Thomas Cook going bump.
Discussion
VAGLover said:
You gotta love TC’s customer base
https://apple.news/AvFuojRKFSVePVf6eRIdd_A
£2k for a trip to Turkey?https://apple.news/AvFuojRKFSVePVf6eRIdd_A
And, today, I heard Shelagh Fartarty on LBC say that TC provided people with "affordable holidays". I suspect that was, in reality, "expensive rip-off holidays with affordable payment plans"...
LM24Nut said:
£2k for a trip to Turkey?
And, today, I heard Shelagh Fartarty on LBC say that TC provided people with "affordable holidays". I suspect that was, in reality, "expensive rip-off holidays with affordable payment plans"...
Exactly. Take a mass market product, bundle it up with cheap flights from in-house airline. Add some margin into the deal then flog off on the high street with low down payment and monthly payment plan. And, today, I heard Shelagh Fartarty on LBC say that TC provided people with "affordable holidays". I suspect that was, in reality, "expensive rip-off holidays with affordable payment plans"...
It’s like those companies who use to rent you a TV, you end up buying it like 3 times over but value the monthly payment of £9.99.
I’d rather go without, until I’ve saved enough to buy a decent holiday outright, much better choice going ala carte.
VAGLover said:
Exactly. Take a mass market product, bundle it up with cheap flights from in-house airline. Add some margin into the deal then flog off on the high street with low down payment and monthly payment plan.
It’s like those companies who use to rent you a TV, you end up buying it like 3 times over but value the monthly payment of £9.99.
I’d rather go without, until I’ve saved enough to buy a decent holiday outright, much better choice going ala carte.
Kind of reminds me of my secondary school days back in the late 80s and early 90s. They were kids in my year who always had the latest "Nike" and/or "Reebok" trainers yet they lived on the local council estates and I remember a few who got free school meals? When I asked my parents for such "bling" I was told to "sod off" + "get a part time job" and the best I got from them was Hi-Tec or Gola trainers...lolz. Back then, the old man said to me "they've got the latest stuff because it's all from the Kays catalogue at £1.50 per week repayment + interest"...it didn't sink in with me back then, but looking back on it all, he was 100% correct. It’s like those companies who use to rent you a TV, you end up buying it like 3 times over but value the monthly payment of £9.99.
I’d rather go without, until I’ve saved enough to buy a decent holiday outright, much better choice going ala carte.
LM24Nut said:
VAGLover said:
Exactly. Take a mass market product, bundle it up with cheap flights from in-house airline. Add some margin into the deal then flog off on the high street with low down payment and monthly payment plan.
It’s like those companies who use to rent you a TV, you end up buying it like 3 times over but value the monthly payment of £9.99.
I’d rather go without, until I’ve saved enough to buy a decent holiday outright, much better choice going ala carte.
Kind of reminds me of my secondary school days back in the late 80s and early 90s. They were kids in my year who always had the latest "Nike" and/or "Reebok" trainers yet they lived on the local council estates? When I asked my parents for such "bling" I was told to "sod off" and the best I got was Hi-Tec or Gola...lolz. Back then, the old man said to me "they've got the latest stuff because it's all from the Kays catalogue at £1.50 per week repayment + interest"...it didn't sink in with me back then, but looking back on it all, he was 100% correct. It’s like those companies who use to rent you a TV, you end up buying it like 3 times over but value the monthly payment of £9.99.
I’d rather go without, until I’ve saved enough to buy a decent holiday outright, much better choice going ala carte.
By the time they are paid off, the shoes would be knackered.
Mugs game buying stuff on crazy high IR! Especially consumables.
The curse of the working class I’m afraid, inability to delay consumption or gratification.
speedyguy said:
Have the Advertising standards authority not shut down yet ?
I tried them a few years ago to book a weekend break and EVERY time you clicked the book now it/they upped the price from the advertised headline price.
Looking to book exactly the same trip on a different computer, day, time, week, etc no cookies and they always advertised the same low headline price then bumped it.
Never used them since.
Very sharp if not shady/illegal practice?
Book at least one holiday a year on Expedia. Works perfectly in my opinion and i’ve never seen any bumped prices. Generally works out around 5/10% cheaper than booking independently and you get the benefit of ATOL protection.I tried them a few years ago to book a weekend break and EVERY time you clicked the book now it/they upped the price from the advertised headline price.
Looking to book exactly the same trip on a different computer, day, time, week, etc no cookies and they always advertised the same low headline price then bumped it.
Never used them since.
Very sharp if not shady/illegal practice?
GT03ROB said:
If them's the rules how come I get 2 months worth each & every time without requesting it??
Yep me too and if I need more or need to order earlier than I should because I’m going away there is no issue.Ours is all on line so don’t even speak to anyone. Just order and pop to the chemist about 5 days later.
craig1912 said:
GT03ROB said:
If them's the rules how come I get 2 months worth each & every time without requesting it??
Yep me too and if I need more or need to order earlier than I should because I’m going away there is no issue.Ours is all on line so don’t even speak to anyone. Just order and pop to the chemist about 5 days later.
GSalt said:
GT03ROB said:
If them's the rules how come I get 2 months worth each & every time without requesting it??
No idea, but i got a passive-aggressive note back from my GP when I requested 3 months again this month highlighting the 28 day rule printed on the script. Checked the PCT website and confirmed that those are the rules.Otherwise its at th edoctors discretion.
Dunno how it's been generally, but I arrived at Heraklion airport in Crete on time for my scheduled TC flight, there was an ATOL desk dealing with associated flights, they issued us with boarding passes and we boarded, admittedly an hour late, on to an unmarked plane. Home more or less as planned. We gave away the Jet2 tickets we had bought as a precaution to people who needed them.
Big thanks to all involved in making what might have been a nightmare for us a reasonably good experience in the end. I hope most people caught up in it have as good an experience as we did, although I can already see that those on a package are the ones suffering.
Big thanks to all involved in making what might have been a nightmare for us a reasonably good experience in the end. I hope most people caught up in it have as good an experience as we did, although I can already see that those on a package are the ones suffering.
GT03ROB said:
I think the concept of the high street travel agent is dead. I wander past them & sometimes wonder who actually uses them these days.
When I purchase travel nowadays it's all online, I look at hotels, have tripadvisor open at the same time, flicking through the hotels online & on TA at the same time. I just don't see what value a high street agent brings anymore
We do a lot of research online, but we still go into the actual agent to book. Now that we are a family of four, holidays are very expensive and therefor I want to be able to speak to someone face to face so I can get answers to valuable questions. When I purchase travel nowadays it's all online, I look at hotels, have tripadvisor open at the same time, flicking through the hotels online & on TA at the same time. I just don't see what value a high street agent brings anymore
Also, when it goes wrong that high street location is invaluable.
Sadly, the younger one turns two in January and I fear that TUI offering will just be too much for us, so it will all be booked online because Eurocamp is the current favorite and that is all online.
bakerstreet said:
GT03ROB said:
I think the concept of the high street travel agent is dead. I wander past them & sometimes wonder who actually uses them these days.
When I purchase travel nowadays it's all online, I look at hotels, have tripadvisor open at the same time, flicking through the hotels online & on TA at the same time. I just don't see what value a high street agent brings anymore
We do a lot of research online, but we still go into the actual agent to book. Now that we are a family of four, holidays are very expensive and therefor I want to be able to speak to someone face to face so I can get answers to valuable questions. When I purchase travel nowadays it's all online, I look at hotels, have tripadvisor open at the same time, flicking through the hotels online & on TA at the same time. I just don't see what value a high street agent brings anymore
Also, when it goes wrong that high street location is invaluable.
Sadly, the younger one turns two in January and I fear that TUI offering will just be too much for us, so it will all be booked online because Eurocamp is the current favorite and that is all online.
VAGLover said:
bakerstreet said:
GT03ROB said:
I think the concept of the high street travel agent is dead. I wander past them & sometimes wonder who actually uses them these days.
When I purchase travel nowadays it's all online, I look at hotels, have tripadvisor open at the same time, flicking through the hotels online & on TA at the same time. I just don't see what value a high street agent brings anymore
We do a lot of research online, but we still go into the actual agent to book. Now that we are a family of four, holidays are very expensive and therefor I want to be able to speak to someone face to face so I can get answers to valuable questions. When I purchase travel nowadays it's all online, I look at hotels, have tripadvisor open at the same time, flicking through the hotels online & on TA at the same time. I just don't see what value a high street agent brings anymore
Also, when it goes wrong that high street location is invaluable.
Sadly, the younger one turns two in January and I fear that TUI offering will just be too much for us, so it will all be booked online because Eurocamp is the current favorite and that is all online.
LM24Nut said:
VAGLover said:
bakerstreet said:
GT03ROB said:
I think the concept of the high street travel agent is dead. I wander past them & sometimes wonder who actually uses them these days.
When I purchase travel nowadays it's all online, I look at hotels, have tripadvisor open at the same time, flicking through the hotels online & on TA at the same time. I just don't see what value a high street agent brings anymore
We do a lot of research online, but we still go into the actual agent to book. Now that we are a family of four, holidays are very expensive and therefor I want to be able to speak to someone face to face so I can get answers to valuable questions. When I purchase travel nowadays it's all online, I look at hotels, have tripadvisor open at the same time, flicking through the hotels online & on TA at the same time. I just don't see what value a high street agent brings anymore
Also, when it goes wrong that high street location is invaluable.
Sadly, the younger one turns two in January and I fear that TUI offering will just be too much for us, so it will all be booked online because Eurocamp is the current favorite and that is all online.
VAGLover said:
LM24Nut said:
£2k for a trip to Turkey?
And, today, I heard Shelagh Fartarty on LBC say that TC provided people with "affordable holidays". I suspect that was, in reality, "expensive rip-off holidays with affordable payment plans"...
Exactly. Take a mass market product, bundle it up with cheap flights from in-house airline. Add some margin into the deal then flog off on the high street with low down payment and monthly payment plan. And, today, I heard Shelagh Fartarty on LBC say that TC provided people with "affordable holidays". I suspect that was, in reality, "expensive rip-off holidays with affordable payment plans"...
It’s like those companies who use to rent you a TV, you end up buying it like 3 times over but value the monthly payment of £9.99.
I’d rather go without, until I’ve saved enough to buy a decent holiday outright, much better choice going ala carte.
Ok I will bite, how much do you think holidays to Turkey are? If you think £1k will get two of you to turkey you can dream on. Its not the 90's anymore when I remember paying £450 all inclusive to go to Tenerife staying in 5* accommodation (incl flights).
The £ is s
te right now, we paid £3k for turkey at half term in May - yeah its a disgraceful amount, I agree, but where in europe can you go thats warm in May (25c plus) when you have a week. Friends went to menorca and had the most miserable week for weather (and paid £2.2k for the privilage), didn't get past 20c, better weather in the UK.We had a great time, 2 adults 2 children for that price all inclusive. Won't go back for a while, I do like to go different places, but seriously struggling for May half term of what to do.
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