Should you be allowed to recline seat if big person behind?
Discussion
djc206 said:
HappySilver said:
So one, two, ten, twenty people complain on every flight? Still far from providing evidence of a majority view. I understand if someone does kick up a fuss about others reclining that will be a difficult situation for crew to deal with. For what it is worth, I have taken well over 300 short haul flights in the past four years, I have not witnessed one person complaining about others reclining and seen many people use the function.
We’re British we don’t complain. We either tut loudly or commit GBH, there is no middle ground.HappySilver said:
Any chance you could show us the statistics that enable you to make this definitive claim?
My opinion is that most people would agree with the view that they have paid for the recline function and to therefore occupy the space the seat reclines into should they so wish. If you disagree with someone using the function that they have paid for you should take that up with the airline that provides this or pay to book a seat that has more space that is solely allocated for you to use.
It’s from questionnaires from passengers on my airline over the years. I can’t share it because it’s from my employer. It definitely goes against your opinion though. My opinion is that most people would agree with the view that they have paid for the recline function and to therefore occupy the space the seat reclines into should they so wish. If you disagree with someone using the function that they have paid for you should take that up with the airline that provides this or pay to book a seat that has more space that is solely allocated for you to use.
HappySilver said:
So one, two, ten, twenty people complain on every flight? Still far from providing evidence of a majority view. I understand if someone does kick up a fuss about others reclining that will be a difficult situation for crew to deal with. For what it is worth, I have taken well over 300 short haul flights in the past four years, I have not witnessed one person complaining about others reclining and seen many people use the function.
Do the seats even recline? Many short haul flights have non reclining seats nowadays.I’ll bow to your experience of being on flights and “not witnessing” anything though.
El stovey said:
HappySilver said:
Any chance you could show us the statistics that enable you to make this definitive claim?
My opinion is that most people would agree with the view that they have paid for the recline function and to therefore occupy the space the seat reclines into should they so wish. If you disagree with someone using the function that they have paid for you should take that up with the airline that provides this or pay to book a seat that has more space that is solely allocated for you to use.
It’s from questionnaires from passengers on my airline over the years. I can’t share it because it’s from my employer. It definitely goes against your opinion though. My opinion is that most people would agree with the view that they have paid for the recline function and to therefore occupy the space the seat reclines into should they so wish. If you disagree with someone using the function that they have paid for you should take that up with the airline that provides this or pay to book a seat that has more space that is solely allocated for you to use.
We are seeing the recline function removed by some of the low cost airlines, I had put that down to cost saving (lower cost seats and reduced maintenance) but it could be down to customer feedback, but if that is the case I would have thought other airlines would have done the same. I generally fly with flag carrier type airlines, I can’t think of any that have removed the function. If the data is as clear as you claim it is hard to understand why they haven’t?
I would not miss it on short haul as I don’t use it, but it would never occur to me to moan if someone else does - I really do see the space they recline into as ‘belonging’ to them not me. I’m a big bugger too!
HappySilver said:
El stovey said:
HappySilver said:
Any chance you could show us the statistics that enable you to make this definitive claim?
My opinion is that most people would agree with the view that they have paid for the recline function and to therefore occupy the space the seat reclines into should they so wish. If you disagree with someone using the function that they have paid for you should take that up with the airline that provides this or pay to book a seat that has more space that is solely allocated for you to use.
It’s from questionnaires from passengers on my airline over the years. I can’t share it because it’s from my employer. It definitely goes against your opinion though. My opinion is that most people would agree with the view that they have paid for the recline function and to therefore occupy the space the seat reclines into should they so wish. If you disagree with someone using the function that they have paid for you should take that up with the airline that provides this or pay to book a seat that has more space that is solely allocated for you to use.
We are seeing the recline function removed by some of the low cost airlines, I had put that down to cost saving (lower cost seats and reduced maintenance) but it could be down to customer feedback, but if that is the case I would have thought other airlines would have done the same. I generally fly with flag carrier type airlines, I can’t think of any that have removed the function. If the data is as clear as you claim it is hard to understand why they haven’t?
I would not miss it on short haul as I don’t use it, but it would never occur to me to moan if someone else does - I really do see the space they recline into as ‘belonging’ to them not me. I’m a big bugger too!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/07/britis...
El stovey said:
I think you’ll find plenty of airlines “flag carrier” or otherwise have removed or are looking at removing recline function on short haul aircraft.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/07/britis...
Interesting thanks. So coming with new aircraft, I suspect it will be a long time until this is the case for all short haul flights then. I just hope the seats are comfortable and not rock solid as they seem to be on some of the low cost carriers. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/07/britis...
768 said:
A car alarm? Insurance? GP appointments? Full throttle on your drive? Full volume on your sound system? A football on your neighbors fence? An incinerator when their washing is out?
Seriously? 
1. Nobody buys a car alarm with the intent to use it.
2. GP appointments? Presumably you're talking about people not what they've booked, so that's more aimed at those who buy a reclining seat and then don't use it?
3. The sound related ones? You don't have a right to cause antisocial levels of noise. Try calling your local council to complain about the person in front of you reclining their seat!
If I am in economy and had the misfortune of having some of you selfish so and so’s recline your seat into my already restricted space I would kick your chair for the whole flight. It would be done on a 8/8 beat to make it ultra annoying.
Would this be a selfish act? Yes but then it is selfish to use the recline button unless on business class or above.
Would this be a selfish act? Yes but then it is selfish to use the recline button unless on business class or above.
Engelberger said:
If I am in economy and had the misfortune of having some of you selfish so and so’s recline your seat into my already restricted space I would kick your chair for the whole flight. It would be done on a 8/8 beat to make it ultra annoying.
Would this be a selfish act? Yes but then it is selfish to use the recline button unless on business class or above.
Oooh! Let me guess!! Is your name Gemma? Would this be a selfish act? Yes but then it is selfish to use the recline button unless on business class or above.
You've certainly got the petulant, immature attitude to someone using a facility they've paid for spot on!
OscarIndia said:
I'm 6ft 4 with very long legs, my knees are jammed up against the seat in front anyway, so if anyone reclines their seat I will politely ask them not to.
If they refuse then naturally both them and I are in for an uncomfortable journey.
This. If they refuse then naturally both them and I are in for an uncomfortable journey.
People who have to recline their seat on a 2hr flight are
s. Kermit power said:
768 said:
A car alarm? Insurance? GP appointments? Full throttle on your drive? Full volume on your sound system? A football on your neighbors fence? An incinerator when their washing is out?
Seriously? 1. Nobody buys a car alarm with the intent to use it.
2. GP appointments? Presumably you're talking about people not what they've booked, so that's more aimed at those who buy a reclining seat and then don't use it?
3. The sound related ones? You don't have a right to cause antisocial levels of noise. Try calling your local council to complain about the person in front of you reclining their seat!
You think only social grievances enforced by local councils count on a plane?
The Mad Monk said:
TL:DR
Shouldn't this be in the council thread?
I mean!
Who travels economy?
On a public flight with er, other people?
Where's Elton John when you want him?
I dont fly often, probably 2 or 3 times a year to west coast USA , and I pay for it, not business travel. I am happy to sit in cattle class.Shouldn't this be in the council thread?
I mean!
Who travels economy?
On a public flight with er, other people?
Where's Elton John when you want him?
But I agree, if little things like somebody reclining a seat offends so badly then they should join you and Elton up front.
On a long haul flight staying in 1 position is uncomfortable. Reclining helps a little.
If the guy behind me was kicking my sest continually and didnt stop after a polite request, then cabin crew would be called to assist. I doubt very much that they would ask or tell me not to recline my seat. But have never suffered from this.
Imagine the scene after the flight, and taking the details of the crew involved, contacting the airline to request compensation for the failure of the crew to assist my comfort with a feature they happily supply?
How many people actually find reclining seats an issue? Next to none, apart from the powerfully built company director type, sitting in cattle class.
768 said:
Kermit power said:
768 said:
A car alarm? Insurance? GP appointments? Full throttle on your drive? Full volume on your sound system? A football on your neighbors fence? An incinerator when their washing is out?
Seriously? 1. Nobody buys a car alarm with the intent to use it.
2. GP appointments? Presumably you're talking about people not what they've booked, so that's more aimed at those who buy a reclining seat and then don't use it?
3. The sound related ones? You don't have a right to cause antisocial levels of noise. Try calling your local council to complain about the person in front of you reclining their seat!
You think only social grievances enforced by local councils count on a plane?
Chris Stott said:
OscarIndia said:
I'm 6ft 4 with very long legs, my knees are jammed up against the seat in front anyway, so if anyone reclines their seat I will politely ask them not to.
If they refuse then naturally both them and I are in for an uncomfortable journey.
This. If they refuse then naturally both them and I are in for an uncomfortable journey.
People who have to recline their seat on a 2hr flight are
s. I am reasonably tall with long thighs, and seat backs often press into my knees before they are reclined, its much worse when reclined. I had someone complain to the cabin crew that I was preventing their seat from reclining, cabin crew came to tell me off, I demonstrated that it wasn't deliberate, its just where my knees were. Person in front kept muttering about me for the whole journey.
Plus I hate the t
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