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anonymous-user

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54 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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is now confirming the SCoM are in Administration?

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/3504774

Just this mean we are now allowed to talk about them or not?

Glassman

22,534 posts

215 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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jeremyc

23,468 posts

284 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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anonymous said:
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You've said just about everything that can be said.

Everything else would likely just be unsubstantiated opinion and conjecture, and potentially defamatory, so goes against the rules of the forum.

anonymous-user

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Thursday 27th February 2020
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jeremyc said:
ou've said just about everything that can be said.

Everything else would likely just be unsubstantiated opinion and conjecture, and potentially defamatory, so goes against the rules of the forum.
But considering on the now deleted thread someone had a car on SOR and was trying to determine who the administrators were it might be useful to allow some form of discussion, also can you defame a defunct entity?

anonymous-user

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54 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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In fact if the company has ceased to exist then the serious harm cannot exist ergo they cannot be defamed?

A statement is not defamatory unless its publication has caused or is likely to cause serious harm to the reputation of the claimant.

Harm to the reputation of a body that trades for profit is not “serious harm” unless it has caused or is likely to cause the body serious financial loss.

jeremyc

23,468 posts

284 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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anonymous said:
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It's easy to find who the administrators are, as you have proven. smile

The entity isn't defunct - it's a business in administration.

Most of the posts on the subject of the business have sadly been highly emotive, vitriolic and targeted at individuals as well as the company. All from anonymous "people on the internet", and therefore unsubstantiated.

Put simply, Pistonheads defines the rules that forum users need to comply with, and naming and shaming of businesses and individuals is against these rules.

Glassman

22,534 posts

215 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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jeremyc said:
Pistonheads defines the rules that forum users need to comply with, and naming and shaming of businesses and individuals is against these rules.
Understand the rule exists and to a point, why. But it's weakened beyond enforcement now, surely?

jeremyc

23,468 posts

284 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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A reminder as to why the no naming & shaming rules exist: The Truth About Naming & Shaming

Glassman

22,534 posts

215 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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jeremyc said:
A reminder as to why the no naming & shaming rules exist: The Truth About Naming & Shaming
Thanks. Nobody here, or in any of the deleted threads, is questioning the rules. But as it is now widely accessible public information what is happening, surely that isn't naming and shaming? It's merely stating a fact.

jeremyc

23,468 posts

284 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Glassman said:
Thanks. Nobody here, or in any of the deleted threads, is questioning the rules. But as it is now widely accessible public information what is happening, surely that isn't naming and shaming? It's merely stating a fact.
So how many posts/threads do you want that just state this one fact? It's already been said; there's nothing more to discuss.

I'd also point out that whilst nobody may have been questioning the rules, all of them had broken the rules in the deleted threads, hence why they were removed. nono


Edited by jeremyc on Thursday 27th February 10:41

Glassman

22,534 posts

215 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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So we're ok now. So far.

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Steve Rance

5,446 posts

231 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Technically the company will still be trading. The administrator will decide what course of action will be required and then act accordingly. At some point a Liquidator or reciever may be appointed. Until that time there is no faits accommpli.

In the meantime perhaps we should spare a thought for the staff members and creditors who are - no doubt - desperate for a more positive outcome.


MDL111

6,942 posts

177 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Steve Rance said:
Technically the company will still be trading. The administrator will decide what course of action will be required and then act accordingly. At some point a Liquidator or reciever may be appointed. Until that time there is no faits accommpli.

In the meantime perhaps we should spare a thought for the staff members and creditors who are - no doubt - desperate for a more positive outcome.
fully agree, never good when a business seems to be in trouble. I never dealt with them, but as far as I can remember people were always complementary about them

dudleybloke

19,826 posts

186 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Is this situation a result of the vehicle that cannot be spoken about?

ellroy

7,030 posts

225 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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PS2018

323 posts

73 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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'No buyer has been found so the company’s remaining assets will be sold at auction.'

interested to hear when and where this auction will be if we are allowed to discuss that

jeremyc

23,468 posts

284 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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Enough already! This isn't a discussion on the Pistonheads naming & shaming policy which is explained very clearly here.

The Pistonheads statement on Specialist Cars of Malton is here.
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