Summer holidays 2020
Discussion
Harry H said:
LuS1fer said:
This why I go to Fuerteventura. No pushy touts, none of that two for one crap, no pushy restaurant greeters. They can all just feck orf.
Same here, the south of Fuerteventura every time for me. Laid back, no hassle, no sports bars or Full English and the best beaches by miles. Not so good for the young that may want a bit more "life" about the place but perfect for me.Could live there 6 months of the year no problem.
Like mainland Spain or the Greek islands they all have areas where there’s more action and quieter bits. Depending on what you’re after.
I really didn't like the resorts in gran canaries, horrible s
t holes apart from mogan which is nicer but like others have said there are some great drives around the island.
We were meant to be doing Lanzarote in November but changed to Madeira when easy jet cancelled our flights. I'm actually looks Ng forward to exploring somewhere new, especially with a car to your the island.
t holes apart from mogan which is nicer but like others have said there are some great drives around the island.We were meant to be doing Lanzarote in November but changed to Madeira when easy jet cancelled our flights. I'm actually looks Ng forward to exploring somewhere new, especially with a car to your the island.
Tenerife on Sunday for a week.
It looks to be 28oC lowering to mid 20s when I am there which is perfect.
Really looking forward to it after having worked non stop since March.
Face coverings are compulsory when walking around but that’s a small price to pay for the sunshine and getting away from the doom and gloom of the UK.
It looks to be 28oC lowering to mid 20s when I am there which is perfect.
Really looking forward to it after having worked non stop since March.
Face coverings are compulsory when walking around but that’s a small price to pay for the sunshine and getting away from the doom and gloom of the UK.
vaud said:
Madeira is very nice. Some great drives to be had and easy to get away from too many tourists.
Visit the markets in the town.
Restaurant: Beef and Wines in Funchal is very nice; very good wine list (if you like wine)
A shame the airport is so scary! Visit the markets in the town.
Restaurant: Beef and Wines in Funchal is very nice; very good wine list (if you like wine)
Funchal is lovely and, as you say, the markets are pretty amazing.
Shnozz said:
Worst case I guess you can travel to return home but the constant stress of movement would ruin the experience IMO.
We contemplated a quick trip back to the UK to collect my UK car and drive it down to Spain as its been sat unused since June. We've shelved the idea as regionally it all seems a bit on the precipice of another lockdown, a regional lockdown, curfews and various measures that are enforced with more force than perhaps the UK.
A good decision given what’s floating around social media at the moment. We contemplated a quick trip back to the UK to collect my UK car and drive it down to Spain as its been sat unused since June. We've shelved the idea as regionally it all seems a bit on the precipice of another lockdown, a regional lockdown, curfews and various measures that are enforced with more force than perhaps the UK.
Shnozz, welcome you views on the following since you are on the ground.
I was due to fly in to Corvera on Saturday. As you know I’m based in the Cartagena municipality. Because I’m not a resident and therefore not traveling to my primary residence even though I own it, I’m now unsure if they’ll let me to pass in to the Cartagena municipality from the airport. I’ve been new checking various web sites today but can’t find clarity. I have until 4pm tomorrow to decide whether to cancel.
NDA said:
vaud said:
Madeira is very nice. Some great drives to be had and easy to get away from too many tourists.
Visit the markets in the town.
Restaurant: Beef and Wines in Funchal is very nice; very good wine list (if you like wine)
A shame the airport is so scary! Visit the markets in the town.
Restaurant: Beef and Wines in Funchal is very nice; very good wine list (if you like wine)
Funchal is lovely and, as you say, the markets are pretty amazing.
Phil. said:
A good decision given what’s floating around social media at the moment.
Shnozz, welcome you views on the following since you are on the ground.
I was due to fly in to Corvera on Saturday. As you know I’m based in the Cartagena municipality. Because I’m not a resident and therefore not traveling to my primary residence even though I own it, I’m now unsure if they’ll let me to pass in to the Cartagena municipality from the airport. I’ve been new checking various web sites today but can’t find clarity. I have until 4pm tomorrow to decide whether to cancel.
Hi Phil.Shnozz, welcome you views on the following since you are on the ground.
I was due to fly in to Corvera on Saturday. As you know I’m based in the Cartagena municipality. Because I’m not a resident and therefore not traveling to my primary residence even though I own it, I’m now unsure if they’ll let me to pass in to the Cartagena municipality from the airport. I’ve been new checking various web sites today but can’t find clarity. I have until 4pm tomorrow to decide whether to cancel.
As you highlight, it's ambiguous and has not (yet) been clarified officially as far as I know.
As you say, non-primary residence so technically considered a normal tourist holiday. Must have a justifiable reason to enter the region under lockdown....well is flying in justifiable?! Perhaps not...but then your end destination is outside of the locked down municipalities. Is it "essential travel", whereby you can remain on main roads only for passage through? Strictly speaking, again probably not.
That said, in the previous lockdown one of very few exemptions was airport pick ups/drop offs and, whilst its yet to be clarified, I cannot see this less intrusive lockdown not providing the same exemption for that purpose. Obviously you will have tickets and luggage with you to show the nature of the journey.
Sorry I cannot give you anything more than you probably already know. In short, literal interpretation of the rules suggest you wouldn't be allowed in terms of "entry" into the locked down region but you are technically landing there and then only requiring passage through to a non-locked down municipality - the fact is you shouldn't be allowed entry into Corvera, but if the flight lands there you are wanting to exit rather than enter!
I have heard informally that a further announcement is due this afternoon which might give you some clarification. Otherwise you might be best to get in touch with the authorities, although this is Spain and, well, you know..
LuS1fer said:
I think the avaerage flu deaths, year on year, are in the 40 thousands. This year, way less but similar Covid numbers.
Does anyone know if the Covid test actually tests for Covid not "anything remotely viral"?
Flu Deaths on average in the UK are 17,000 annually.Does anyone know if the Covid test actually tests for Covid not "anything remotely viral"?
Covid-19 deaths for the UK in the last 9 months are exceeding 45,000
Yes the Covid-19 test is to test for Covid-19.
Shnozz said:
Phil. said:
A good decision given what’s floating around social media at the moment.
Shnozz, welcome you views on the following since you are on the ground.
I was due to fly in to Corvera on Saturday. As you know I’m based in the Cartagena municipality. Because I’m not a resident and therefore not traveling to my primary residence even though I own it, I’m now unsure if they’ll let me to pass in to the Cartagena municipality from the airport. I’ve been new checking various web sites today but can’t find clarity. I have until 4pm tomorrow to decide whether to cancel.
Hi Phil.Shnozz, welcome you views on the following since you are on the ground.
I was due to fly in to Corvera on Saturday. As you know I’m based in the Cartagena municipality. Because I’m not a resident and therefore not traveling to my primary residence even though I own it, I’m now unsure if they’ll let me to pass in to the Cartagena municipality from the airport. I’ve been new checking various web sites today but can’t find clarity. I have until 4pm tomorrow to decide whether to cancel.
As you highlight, it's ambiguous and has not (yet) been clarified officially as far as I know.
As you say, non-primary residence so technically considered a normal tourist holiday. Must have a justifiable reason to enter the region under lockdown....well is flying in justifiable?! Perhaps not...but then your end destination is outside of the locked down municipalities. Is it "essential travel", whereby you can remain on main roads only for passage through? Strictly speaking, again probably not.
That said, in the previous lockdown one of very few exemptions was airport pick ups/drop offs and, whilst its yet to be clarified, I cannot see this less intrusive lockdown not providing the same exemption for that purpose. Obviously you will have tickets and luggage with you to show the nature of the journey.
Sorry I cannot give you anything more than you probably already know. In short, literal interpretation of the rules suggest you wouldn't be allowed in terms of "entry" into the locked down region but you are technically landing there and then only requiring passage through to a non-locked down municipality - the fact is you shouldn't be allowed entry into Corvera, but if the flight lands there you are wanting to exit rather than enter!
I have heard informally that a further announcement is due this afternoon which might give you some clarification. Otherwise you might be best to get in touch with the authorities, although this is Spain and, well, you know..
We’ve just received the following clarification from the La Manga Club owners association who tend to pass their communications via lawyers before publishing:
‘’For the moment, the Murcia government have decided not to close it borders, so travel into other regions, e.g. Valencia (where Alicante airport is located) is allowed. Entry into some municipalities in Murcia, with high levels of coronavirus infections (Totana, Fortuna, and Abanilla), is restricted. The Cartagena municipality is currently unrestricted.’’
It appears the local press have got it wrong for now.
Phil. said:
Many thanks Shnozz
We’ve just received the following clarification from the La Manga Club owners association who tend to pass their communications via lawyers before publishing:
‘’For the moment, the Murcia government have decided not to close it borders, so travel into other regions, e.g. Valencia (where Alicante airport is located) is allowed. Entry into some municipalities in Murcia, with high levels of coronavirus infections (Totana, Fortuna, and Abanilla), is restricted. The Cartagena municipality is currently unrestricted.’’
It appears the local press have got it wrong for now.
Hi Phil. That certainly is very different from what has been reported here?! We’ve just received the following clarification from the La Manga Club owners association who tend to pass their communications via lawyers before publishing:
‘’For the moment, the Murcia government have decided not to close it borders, so travel into other regions, e.g. Valencia (where Alicante airport is located) is allowed. Entry into some municipalities in Murcia, with high levels of coronavirus infections (Totana, Fortuna, and Abanilla), is restricted. The Cartagena municipality is currently unrestricted.’’
It appears the local press have got it wrong for now.
My understanding was that Murcia had restricted mobility among its entire 45 municipalities so unless it could be shown it was essential travel you were confined to your own municipality. You would therefore have unrestricted access around Cartagena (outside of curfew hours) but not be allowed access into other municipalities. The airport trip is the grey area as of course Corvera falls within Murcia city municipality.
In terms of our region, last night it was announced from midnight this evening Valencia region will close its borders for (initially) a one week period. So travel to and from Alicante airport could prove problematic. We do not have the same level of inter-municipality restriction, just confined to the Valencia region. That said, all surrounding provinces had already closed borders with our region so in effect we were land-locked by the closures anyway. It seems the main driving force is the forthcoming bank holiday weekends and the need to avoid Madrileños from being able to entering between the bridge weekends.
On that point, however, it suggests that the Madrileños could travel through a "closed" region to then enter Valencia region if it did not have a formal border restriction. This suggests to me that free travel through "closed" areas is deemed acceptable if you can show proof of your final destination being elsewhere.
As I said yesterday, my gut feeling is that you should have no issue whatsoever, but the laws are far from clear as can be seen.
Good luck and let us know how you fair! 24 degrees today just as a little sweetener for your travel stress.
lost in espace said:
Canary Isle require a negative test from 10 days. Going to put a lot of people off travelling, but we might be in lockdown by then anyway!
Where did you see that? It’s not the case at the moment. https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain/ent...
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