fujifilm x-t4

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Trustmeimadoctor

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Monday 24th February 2020
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anyone going to be putting an order in for the x-t4?

seems like some really decent updates over the 3 Mainly ibis and battery the flippy vlog screen not bothered about really.

Everything else should be released on the 3 via firmware but obviously it might not!

I just sold my sony a6000 that ive never enjoyed using it always felt too small and uncomfortable when using it.

im in a two minds do i go for a 4 or a 3 and pick up a new bargain price drop camera or a used one from someone upgrading and hope the 3 gets the firmware updates to speed up the af and other bits

Elderly

3,497 posts

239 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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I'd always wait for a camera to be actually available and priced before ordering.

I like Fuji (I've had a few) and I like the IDEA of of the x-t4, but the Full Frame Nikon Z6 is probably cheaper
and it's around the same size and weight.

Trustmeimadoctor

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156 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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We know the usd price and its announced tonight and expected to be up for preorder from tomorrow too

Trustmeimadoctor

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Wednesday 26th February 2020
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well bugger not expected till late april early may and i need it for mid april

So x-t3 or a7iii then smile

CVP

2,799 posts

276 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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I'm swayed by this release. I currently run an XT-2 and XT-3 side by side. I'll likely change the XT-2 for one and then do whatever firmware update they release for the XT-3

Elderly

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239 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
well bugger not expected till late april early may and i need it for mid april

So x-t3 or a7iii then smile
You are in a lucky position with having no present 'investment' in one particular brand's lenses
which might tie you to their bodies - you have a clean slate!

What do you want to photograph?
If it's something that involves long lenses, you might not want to lug around a FF system.
If you regularly need to shoot at a high ISO, FF would be far the best. etc. etc..

Trustmeimadoctor

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Thursday 27th February 2020
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Priority no1 my vietnam/cambodia trip hence need a zoom no idea what or where i will be shooting

2 street photography
3 Just general photography

DavidY

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285 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
well bugger not expected till late april early may and i need it for mid april

So x-t3 or a7iii then smile
Or if you want IBIS, the X-H1 is on a stunning good offer at the Fuji Refurb Store https://shop.fujifilm.co.uk/digital-cameras/refurb...

Trustmeimadoctor

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Thursday 27th February 2020
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I had thought about x-h1

excuse the pun i seem to be focusing really on af tracking and eye af animal would be good too but i dunno

Id maybe like to try some birds in flight one day and wifes horse riding

Edited by Trustmeimadoctor on Thursday 27th February 15:43

Trustmeimadoctor

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Thursday 27th February 2020
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Ps budget upto 2k less = happy wife

DavidY

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285 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
Ps budget upto 2k less = happy wife
Zoom Option

X-H1 from Refurb Store £699
Used XF18-55mm lens £250
Used XF10-24 lens £500
Used XF55-200 Lens £425 - or if don't think you will use this much consider the XC50-230 optically great but plastic body, Used £120

Less than £2K and covers 10mm (15mm FF) to 200mm (300mm FF)



Trustmeimadoctor

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Thursday 27th February 2020
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Why not the 16-80?


DavidY

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285 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
Why not the 16-80?
Its a good option if you want weather resistance, but its not super sharp at either end, the 18-135 is also quite a good option for WR, again its not as sharp as the other zooms but does have very good OIS (not a requirement with an X-H1)

If it was me I'd be taking the XF18-55 (£250 used), the XF16 F1.4 (again s/h £550) which is an absolutely stellar lens and probably the best prime that Fujifilm make, and the 50-230, I'm not a long focal length shooter, so I would save the weight and take the plastic option, that would leave a bit of funds to get a standard low light prime (something like the Zeiss 32mm F1.8, or Xf35mm F.14 or even one of the 7artisans MF lenses)

With the exception of the 16-80 and the 7artisans lenses, I have owned or still own all the lenses mentioned!

But then again, I could quite happily go very lightweight and take X100F/X100V and WCL converter.

Trustmeimadoctor

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Thursday 27th February 2020
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I mean the 100v is an option but restricted to 1 lens ok wide angle and tele adapters

DavidY

4,459 posts

285 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Its only a restriction in your head!!! Despite having owned loads of interchangeable lens cameras, and buckets of lenses, I feel my best shots are taken with the X100 series cameras.

The F and the V both also have a digital teleconverter option which is surprisingly good even though it is JPG only, this will work with the converters attached as well.

I have done whole holidays with just an X100 series camera, yes you have to work a bit harder, but it has the huge advantage of being light weight, easily slipped into a bag/rucksack, large pocket. Much more family/wife friendly than phaffing about changing lenses etc.

These 3 holidays were X100 series cameras only

https://www.flickr.com/photos/89667368@N05/albums/...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/89667368@N05/albums/...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/89667368@N05/albums/...

You will appreciate not lugging loads of gear about in hot/humid environments!!

CVP

2,799 posts

276 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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Street or general then XT-3 with 18-55 would cover a lot of bases and could be a one camera / lens only option if packing space is limited. Small, light and importantly quite discreet.

If you're out at night / low light and want to capture the hustle and bustle of city nightlife then the small wide aperture prime already recommended would be a real bonus, or if you can find one, the little pancake 27mm f2.8 lens. Yes the optical quality will not be as good as that F1.4 prime but it will likely be good enough if you're not selling your images. That on the XT-3 and it's almost a pocketable combination and so light you won't notice you are carrying it.

Birds in flight with the XT-3 is doable but I have found still a bit of a challenge as the tracking AF is definitely not as good as the Sony A7 and some other DSLRs. You definitely need to put the camera into performance mode which eats up battery life. That can be extended of course by having the bolt on grip with an extra 2 batteries but then you add weight. The 100-400 is a great lens for birds / wildlife and even if you have that & battery grip then the combination is still a lot lighter than a similar full frame setup. It's a compromise but I've not regretted moving to the Fuji system a few years ago.

It might not be a concern to you but video on the XT-3 seems quite decent too if you want to shoot both stills and a bit of video footage.

Trustmeimadoctor

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Friday 28th February 2020
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video isnt a thought of mine really.

I must admit the fact the fuji images seem to be so usable out of camera is a big attraction to me!

Escapegoat

5,135 posts

136 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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ISTM that for travel, multiple lenses are essential only for the die-hardest of pixelpeepers. 18-135 would be the obvious choice, and on an used X-T2 (so cheap now).

Having said that, the 18-135 on the Sony A6000 was a fantastic combination - what didn't you like about that camera?

Escapegoat

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136 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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Oops - just read the OP. The A6000 was too small. I can understand that. The X-Tn series is almost as big as the Sony full-frame A7 series, so may suit you better, and you get all of those 'proper' dials (if that's your thing).

Trustmeimadoctor

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Thursday 5th March 2020
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I hate buying a new system !

anyway
Prices z6 with 24-70 and ftz adapter £1630 ish

A7 iii £1289 Body only
24-105 f4 £807
tamron 28-75 f2.8 £600

fuji x-t3 £1000 body only
£1600 Inc 16-80
16-55 f2.8 £860

Really cant decide!!!!!