Summer Holidays 2021
Discussion
I’m double jabbed but currently have Covid, I’d by knackered for going abroad at the start of the summer holidays as I’d return a positive test. We’re booked into a cottage in Northumberland going a week on Friday, if the wife picks it up off me and tests positive in the next few days it puts that in jeopardy as we’d need to isolate for another 10 days.
We’re far from being out of this s
t at the moment.
We’re far from being out of this s
t at the moment.Phil. said:
Quite a few changes over the weekend.
Spain and the Balearics require a PCR test or fully vaccinated for entry for Brits from the 28th. Partly prompted I expect by a bunch of Spanish school children who visited Mallorca with Covid upsetting the locals.
Portugal now require all Brits to quarantine for 14 days unless fully vaccinated. Plus you still need a negative test to board a plane to Portugal but now it can be a PCR or LFT.
Merkel trying to ban all UK tourists from entering the Schengen area. Let’s hope Spain, Greece etc. ignore this silliness.
How is this applied to families travelling with children? Both parents could be fully vaccinated but children won’t be … I’ve not seen any mention of age limits.Spain and the Balearics require a PCR test or fully vaccinated for entry for Brits from the 28th. Partly prompted I expect by a bunch of Spanish school children who visited Mallorca with Covid upsetting the locals.
Portugal now require all Brits to quarantine for 14 days unless fully vaccinated. Plus you still need a negative test to board a plane to Portugal but now it can be a PCR or LFT.
Merkel trying to ban all UK tourists from entering the Schengen area. Let’s hope Spain, Greece etc. ignore this silliness.
Edited by Phil. on Monday 28th June 10:29
It would be pretty miserable to go on Holliday and have to spend 2 weeks in quarantine because children aren’t vaccinated..
i suspect that if spain/italy/portugal/italy dont follow the EU guidance that merkel is trying to do , germany and france and other eu nations will have to back down - because it will be impossible for them to police, unless they reintroduce border controls for not only for foreign, but also its own EU neighbours to try and prevent delta from spreading - while the others will enjoy massive tourism and money, those following the guidance wont and yet still get hit with the delta variant as germans /french/dutch etc flock home from the same destinations we and the rest of the outside EU world will be going to. its obvious that no amount of test and trace will stop its spread, just look at australia at the moment and they dont have any open borders because they are surrounded by sea, and can test everyone coming in at the airports - the disaster that is the EU vaccination program is now catching up with them.
Chris Type R said:
Does anyone know what the [current] rule would be for children ? A negative PCR or would they be exempt ?
(specifically Canary Islands)
EDIT: At this point in time it appears that Jet2 are not flying to Amber/Red destinations. https://www.jet2.com/flights/safe-travel/travel-re...
It seems there are two different rules. Under 6 years are exempt from tests in respect of accommodation requirements. It’s likely that under 12 years will be exempt from entry, if you are using private accommodation when the changes occur. (specifically Canary Islands)
EDIT: At this point in time it appears that Jet2 are not flying to Amber/Red destinations. https://www.jet2.com/flights/safe-travel/travel-re...
Edited by Chris Type R on Monday 28th June 10:41
‘’In some parts of Spain, regardless of your country of origin, tourist accommodation providers may require you to present evidence either of a negative test, of being fully vaccinated or of having had and recovered from COVID-19 in the last 6 months. This currently applies in the Canary Islands, see the Canary Island tourist board website for details. Children under the age of 6 are exempt from testing. Tests permitted are PCR (RT-PCR for COVID-19), Transcription Mediated Amplification (TMA), and Antigen tests. You should check with your accommodation provider prior to travel.’’
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain/ent...
jesusbuiltmycar said:
How is this applied to families travelling with children? Both parents could be fully vaccinated but children won’t be … I’ve not seen any mention of age limits.
It would be pretty miserable to go on Holliday and have to spend 2 weeks in quarantine because children aren’t vaccinated..
The formal advice doesn’t clarify this situation. It would be crazy though to require the kids to be vaccinated too. You might need to write to the Portuguese Embassy in the UK. It would be pretty miserable to go on Holliday and have to spend 2 weeks in quarantine because children aren’t vaccinated..
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/portugal/...
Phil. said:
Chris Type R said:
Does anyone know what the [current] rule would be for children ? A negative PCR or would they be exempt ?
(specifically Canary Islands)
EDIT: At this point in time it appears that Jet2 are not flying to Amber/Red destinations. https://www.jet2.com/flights/safe-travel/travel-re...
It seems there are two different rules. Under 6 years are exempt from tests in respect of accommodation requirements. It’s likely that under 12 years will be exempt from entry, if you are using private accommodation when the changes occur. (specifically Canary Islands)
EDIT: At this point in time it appears that Jet2 are not flying to Amber/Red destinations. https://www.jet2.com/flights/safe-travel/travel-re...
Edited by Chris Type R on Monday 28th June 10:41
‘’In some parts of Spain, regardless of your country of origin, tourist accommodation providers may require you to present evidence either of a negative test, of being fully vaccinated or of having had and recovered from COVID-19 in the last 6 months. This currently applies in the Canary Islands, see the Canary Island tourist board website for details. Children under the age of 6 are exempt from testing. Tests permitted are PCR (RT-PCR for COVID-19), Transcription Mediated Amplification (TMA), and Antigen tests. You should check with your accommodation provider prior to travel.’’
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain/ent...
worsy said:
Chris Stott said:
craig1912 said:
mattyn1 said:
So have been working through the pros/cons of my holiday to Turkey! Would appreciate if someone would sanity check this please for four of us (inc 2 x u18) flying with BA…..
- Currently Turkey is Red so flights home prohibited.
- Need Turkey to be moved to amber at least…. Let’s pretend it does…...
- entry currently to Turkey requires negative PCR test….. £60 ea.
- if amber regs don’t change we all need negative PCR test to travel home at £100 ea.
- if Turkey was to remain amber we would need to quarantine at home abs test day 2 and day 8……. £120 ea.
So approx £1200 total. I still need Turkey to move from Red to amber. If it went green then only the pre travel test needed. Danger of going back to Red while we are on holiday and the gov facility quarantine costs that brings.
Decision point in two weeks or so at the next gov announcement…… but do I have the requirements correct?
Costs based on this:
https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb/information/i...
It doesn’t have to be a PCR test on way home. A lateral flow test is fine.- Currently Turkey is Red so flights home prohibited.
- Need Turkey to be moved to amber at least…. Let’s pretend it does…...
- entry currently to Turkey requires negative PCR test….. £60 ea.
- if amber regs don’t change we all need negative PCR test to travel home at £100 ea.
- if Turkey was to remain amber we would need to quarantine at home abs test day 2 and day 8……. £120 ea.
So approx £1200 total. I still need Turkey to move from Red to amber. If it went green then only the pre travel test needed. Danger of going back to Red while we are on holiday and the gov facility quarantine costs that brings.
Decision point in two weeks or so at the next gov announcement…… but do I have the requirements correct?
Costs based on this:
https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb/information/i...
Edited by mattyn1 on Saturday 26th June 09:47
I decided last winter that I'd give foreign holidays a miss for this year, and stay in the UK for a change. Just so very pleased that I didn't get my hopes up with the thought of foreign climes as I don't think I would have coped very well with all the sudden changes, cancellations etc.
Roll on 2022.
Roll on 2022.
tgr said:
Just to check my understanding: I can holiday in France having been fully vaccinated without quarantining on arrival? I understand I need to quarantine on return, that’s a separate issue.
Correct. "All travellers arriving from [the UK] must present the transport company and border control authorities with a negative PCR test less than 72 hours prior to departure (first flight departure in case of connecting travel) or a negative antigen test less than 48 hours prior to departure (first flight departure in case of connecting flight). Children aged below eleven years are exempt from testing.
Vaccinated travellers must also provide:
A sworn statement certifying the absence of COVID-19 symptoms and of any contact with a confirmed case of COVID-19;
Proof of their vaccination status."
https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actualites/L-actu-du...
Just got back from a couple of weeks in the Canaries and if you can work from home for your 10 days isolation on return I'd say go for it right now. You'll never get a better time to travel.
Airport and flights both ways were empty. From getting off the plane to getting in the car both ways was 20 mins. The resorts were mainly open with enough people to give some atmosphere but all the facilities like sunbeds etc were nice and free.
Yeh, you've got to splash out a bit on pointless testing but the costs of those don't come anywhere near the savings one gets on the deals out there.
Flying out, no tests required. Entry into hotel test free if you're double jabbed. Only thing they check other than the usual going out is you've done your Spanish locator form.
Coming home. You need a test to get on the plane, lateral flow with do. All the doctors/ pharmacies in the resorts are doing them, just walk in, 25E per head, results in 5 mins. You also need to book your 2 and 8 day test back here. £85/head. Once booked and paid for that gives you a reference number to put on UK form. Once all that is complete you get a QR code to show at UK passport control before going through the usual gates.
I'd anticipated massive delays at Stansted but all very quick.
So £220 in test for the two of us against a saving of half priced flights, hotel and car hire. Billy bargain.
Airport and flights both ways were empty. From getting off the plane to getting in the car both ways was 20 mins. The resorts were mainly open with enough people to give some atmosphere but all the facilities like sunbeds etc were nice and free.
Yeh, you've got to splash out a bit on pointless testing but the costs of those don't come anywhere near the savings one gets on the deals out there.
Flying out, no tests required. Entry into hotel test free if you're double jabbed. Only thing they check other than the usual going out is you've done your Spanish locator form.
Coming home. You need a test to get on the plane, lateral flow with do. All the doctors/ pharmacies in the resorts are doing them, just walk in, 25E per head, results in 5 mins. You also need to book your 2 and 8 day test back here. £85/head. Once booked and paid for that gives you a reference number to put on UK form. Once all that is complete you get a QR code to show at UK passport control before going through the usual gates.
I'd anticipated massive delays at Stansted but all very quick.
So £220 in test for the two of us against a saving of half priced flights, hotel and car hire. Billy bargain.
rider73 said:
i suspect that if spain/italy/portugal/italy dont follow the EU guidance that merkel is trying to do , germany and france and other eu nations will have to back down -
Italy and Portugal have already announced mandatory quarantine for UK tourists (Portugal with some leeway for those vaccinated) so I can't see anyone backing down sadly...Vasco said:
I decided last winter that I'd give foreign holidays a miss for this year, and stay in the UK for a change. Just so very pleased that I didn't get my hopes up with the thought of foreign climes as I don't think I would have coped very well with all the sudden changes, cancellations etc.
Roll on 2022.
Same here.Roll on 2022.
In January I estimated that 2021 would be a moving target, a hassle, and a pain in the backside for foreign holidays, so I haven’t even looked or considered anything.
I would rather just write the year off than get involved in this debacle.
Sadly, my decision is turning out to be correct and it will likely be a complete s
t-show until the end of the year, and believe me, I would rather have been totally wrong about all this.Harry H said:
Just got back from a couple of weeks in the Canaries and if you can work from home for your 10 days isolation on return I'd say go for it right now. You'll never get a better time to travel.
Airport and flights both ways were empty. From getting off the plane to getting in the car both ways was 20 mins. The resorts were mainly open with enough people to give some atmosphere but all the facilities like sunbeds etc were nice and free.
Yeh, you've got to splash out a bit on pointless testing but the costs of those don't come anywhere near the savings one gets on the deals out there.
Flying out, no tests required. Entry into hotel test free if you're double jabbed. Only thing they check other than the usual going out is you've done your Spanish locator form.
Coming home. You need a test to get on the plane, lateral flow with do. All the doctors/ pharmacies in the resorts are doing them, just walk in, 25E per head, results in 5 mins. You also need to book your 2 and 8 day test back here. £85/head. Once booked and paid for that gives you a reference number to put on UK form. Once all that is complete you get a QR code to show at UK passport control before going through the usual gates.
I'd anticipated massive delays at Stansted but all very quick.
So £220 in test for the two of us against a saving of half priced flights, hotel and car hire. Billy bargain.
I’ve seen exactly the same, massive savings outweighing the cost of tests. Airport and flights both ways were empty. From getting off the plane to getting in the car both ways was 20 mins. The resorts were mainly open with enough people to give some atmosphere but all the facilities like sunbeds etc were nice and free.
Yeh, you've got to splash out a bit on pointless testing but the costs of those don't come anywhere near the savings one gets on the deals out there.
Flying out, no tests required. Entry into hotel test free if you're double jabbed. Only thing they check other than the usual going out is you've done your Spanish locator form.
Coming home. You need a test to get on the plane, lateral flow with do. All the doctors/ pharmacies in the resorts are doing them, just walk in, 25E per head, results in 5 mins. You also need to book your 2 and 8 day test back here. £85/head. Once booked and paid for that gives you a reference number to put on UK form. Once all that is complete you get a QR code to show at UK passport control before going through the usual gates.
I'd anticipated massive delays at Stansted but all very quick.
So £220 in test for the two of us against a saving of half priced flights, hotel and car hire. Billy bargain.
The only problem I have is the quarantine for amber destinations in the U.K. which hopefully will be gone soon.
Lord Marylebone said:
Vasco said:
I decided last winter that I'd give foreign holidays a miss for this year, and stay in the UK for a change. Just so very pleased that I didn't get my hopes up with the thought of foreign climes as I don't think I would have coped very well with all the sudden changes, cancellations etc.
Roll on 2022.
Same here.Roll on 2022.
In January I estimated that 2021 would be a moving target, a hassle, and a pain in the backside for foreign holidays, so I haven’t even looked or considered anything.
I would rather just write the year off than get involved in this debacle.
Sadly, my decision is turning out to be correct and it will likely be a complete s
t-show until the end of the year, and believe me, I would rather have been totally wrong about all this.Luckily we haven't told the kids so they wont be disappointed as they don't know but it seems a fruitless exercise.
Even if Boris does put France etc on the green list its blindingly obvious they don't want us to go so its now even worse.
MiniMan64 said:
Hub said:
MiniMan64 said:
We have now begun the great Easyjet refund merry go-round.
Flights to Malaga already moved from last year and the holiday they were planned for no longer exists. They're website is hideously misleading in terms of what will be refunded and what won't. I assume no one else has had any luck along these lines?
Moving it does us no good at all as we've no future plans or need to fly with them
I'd be extremely surprised if you manage to get a refund if the flights are running but you don't want to go - usually you'll only get one if they cancel the flights.Flights to Malaga already moved from last year and the holiday they were planned for no longer exists. They're website is hideously misleading in terms of what will be refunded and what won't. I assume no one else has had any luck along these lines?
Moving it does us no good at all as we've no future plans or need to fly with them
Seems mad considering the official government advice is not to travel. Problem is the villa we’re supposed to be going to is no longer there, the people we’re travelling with aren’t going and we’ve got a grands worth of EasyJet flights that are of zero use to us now. Even if we did go, isolation on return isn’t an option for my wife working in the NHS.
Very s
t all around and I’m going to be pissed watching that money get pissed away. - I'm won't actually celebrate fully of course until the money is the account!!
Lord Marylebone said:
Same here.
In January I estimated that 2021 would be a moving target, a hassle, and a pain in the backside for foreign holidays, so I haven’t even looked or considered anything.
I would rather just write the year off than get involved in this debacle.
Sadly, my decision is turning out to be correct and it will likely be a complete st-show until the end of the year, and believe me, I would rather have been totally wrong about all this.
And me. We were in Furteventura when Spain went into heavy Lockdown in March '20 - it wasn't pretty.In January I estimated that 2021 would be a moving target, a hassle, and a pain in the backside for foreign holidays, so I haven’t even looked or considered anything.
I would rather just write the year off than get involved in this debacle.
Sadly, my decision is turning out to be correct and it will likely be a complete s
t-show until the end of the year, and believe me, I would rather have been totally wrong about all this.We'd normally have spring and autumn in the Canaries, a long mid summer French road trip, another week in France with friends and maybe a couple of bargain breaks somewhere we've not been before to try a new destination out.
Written the whole lot off for the forseeable - it's not worth the aggravation of postponement or fighting to get refunds or putting any expectations on the shifting sands of restrictions. Nor is it worth the admittedly very small chance of ending up in ICU in a foreign hospital.
We've already lost a stack of cash on a cancelled yacht charter, ferry companies are becoming awkward about repeatedly postponing ferry booking credits and apart from all that I'm not seeing any point in going if you can't be sure you're going to be able to have a bloody good time when you get there.
El stovey said:
Harry H said:
Just got back from a couple of weeks in the Canaries and if you can work from home for your 10 days isolation on return I'd say go for it right now. You'll never get a better time to travel.
Airport and flights both ways were empty. From getting off the plane to getting in the car both ways was 20 mins. The resorts were mainly open with enough people to give some atmosphere but all the facilities like sunbeds etc were nice and free.
Yeh, you've got to splash out a bit on pointless testing but the costs of those don't come anywhere near the savings one gets on the deals out there.
Flying out, no tests required. Entry into hotel test free if you're double jabbed. Only thing they check other than the usual going out is you've done your Spanish locator form.
Coming home. You need a test to get on the plane, lateral flow with do. All the doctors/ pharmacies in the resorts are doing them, just walk in, 25E per head, results in 5 mins. You also need to book your 2 and 8 day test back here. £85/head. Once booked and paid for that gives you a reference number to put on UK form. Once all that is complete you get a QR code to show at UK passport control before going through the usual gates.
I'd anticipated massive delays at Stansted but all very quick.
So £220 in test for the two of us against a saving of half priced flights, hotel and car hire. Billy bargain.
I’ve seen exactly the same, massive savings outweighing the cost of tests. Airport and flights both ways were empty. From getting off the plane to getting in the car both ways was 20 mins. The resorts were mainly open with enough people to give some atmosphere but all the facilities like sunbeds etc were nice and free.
Yeh, you've got to splash out a bit on pointless testing but the costs of those don't come anywhere near the savings one gets on the deals out there.
Flying out, no tests required. Entry into hotel test free if you're double jabbed. Only thing they check other than the usual going out is you've done your Spanish locator form.
Coming home. You need a test to get on the plane, lateral flow with do. All the doctors/ pharmacies in the resorts are doing them, just walk in, 25E per head, results in 5 mins. You also need to book your 2 and 8 day test back here. £85/head. Once booked and paid for that gives you a reference number to put on UK form. Once all that is complete you get a QR code to show at UK passport control before going through the usual gates.
I'd anticipated massive delays at Stansted but all very quick.
So £220 in test for the two of us against a saving of half priced flights, hotel and car hire. Billy bargain.
The only problem I have is the quarantine for amber destinations in the U.K. which hopefully will be gone soon.
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