Who's going skiing and where - 2021 #postcrisis

Who's going skiing and where - 2021 #postcrisis

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//j17

4,481 posts

223 months

Monday 2nd November 2020
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EddieSteadyGo said:
jammy-git said:
But isn't it the case that with temperatures in late March/April, the snow tends to be quite mushy?
Personally I think the end of season skiing is the best time to go. Quiet slopes, warmer weather, usually blue skies. The key to get out early. I like to ski for the first half of the day, and then go walking, biking or just relaxing for the afternoon.
Yep, up early, first lift, ski through lunch, give up mid-afternoon, dump kit and enjoy a late lunch somewhere, sat outside in t-shirt and shorts ejoying the sun.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 2nd November 2020
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EddieSteadyGo said:
Personally I think the end of season skiing is the best time to go. Quiet slopes, warmer weather, usually blue skies. The key to get out early. I like to ski for the first half of the day, and then go walking, biking or just relaxing for the afternoon.
Absolutely. That's why we usually go in March.

In my experience of going at that time for many years: You still get lovely picturesque snow showers, the snow is still deep everywhere and the skiing great, but it's generally blue skies and blazing sun most days.

We get out skiing after breakfast and usually quit around 2 or 3pm and then spend the afternoon sitting outside a bar or restaurant in a T shirt getting slowly pissed and relaxing.

Skiing when it's freezing cold or constantly snowing? fk that!

S100HP

12,679 posts

167 months

Monday 2nd November 2020
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Welshbeef said:
More so for sure - but longer daylight hours might mean same usable time on the slopes.

We would need the light and piste staff to be prepared to open lifts to public at 7am

If you did 9-4pm the 2-4pm might be leg burning whereas if you went 7-2pm and had lunch AFTER 2pm then I’d wager it would be fine.
I've already said that the industry has no interest in extending the season. Even when there is a st ton of snow at the end of the season.

What you're proposing, whilst it makes sense to the normal person, you have to bare in mind you can barely get the French to work, let alone asking them to do more.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Monday 2nd November 2020
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S100HP said:
I've already said that the industry has no interest in extending the season. Even when there is a st ton of snow at the end of the season.

What you're proposing, whilst it makes sense to the normal person, you have to bare in mind you can barely get the French to work, let alone asking them to do more.
Well hopefully the smart ones will else they might be out of work purely because they refuse to adapt to the situation.

The_Doc

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4,887 posts

220 months

Monday 2nd November 2020
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//j17 said:
Yep, up early, first lift, ski through lunch, give up mid-afternoon, dump kit and enjoy a late lunch somewhere, sat outside in t-shirt and shorts ejoying the sun.


17°C at lunchtime March 2018
O'Padcha Restaurant
2200m

DJ playing.
Boarding home - very poor



Here's the EU "border" marked in red on the floor. Sunbathing and €7 pints

jammy-git

29,778 posts

212 months

Monday 2nd November 2020
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You go skiing with Sebastian Vettel (middle)?

The_Doc

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4,887 posts

220 months

Monday 2nd November 2020
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I'm genetically related to him

EddieSteadyGo

11,947 posts

203 months

Monday 2nd November 2020
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The_Doc said:
I'm genetically related to him
Is that a nerdy way of saying he is a member of your family?

The_Doc

Original Poster:

4,887 posts

220 months

Monday 2nd November 2020
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Sorry work-mode.
That man in the centre is my brother, but he is not Vetel.
He usually get mistaken for Ben Affleck, but perhaps at altitude he morphs into Seb
Anyhow, we are drifting off topic here

Condi

17,195 posts

171 months

Monday 2nd November 2020
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Welshbeef said:
Well hopefully the smart ones will else they might be out of work purely because they refuse to adapt to the situation.
Suspect most areas will be happy to open, let alone worry about closing date. Meanwhile the staff who are unsure of winter work in the ski resorts will presumably be looking elsewhere now because there is definitely no certainty around their usual winter income.

The end date is the same time most years because the staff have winter jobs and summer jobs. You can't just extend the season when there is snow because the guys and girls will have sorted out other work from a specific date. And you can't contract them longer every year because some years there is no snow by then. It's very frustrating when there is good snow in April, but you can understand why things are as they are.

Smaller resorts are more flexible, Scottish places will open until the snow is gone. Large Alpine resorts do a lot more planning and have much larger maintenance programs to do.

gregs656

10,886 posts

181 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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Welshbeef said:
Well hopefully the smart ones will else they might be out of work purely because they refuse to adapt to the situation.
It’s a pretty big ship to turn around.

The vast majority of the people who work a ski season do other things in the spring and summer.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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gregs656 said:
It’s a pretty big ship to turn around.

The vast majority of the people who work a ski season do other things in the spring and summer.
Given they lost out in 2019/20 season and then clearly the summer season was woeful too you’d expect them to do anything they can for income.

Just need a decent snow season to push the likelihood up of longer season and then a lot of luck with the virus

Carbon Sasquatch

4,650 posts

64 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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gregs656 said:
It’s a pretty big ship to turn around.

The vast majority of the people who work a ski season do other things in the spring and summer.
It's also a big risk - it needs to start with the mountain infrastructure - lift operators, piste prep etc and that's a big investment to make whilst hoping to sell more passes.

That's why it can't be done quickly or easily, because the rest of the infrastructure has to follow otherwise you just end up with a few locals having a great end of season & no additional revenue.

S100HP

12,679 posts

167 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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I've also heard that 3V are 60% down on lift pass sales already, before our and their new lockdown

eps

6,297 posts

269 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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S100HP said:
I've also heard that 3V are 60% down on lift pass sales already, before our and their new lockdown
only 60%??

frown

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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S100HP said:
I've also heard that 3V are 60% down on lift pass sales already, before our and their new lockdown
Would be interesting to know how many people buy their passes online or before the season starts.

We always just buy our passes when we get there as it takes 2 mins. Buying them before you arrive at a resort doesn’t seem necessary.

If you know you will be going skiing multiple times over the season then I can understand buying a season pass in advance.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
Would be interesting to know how many people buy their passes online or before the season starts.

We always just buy our passes when we get there as it takes 2 mins. Buying them before you arrive at a resort doesn’t seem necessary.

If you know you will be going skiing multiple times over the season then I can understand buying a season pass in advance.
Don’t they offer usually an early bird discount for season passes?

JQ

5,745 posts

179 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
S100HP said:
I've also heard that 3V are 60% down on lift pass sales already, before our and their new lockdown
Would be interesting to know how many people buy their passes online or before the season starts.

We always just buy our passes when we get there as it takes 2 mins. Buying them before you arrive at a resort doesn’t seem necessary.

If you know you will be going skiing multiple times over the season then I can understand buying a season pass in advance.
Lads trip - we buy them on the first day of skiing.

Family trip - I buy them in advance, as the 10% Early Bird discount gives a reasonable saving when I'm buying 4 passes. Plus it's one less thing to worry about on the first day.

Carbon Sasquatch

4,650 posts

64 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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Depends how you book your holiday - I'm sure there's plenty of packages bought in advance too.

This year is actually the first time I've bought my season pass in advance - I usually buy it on the first day in resort

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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JQ said:
Lads trip - we buy them on the first day of skiing.

Family trip - I buy them in advance, as the 10% Early Bird discount gives a reasonable saving when I'm buying 4 passes. Plus it's one less thing to worry about on the first day.
Certainly makes sense if you are getting a 10% discount.