Summer Holidays 2021

[smifffymoto]

omniflow said:

Welshbeef said:

It could be (as is the case currently in France) it is EU only permitted to travel around EU.

How about trying the old Mexico -> US trick with a twist.

Ferry to Northern Ireland
Cross the land border there to Eire
Ferry from Eire to France.

Might need some to get some Irish plates made up for your car.

You Sir,are genius.How will you explain your British passport and no proof of residency, also if you get caught making a false declaration you could spend a year in a cell, and fined up to 15000€.
Just something to demostrate how serious the French authorities are taking the border closure.
Stay away until you are invited back,it’s not fking difficult!

[Pete102]

At the moment there is a much easier, and infinitely more legal way to get into Europe without quarantine. Once you're in the Schengan area its much easier to move about.

That is, assuming, you have a good reason to travel right now.

[Deep Thought]

Bill said:

Deep Thought said:

COVID is covered in your travel insurance (assuming you ensure in advance that is part of it). All the package holiday companies are offering it and there is independent cover available also.

Covid illness is covered, isolation/cancellation due to illness is widely covered, but I can't find any policy that will cover you if a lockdown stops you going.

I would assume that would trigger a cancellation by the holiday provider - assuming its a package holiday (which is what we booked for that reason).

[Deep Thought]

"Covid: Boris Johnson 'optimistic' about summer holiday prospects"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55890224

[Bill]

Deep Thought said:

I would assume that would trigger a cancellation by the holiday provider - assuming its a package holiday (which is what we booked for that reason).

Fair point.

[omniflow]

smifffymoto said:

You Sir,are genius.How will you explain your British passport and no proof of residency, also if you get caught making a false declaration you could spend a year in a cell, and fined up to 15000€.
Just something to demostrate how serious the French authorities are taking the border closure.
Stay away until you are invited back,it’s not fking difficult!

Well - apart from the fact that it wasn't actually a serious suggestion - you shouldn't need your passport to travel from Ireland to France.

[Tyre Smoke]

omniflow said:

smifffymoto said:

You Sir,are genius.How will you explain your British passport and no proof of residency, also if you get caught making a false declaration you could spend a year in a cell, and fined up to 15000€.
Just something to demostrate how serious the French authorities are taking the border closure.
Stay away until you are invited back,it’s not fking difficult!

Well - apart from the fact that it wasn't actually a serious suggestion - you shouldn't need your passport to travel from Ireland to France.

Pretty certain you do. Since the Republic isn't in Schengen.

[vaud]

"Ireland is not part of the Schengen Area, which means that if you travel to the Schengen Area from Ireland, you pass through an immigration checkpoint and have to show your passport or national identity card"

[smifffymoto]

omniflow said:

smifffymoto said:

You Sir,are genius.How will you explain your British passport and no proof of residency, also if you get caught making a false declaration you could spend a year in a cell, and fined up to 15000€.
Just something to demostrate how serious the French authorities are taking the border closure.
Stay away until you are invited back,it’s not fking difficult!

Well - apart from the fact that it wasn't actually a serious suggestion - you shouldn't need your passport to travel from Ireland to France.

Apologies,I lumped you in the category of “Wackadoodle” nutters. There are plenty whom come up with numerous crack pot ways to circumvent the lockdown.

On a side note,it is all forbidden to leave France without a compelling reason.

[elise2000]

smifffymoto said:

omniflow said:

smifffymoto said:

You Sir,are genius.How will you explain your British passport and no proof of residency, also if you get caught making a false declaration you could spend a year in a cell, and fined up to 15000€.
Just something to demostrate how serious the French authorities are taking the border closure.
Stay away until you are invited back,it’s not fking difficult!

Well - apart from the fact that it wasn't actually a serious suggestion - you shouldn't need your passport to travel from Ireland to France.

Apologies,I lumped you in the category of “Wackadoodle” nutters. There are plenty whom come up with numerous crack pot ways to circumvent the lockdown.

On a side note,it is all forbidden to leave France without a compelling reason.

Is the fact that it’s France not enough of a compelling reason?

[omniflow]

Back on track for a moment.

I've had a complete turn-around in my thinking and have decided that a weeks holiday in England is something worth looking forward to. Somewhere with a different view out of the window (preferably a sea view) and the ability to walk to restaurants / takeaways, coupled with the "you're on holiday - treat yourself" mentality towards excess food and drink makes it a more attractive proposition than staying at home.

The two big questions that remain are where, and when.

From the quick search I had yesterday, there is still availability - but I think I need to nail it this week.

From the when perspective - I suspect that the later we leave it, the more chance there is of relative "normality". However, I need something in the calendar that I can start to look forward to, and the end of September is just too far away for that. I think I'm going to go for last week in June, find somewhere with an outside sitting area and focus on takeaways. Maybe decent restaurants will still be doing takeaways at that point.

I wish to avoid anywhere with the potential to screw things up, so that rules out Scotland and Wales (not being rude about those places, but there is a distinct possibility that they will have different rules / not allow people in). Cornwall and Devon will be mobbed, so they're out too. I'm thinking of somewhere on the East Coast, maybe as far north as Northumberland.

[Pete102]

omniflow said:

Back on track for a moment.

I've had a complete turn-around in my thinking and have decided that a weeks holiday in England is something worth looking forward to. Somewhere with a different view out of the window (preferably a sea view) and the ability to walk to restaurants / takeaways, coupled with the "you're on holiday - treat yourself" mentality towards excess food and drink makes it a more attractive proposition than staying at home.

The two big questions that remain are where, and when.

From the quick search I had yesterday, there is still availability - but I think I need to nail it this week.

From the when perspective - I suspect that the later we leave it, the more chance there is of relative "normality". However, I need something in the calendar that I can start to look forward to, and the end of September is just too far away for that. I think I'm going to go for last week in June, find somewhere with an outside sitting area and focus on takeaways. Maybe decent restaurants will still be doing takeaways at that point.

I wish to avoid anywhere with the potential to screw things up, so that rules out Scotland and Wales (not being rude about those places, but there is a distinct possibility that they will have different rules / not allow people in). Cornwall and Devon will be mobbed, so they're out too. I'm thinking of somewhere on the East Coast, maybe as far north as Northumberland.

East coast is my neck of the woods, so to speak. If you're going that way, look at Northumberland down to Whitby / Robin Hoods Bay. Below there and you stray into the realms of Bridlington, Hornsea, Cleethorpes, Skegness etc. (Not really my cup of tea for a weeks long break!).

Also, staying North of Scarborough gives you easy access to the Yorkshire Dales and York if you fancy something different for a day.

[Vasco]

Norfolk, Dorset, Cumbria....?

[Bill]

We were thinking about Northumberland as the coast and castles look spectacular but figure the weather in Cornwall is likely to be better.

[RammyMP]

Bill said:

We were thinking about Northumberland as the coast and castles look spectacular but figure the weather in Cornwall is likely to be better.

We went to Northumberland last August, we were lucky with the weather and it wasn’t too busy so we’re going again this July. Fingers crossed it will be the same but I doubt it!

[The Leaper]

Bill said:

We were thinking about Northumberland as the coast and castles look spectacular but figure the weather in Cornwall is likely to be better.

I think for 2021 a lot of people will be scared off of Devon and Cornwall because of the anticipated crowds. Maybe it's possible to predict that Scotland, Lake District and Northumberland in that order could be OK.

Wife and I had 4 nights in Northumberland July 2015, excellent trip. We stayed at The Dunstanborough Castle Hotel in Embleton, a good base, excellent pub round the corner too. We visited Alnwick Castle, Crag House (great long drive round the grounds there), Bamburgh Caste and beach, and the Farne Islands, so a busy time. Weather was good too.

It was a long drive though from Surrey!

R.

[Bill]

We're on the south coast and going away with SiL and her two who aren't as robust as our lot so wimped out slightly. Annoyingly we were considering it last year but decided on France only to have the rug pulled from under us at the last minute due to the need to isolate. By the time we changed plans availability was poor and we'd given up.

[ben5575]

Pete102 said:

East coast is my neck of the woods, so to speak. If you're going that way, look at Northumberland down to Whitby / Robin Hoods Bay. Below there and you stray into the realms of Bridlington, Hornsea, Cleethorpes, Skegness etc. (Not really my cup of tea for a weeks long break!).

Also, staying North of Scarborough gives you easy access to the Yorkshire Dales and York if you fancy something different for a day.

My neck of the woods as well, this man talks sense.

I would perhaps look to stay in RHB if you need the sea as it's far quieter and drive to Whitby which is absolutely rammed peak season. As in rammed.

They are also quite isolated with not much around them, it takes an hour just to get anywhere (look at a map!)

How about staying in land? - say Richmond/Thirsk and day tripping to Whitby etc, you can also get to York, Harrogate, Ripon, Helmsley, Malton, Masham (beer) a lot easier. You also have The Forbidden Corner (a must see) and Lightwater valley for the kids.

Some of the best driving roads in England in Wensleydale, Teesdale, Swaledale on your doorstep too

I've never really clicked with Northumberland for some reason. It's c.45 mins away from me and I've never felt the need to go there more that 4 or 5 times in my life. I am very much in the minority on that however.

[Jaguar steve]

2019 saw some 74m passenger movements in and out of the UK.

Let's assume perhaps half of those were UK residents going aboard for a holiday and assume that in 2021 the majority will be reluctant to do so and will chose a UK break instead. That's gonna mean prices skyrocketing and gridlock everywhere.

Nightmare.

[monkfish1]

omniflow said:

Back on track for a moment.

I've had a complete turn-around in my thinking and have decided that a weeks holiday in England is something worth looking forward to. Somewhere with a different view out of the window (preferably a sea view) and the ability to walk to restaurants / takeaways, coupled with the "you're on holiday - treat yourself" mentality towards excess food and drink makes it a more attractive proposition than staying at home.

The two big questions that remain are where, and when.

From the quick search I had yesterday, there is still availability - but I think I need to nail it this week.

From the when perspective - I suspect that the later we leave it, the more chance there is of relative "normality". However, I need something in the calendar that I can start to look forward to, and the end of September is just too far away for that. I think I'm going to go for last week in June, find somewhere with an outside sitting area and focus on takeaways. Maybe decent restaurants will still be doing takeaways at that point.

I wish to avoid anywhere with the potential to screw things up, so that rules out Scotland and Wales (not being rude about those places, but there is a distinct possibility that they will have different rules / not allow people in). Cornwall and Devon will be mobbed, so they're out too. I'm thinking of somewhere on the East Coast, maybe as far north as Northumberland.

Not specifically aimed at you, but how are you dealing with the "Boris puts us into lockdown" element.

I cant speak for everyone, but forking out a good chunk of cash for a week somewhere and then losing it because i cant get there, is rather limiting the options?