Coronavirus concerns

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Gareth1974

3,418 posts

139 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Got a skiing trip booked to Northern Italy, departing on Saturday. Not one of the currently affecteed areas, so fingers crossed.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Gareth1974 said:
Got a skiing trip booked to Northern Italy, departing on Saturday. Not one of the currently affecteed areas, so fingers crossed.
Is that fingers crossed it remains safe or fingers crossed none gets infected?

8003px

179 posts

155 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Hmm, this is getting a bit confusing on what to do and what not to do, both work and pleasure travel!

Next week - work flights from East mids to Jersey for couple of days , then on to Guernsey for a couple then home, should be fine.

March 18th - work trip to singapore-brisbane-melbourne-Auckland in NZ, singapore, starting to get a bit concerning on this one back on 31st March

April 26th - Holiday to Barbados, all paid for with Destination2, but just thinking if i did feel a bit funny and had to do this 2 week isolation would these lot give me a refund, im thinking im better to just not do the work trip just in case!

Also i have been told that the masks are no good to stop you catching stuff and probably contribute as they get wet with breath and then people touch them, getting the virus on their fingers and actually spreading it. Im told they are more for people to stop spreading it when they cough and sneeze, not idea what is right tbh, have we any advice from any one who knows?

Gareth1974

3,418 posts

139 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Welshbeef said:
Gareth1974 said:
Got a skiing trip booked to Northern Italy, departing on Saturday. Not one of the currently affecteed areas, so fingers crossed.
Is that fingers crossed it remains safe or fingers crossed none gets infected?
Fingers crossed the trip doesn't get cancelled at the moment.

schmalex

13,616 posts

206 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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I wear masks a lot when I’m in Asia. Mainly when I’m ill, but also when I’m in heavily polluted cities. They won’t stop you catching anything but will help you stop spreading anything you’ve got.

As far as travel goes, I’m of the “carry on. As long as you’re reasonably healthy it’s no worse the a bad cold” school of thought. However, I’ve just had a trip to Thailand and Japan next week cancelled by work and I fully expect they’ll cancel a trip to Malaysia on April as well. They do have a duty of care so I’m not overly surprised at their caution

51mes

1,500 posts

200 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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We have a corporate travel Ban in place at the moment, with travel by exception with board approval due to this (possibly as it's 5 weeks to end of year too).

Supposed to be in Stockholm, Copenhagen and Lisbon next month for a few days each - it's the airports a more critically I think the aeroplanes which are the incubators.

Very Glad I don't have any long hauls scheduled.

Still planning my roadtrip to italy in september - hope for all concerned it's cleared up by then.....

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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schmalex said:
As far as travel goes, I’m of the “carry on. As long as you’re reasonably healthy it’s no worse the a bad cold” school of thought
And all the less-than-healthy people you might pass it on to? Just their tough luck is it?
Poor show.

schmalex

13,616 posts

206 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Crossflow Kid said:
schmalex said:
As far as travel goes, I’m of the “carry on. As long as you’re reasonably healthy it’s no worse the a bad cold” school of thought
And all the less-than-healthy people you might pass it on to? Just their tough luck is it?
Poor show.
Where do you stop? Same with a cold / flu / umpteen other ailments.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Crossflow Kid said:
schmalex said:
As far as travel goes, I’m of the “carry on. As long as you’re reasonably healthy it’s no worse the a bad cold” school of thought
And all the less-than-healthy people you might pass it on to? Just their tough luck is it?
Poor show.
There has been no clear information on those who die. Any commonality or is it totally random.


The other thing - is there any long term side effects for those who had the virus and survived?

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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schmalex said:
Where do you stop? Same with a cold / flu / umpteen other ailments.
Jeremy hunt on Sky saying it could be 1-2-3% mortality rate BUT when you have millions of people infected that low % still means a very large number of people.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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schmalex said:
Crossflow Kid said:
schmalex said:
As far as travel goes, I’m of the “carry on. As long as you’re reasonably healthy it’s no worse the a bad cold” school of thought
And all the less-than-healthy people you might pass it on to? Just their tough luck is it?
Poor show.
Where do you stop? Same with a cold / flu / umpteen other ailments.
Other ailments are treatable/less contagious/more obvious in their symptoms.
This Covid thing appear to have upped the ante somewhat and just chucking caution to the wind and saying “Pah...what’s the worse that can happen?” is a little reckless/selfish.

Allanv

3,540 posts

186 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Crossflow Kid said:
schmalex said:
Crossflow Kid said:
schmalex said:
As far as travel goes, I’m of the “carry on. As long as you’re reasonably healthy it’s no worse the a bad cold” school of thought
And all the less-than-healthy people you might pass it on to? Just their tough luck is it?
Poor show.
Where do you stop? Same with a cold / flu / umpteen other ailments.
Other ailments are treatable/less contagious/more obvious in their symptoms.
This Covid thing appear to have upped the ante somewhat and just chucking caution to the wind and saying “Pah...what’s the worse that can happen?” is a little reckless/selfish.
See this is what happens when you believe SM and MSM, panic.

IT is just the flu, with the media and governments bigging it up to make you fear, the only way the .gov can control is through fear.

Enjoy your fear in your life, must be such a shame to be so scared all your life, bless.

schmalex

13,616 posts

206 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Crossflow Kid said:
schmalex said:
Crossflow Kid said:
schmalex said:
As far as travel goes, I’m of the “carry on. As long as you’re reasonably healthy it’s no worse the a bad cold” school of thought
And all the less-than-healthy people you might pass it on to? Just their tough luck is it?
Poor show.
Where do you stop? Same with a cold / flu / umpteen other ailments.
Other ailments are treatable/less contagious/more obvious in their symptoms.
This Covid thing appear to have upped the ante somewhat and just chucking caution to the wind and saying “Pah...what’s the worse that can happen?” is a little reckless/selfish.
If I went to a country, caught flu / a bad cold, came home and passed it to my in-laws / parents and they, sadly, passed away from it, no-one would bat an eyelid.

What’s different?






Edited by schmalex on Wednesday 26th February 22:11

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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So it’s all just a government thing to keep us controlled by way of fear?
Ok, got it, thanks. Bless.

Allanv

3,540 posts

186 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Crossflow Kid said:
So it’s all just a government thing to keep us controlled by way of fear?
Ok, got it, thanks. Bless.
Thank you

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Allanv said:
See this is what happens when you believe SM and MSM, panic.

IT is just the flu, with the media and governments bigging it up to make you fear, the only way the .gov can control is through fear.

Enjoy your fear in your life, must be such a shame to be so scared all your life, bless.
So.... globally all countries have agreed to act in unison to create a global state of fear.

Right.


anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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schmalex said:
Crossflow Kid said:
schmalex said:
Crossflow Kid said:
schmalex said:
As far as travel goes, I’m of the “carry on. As long as you’re reasonably healthy it’s no worse the a bad cold” school of thought
And all the less-than-healthy people you might pass it on to? Just their tough luck is it?
Poor show.
Where do you stop? Same with a cold / flu / umpteen other ailments.
Other ailments are treatable/less contagious/more obvious in their symptoms.
This Covid thing appear to have upped the ante somewhat and just chucking caution to the wind and saying “Pah...what’s the worse that can happen?” is a little reckless/selfish.
If I went to a country, caught flu, came home and passed it to my in-laws / parents and they, sadly, passed away from it, no-one would bat an eyelid.
What’s different?
A couple of things....
The mortality rate is around ten times higher than “normal” flu. It’s still single figure percentages but it’s significantly higher than other viral infections.
It’s transmissible well before a carrier is displaying symptoms themselves so it’s being passed on by people who don’t even know they’ve got it.

Allanv

3,540 posts

186 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Welshbeef said:
So.... globally all countries have agreed to act in unison to create a global state of fear.

Right.
Yarp, it is easy to fool the foolish.

Stupid is as stupid does, SM helps and assists.

raceboy

13,101 posts

280 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Welshbeef said:
Crossflow Kid said:
schmalex said:
As far as travel goes, I’m of the “carry on. As long as you’re reasonably healthy it’s no worse the a bad cold” school of thought
And all the less-than-healthy people you might pass it on to? Just their tough luck is it?
Poor show.
There has been no clear information on those who die. Any commonality or is it totally random.
I’d say this is quite clear who is most at risk, like I mentioned earlier frail old men
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavi...
I’m with schmalex, and here’s an unpopular opinion, the planets a bit over populated anyway, a bit of cull wouldn’t do the environment any harm. wink

schmalex

13,616 posts

206 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Crossflow Kid said:
schmalex said:
Crossflow Kid said:
schmalex said:
Crossflow Kid said:
schmalex said:
As far as travel goes, I’m of the “carry on. As long as you’re reasonably healthy it’s no worse the a bad cold” school of thought
And all the less-than-healthy people you might pass it on to? Just their tough luck is it?
Poor show.
Where do you stop? Same with a cold / flu / umpteen other ailments.
Other ailments are treatable/less contagious/more obvious in their symptoms.
This Covid thing appear to have upped the ante somewhat and just chucking caution to the wind and saying “Pah...what’s the worse that can happen?” is a little reckless/selfish.
If I went to a country, caught flu, came home and passed it to my in-laws / parents and they, sadly, passed away from it, no-one would bat an eyelid.
What’s different?
A couple of things....
The mortality rate is around ten times higher than “normal” flu. It’s still single figure percentages but it’s significantly higher than other viral infections.
It’s transmissible well before a carrier is displaying symptoms themselves so it’s being passed on by people who don’t even know they’ve got it.
I live in UK and work in Asia. What am I to do? Stop travel? For how long? My individual impact to GDP is absolutely minuscule but multiply that by lord knows how many and it starts to impact.

I’ve canned a trip next week at work’s behest but will do everything I can to get back out end of March / beginning of April. I can’t afford not to.

The biggest impact of this is if everyone stops doing what they do. It’s often said people are 3 meals from anarchy. If we panic and change our lives, it just exacerbates that.

Finally, frankly, and maybe harshly, if my FiL or MiL contract it and move on quicker than they might, it’s no bad thing. They are both in their 90’s, ill, refuse to go into care yet can’t look after themselves in their home. The best thing for the whole family (them included) would be for them to slip away

Edited by schmalex on Wednesday 26th February 22:27