you can, I'm a sucker for this kind of thing. Unfortunately I think if I brought some home nature would soon follow its course and my two adult cats would have a feast on their hands frown
Unless you have some seriously badass bengals or similar then I'd be amazed if they'd have a hope against a flock of 3+ chickens.

My cat is big (he's definitely king of the road) and he goes well ought of his way to avoid the chooks smile
Hmm, interesting. Would the mere presence of cats not stress the poor things though? I quite like the idea of fresh eggs biggrin
Don't think so, many (probably most) farms with chickens have cats hanging around anyway and I think the two generally avoid eahc other. When ours first saw the cat they looked slightly nervous and clucked a bit, then within about a day or so they realise he was scared of them and no threat and now they just shove him out the way if they want to go somewhere.

Chickens can hold their own against many things, see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXYjPHujPho&fea...

working class

8,852 posts

187 months

Sunday 4th July 2010
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I wish you lived by me, I eat alot of eggs each week. A friend of a friend at work sells lovely free range eggs, he has about 20 hens.

I pay £2.20 for a dozen and I have to return the boxes. Only thing ive noticed between supermarket free range and his free range, is his eggs, the yolks are a really dark orange colour. yum

remedy

1,647 posts

191 months

Sunday 4th July 2010
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EvoBarry said:
Japveesix said:
EvoBarry said:
Good on you for doing what you can, I'm a sucker for this kind of thing. Unfortunately I think if I brought some home nature would soon follow its course and my two adult cats would have a feast on their hands frown
Unless you have some seriously badass bengals or similar then I'd be amazed if they'd have a hope against a flock of 3+ chickens.

My cat is big (he's definitely king of the road) and he goes well ought of his way to avoid the chooks smile
Hmm, interesting. Would the mere presence of cats not stress the poor things though? I quite like the idea of fresh eggs biggrin
Ha, you'd think so wouldn't you.

My parents keep about 8-12 chickens of all sizes and types and my 9 year old, 7 stone golden retriever doesn't bat an eyelid as he wanders through them and they are just as indifferent to him. I find it fascinating to watch considering how terratorial he is yet he doesn't give a hoot about chickens!

Sorry, 40kg is around 7 stone not 9.

Edited by remedy on Sunday 4th July 17:18

FunkyNige

8,883 posts

275 months

Sunday 4th July 2010
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working class said:
the yolks are a really dark orange colour. yum
Even in winter? The school I used to work at had chickens and I used to take the eggs home, but they were only orange in the summer months when they were grass fed (and they tasted so much better!).

schmalex

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13,616 posts

206 months

Sunday 4th July 2010
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EvoBarry said:
Good on you for doing what you can, I'm a sucker for this kind of thing. Unfortunately I think if I brought some home nature would soon follow its course and my two adult cats would have a feast on their hands frown
We have 3 cats, all of which are prolific hunters & all of which are st scared of any of the chickens we have had.

working class

8,852 posts

187 months

Sunday 4th July 2010
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FunkyNige said:
working class said:
the yolks are a really dark orange colour. yum
Even in winter? The school I used to work at had chickens and I used to take the eggs home, but they were only orange in the summer months when they were grass fed (and they tasted so much better!).
Ive never bought them in the winter, only just started getting them the last 3 weeks or so!

FlossyThePig

4,083 posts

243 months

Monday 5th July 2010
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working class said:
Only thing ive noticed between supermarket free range and his free range, is his eggs, the yolks are a really dark orange colour. yum
A story not related to our hens. A few years ago I worked with a chap who kept hens who said that when he saw them eating dog poo (bowdlerised text) he new the yolks would have a deeper colour!
Edited because of the censor

Edited by FlossyThePig on Monday 5th July 08:13

Jasandjules

69,890 posts

229 months

Monday 5th July 2010
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FlossyThePig said:
A story not related to our hens. A few years ago I worked with a chap who kept hens who said that when he saw them eating dog poo (bowdlerised text) he new the yolks would have a deeper colour!
And he still ate them?

cal72

7,839 posts

170 months

Monday 5th July 2010
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I try to buy products that have been produced from good enviroment but sometimes my budget won't stretch to it and i buy the cheaper stuff.There is a big difference between the quality ot the products but the cost difference is not that great a margine so i able to buy more from my local farm shop than my local netto.

tenex

1,010 posts

168 months

Monday 5th July 2010
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Jasandjules said:
FlossyThePig said:
A story not related to our hens. A few years ago I worked with a chap who kept hens who said that when he saw them eating dog poo (bowdlerised text) he new the yolks would have a deeper colour!
And he still ate them?
It always amuses me when I see eggs advertised from free range hens fed on a vegetarian diet.
If they are really free range (as my few are) they will eat anything.
Road-kill especially with maggots, live mice/voles, sheep afterbirth and all sorts of dung flies seem to top the bill.

Their eggs are really beautiful to eat!

Basically they are pretty vicious especially as a group. I saw my neighbour's lot kill a hen pheasant that came too close.

schmalex

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13,616 posts

206 months

Monday 5th July 2010
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Japveesix said:
EvoBarry said:
Japveesix said:
EvoBarry said:
Good on you for doing what you can, I'm a sucker for this kind of thing. Unfortunately I think if I brought some home nature would soon follow its course and my two adult cats would have a feast on their hands frown
Unless you have some seriously badass bengals or similar then I'd be amazed if they'd have a hope against a flock of 3+ chickens.

My cat is big (he's definitely king of the road) and he goes well ought of his way to avoid the chooks smile
Hmm, interesting. Would the mere presence of cats not stress the poor things though? I quite like the idea of fresh eggs biggrin
Don't think so, many (probably most) farms with chickens have cats hanging around anyway and I think the two generally avoid eahc other. When ours first saw the cat they looked slightly nervous and clucked a bit, then within about a day or so they realise he was scared of them and no threat and now they just shove him out the way if they want to go somewhere.

Chickens can hold their own against many things, see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXYjPHujPho&fea...
Good vid!! One of our older chickens is a Black Rock. They can have a bit of an attitude!!

Ours will happily go for the pheasants & crows that come into the paddock to nick their food. Cats have never stressed our birds out. Our original birds are about 3 years old & still lay 6 eggs a week each. The only time it got a little dicey was when we had Geese in the paddock as well - it kind of turned into gang warfware, with the chickens ending up victorious unless the the geese could corner a single bird.

We ate the Geese, so that solved that little dilemma.

isee

3,713 posts

183 months

Monday 5th July 2010
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remedy said:
EvoBarry said:
Japveesix said:
EvoBarry said:
Good on you for doing what you can, I'm a sucker for this kind of thing. Unfortunately I think if I brought some home nature would soon follow its course and my two adult cats would have a feast on their hands frown
Unless you have some seriously badass bengals or similar then I'd be amazed if they'd have a hope against a flock of 3+ chickens.

My cat is big (he's definitely king of the road) and he goes well ought of his way to avoid the chooks smile
Hmm, interesting. Would the mere presence of cats not stress the poor things though? I quite like the idea of fresh eggs biggrin
Ha, you'd think so wouldn't you.

My parents keep about 8-12 chickens of all sizes and types and my 9 year old, 7 stone golden retriever doesn't bat an eyelid as he wanders through them and they are just as indifferent to him. I find it fascinating to watch considering how terratorial he is yet he doesn't give a hoot about chickens!

Sorry, 40kg is around 7 stone not 9.


Edited by remedy on Sunday 4th July 17:18
I wish my dog was the same. last time he was let off the leash he has made a beeline fot he open chicken coop and killed 5 out of 10 within seconds! Annoyingly, by the time he was apprehended it was too late to punish him as he was already pre-occupied with sniffing some tree.

Coco H

4,237 posts

237 months

Monday 5th July 2010
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I have 10 extbatts. We rescued them 15 months ago. We had 14 months of 8-10 eggs a day including all through winter. They have now given up laying and we are runnning a retirement home for chickens.

schmalex

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13,616 posts

206 months

Thursday 8th July 2010
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Update on operation Chicken rescue:

The girls have settled in really well & are thoroughly enjoying their first taste of freedom. They are still living in their coop most of the time, but we are letting them out into the paddock in the evenings to have a bit of a run around. They are perking up incredibly quickly, although do still look a real rag tag bunch with no feathers! Come Saturday, they will be free to come & go as they please. We just have to manage their introduction to our other chickens so that there isn't gang warfare!

We are getting around 7 eggs a day from the new bunch and the quality is improving as each day passes as they flush the crappy food they used to be fed out of their system & de-stress.

I'm no soppy sod, but it is extremely rewarding watching an animal have a really good second chance at enjoying their life. They spend much of their time stretching what's left of their wings out & sunbathing or running around flapping as much as possible.

Mars

8,711 posts

214 months

Thursday 8th July 2010
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I like a full-meat and eggs diet but I don't like to think there's any unecessary suffering between the farm and my plate, so good on you for rescuing them and highlighting it on here.

I buy free-range where the wording on the box states the chickens are free to roam indoors and outdoors. I take that "promise" as it's delivered and hope I'm not being lied to.



I also buy shampoo that hasn't been tested on animals too, but I only buy beer that has been thoroughly tested on chimps and beagles. wink

Cas_P

1,497 posts

183 months

Thursday 8th July 2010
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That's really good of you smile

I never buy 'cheap' eggs, meat etc and always try and buy organic or free range in the hope that the animals will have had a better life.

My friend lives on a farm and her brother farms chickens and showed me the pen the other day it was just a massive warehouse full of chickens there was no space to move at all, though they had plenty of food and water and the place was well kept, it still made me sad that they had no space to move, there was 30k in there!! They are the chickens that go to tesco value, kfc etc.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 8th July 2010
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schmalex said:
I'm sure that if the general public saw the condition of battery chickens, the market for cheap eggs would disappear overnight, as the birds looked so sad when we collected them, it really made you stop & think. However, give them a couple of weeks & their combs will be up & their feathers will start to come back.
I'm pretty sure there was whole famous cheif campagne for free range eggs on tv a while ago, it got quite a lot of publicity. It didn't make a massive differance.

I have been in both battery and freerange sheds, but at the end of the day as a skint student the cheap eggs normally win over.

Bullett

10,886 posts

184 months

Thursday 8th July 2010
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HFW and JO were involved in a project about Free range chickens and eggs last year. I was already on board with Free range but I think the main focus was to change the supermarkets to all free range (or at least higher welfare).

Some of the footage was horrible.

I'm getting 2 chickens on the 19th

Mazda Baiter

37,068 posts

188 months

Thursday 8th July 2010
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Schmalex, whereabouts did you get your rechargeables from? My parents are looking at getting some. Iirc you are dorset way, my parents are North Somerset.
Cheers.

(Ps, how's Spot the slut getting on?)

schmalex

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13,616 posts

206 months

Thursday 8th July 2010
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LOL. Spot is fine now. No more parading herself for all and sundry. The latest cat related disaster is Spot & Sparkle's daily slaughter of around 10 - 12 birds. mice, voles & shrews, which they then kindly place on my 6 year old's bedroom floor.

We got the chickens from the Battery Hen Welfare Trust - http://www.bhwt.org.uk/

Our local re-homing centres were either Southampton or Guildford, so we went for Guildford as I know a good pub just down the road from where we picked them up from for a pre-collection lunch. However, looking at their website, they do have a few places in the South West (Bristol, Midsomer Norton & Brent Knoll).


ETA. I'll try to get some pics up over the weekend.

Edited by schmalex on Thursday 8th July 12:16