Travel destinations for the un-vaccinated

[Slackline]

DangerDoom said:

Boringvolvodriver said:

pincher said:

Boringvolvodriver said:

... but of course the vaccinated who don’t have to undertake a rest may actually be positive.

Which just underlines the complete nonsense of it all.

Yup. Just makes one wonder why they do it of course.

I also think it's a bit nuts, but... is the rationale that the vaccinated are less likely to end up in hospital? Haven't looked at the stats for aaaaages but I seem to remember that being borne out by hospital admissions; something like 4 out of 5 (covid related) hospital admissions at some point last year were unvaccinated.

You maybe thinking of when it was decided that unvaccinated 'may' need more care so they should go straight to ICU. Then, a week later, it was loudly announced that most people in ICU were unvaccinated...

Good to hear Vietnam is available again. Never been there but always fancied it.

[Mark V GTD]

Slackline said:

Good to hear Vietnam is available again. Never been there but always fancied it.

Yes - highly recommended - they do not differentiate between vaccinated and un-vaccinated, nor do they require any tests either before starting your journey there on arrival. Basically back to 2019 although the visa free period is only 15 days at the moment (although you can get a longer on on line before you travel if desired):

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/vietnam

[Biggus thingus]

Slackline said:

DangerDoom said:

Boringvolvodriver said:

pincher said:

Boringvolvodriver said:

... but of course the vaccinated who don’t have to undertake a rest may actually be positive.

Which just underlines the complete nonsense of it all.

Yup. Just makes one wonder why they do it of course.

I also think it's a bit nuts, but... is the rationale that the vaccinated are less likely to end up in hospital? Haven't looked at the stats for aaaaages but I seem to remember that being borne out by hospital admissions; something like 4 out of 5 (covid related) hospital admissions at some point last year were unvaccinated.

You maybe thinking of when it was decided that unvaccinated 'may' need more care so they should go straight to ICU. Then, a week later, it was loudly announced that most people in ICU were unvaccinated...

Good to hear Vietnam is available again. Never been there but always fancied it.

A bit like this?

[pincher]

Italy dropping all entry restrictions as from tomorrow.

https://www.traveloffpath.com/italy-removes-all-co...

[Boringvolvodriver]

pincher said:

Italy dropping all entry restrictions as from tomorrow.

https://www.traveloffpath.com/italy-removes-all-co...

Bit late for us - moved our Sorrento trip to Croatia. Last day today. Absolutely lovely and no no signs of any stupid restrictions.

Apart from the odd Person wearing a mask just like 2019 although I suspect less tourists.

Long may it continue

[pincher]

Turkey on the list now but not sure when it is effective from.

[Boringvolvodriver]

I noted that Barbados have now removed the requirement for 5 days quarantine in an approved hotel although you still need a “in clinic” test before you go.

Cyprus have now got rid of their requirement to take a test on arrival and then quarantine in your hotel until a negative result came through.

In both cases, I am not sure how they thought that getting from the airport to your hotel was safe though…………

[Chicken Chaser]

Looking at visiting France in August, but as per their rules of being vaxxed, unless I have a booster this weekend then I'll be classed as unvaxxed as I didn't have a winter booster and I'm right on the 9 months threshold since the last one..

Anyone reckon this will change?

[jameswills]

pincher said:

Germany and Cyprus just been added to the ‘no requirements’ list

Slowly, but surely….

As far as I can tell nothing has changed for non-EU nationals (us British) entering Germany. Still need to be vaccinated and test

https://uk.diplo.de/uk-en/02/coronavirus?openAccor...


Can anyone confirm? Travel sites don’t seem to be saying the same as the German embassy.

[Chicken Chaser]

jameswills said:

As far as I can tell nothing has changed for non-EU nationals (us British) entering Germany. Still need to be vaccinated and test

https://uk.diplo.de/uk-en/02/coronavirus?openAccor...


Can anyone confirm? Travel sites don’t seem to be saying the same as the German embassy.

Having looked at that, my eldest needs a negative test for Germany anyway given that we were going to be on the German border.

[Mark V GTD]

Seems pretty clear that U.K. citizens without the jab are not welcome to Germany yet. The Cyprus situation is very clear - all restrictions are removed.

Edited by Mark V GTD on Saturday 4th June 00:05

[paulmakin]

Trinidad and Tobago now allowing non vaccinated entry. Negative test within 48 hours of arrival, must be available for inspection on arrival but the need for a TT TravelPass is removed so presumably just pitch up at the health desks with hard copy/screen shot. When i came in back in March, paper was the go-to for the officers at the health desks. We do like paper forms

Barbados still prefers the result uploading to their app but there are additional kiosks at the arrivals hall for those unable to use the online form prior to travel. unvaccinated passengers will submit to a PCR test on arrival, prior to onward travel. Conflicting advice on visitbarbados.org as it states that quarantine is no longer mandatory for unvaccinated but also that non vaccinated passengers must quarantine for 3 days and take a a 2nd test "before they are free to enjoy Barbados fully".

This may of course change quickly and my experience this year is that the airlines have been pretty good at getting accurate and timely info out to passengers on these routes.

Public wearing of masks etc still very much in place in both but expected to be dropped soon

[pincher]

jameswills said:

pincher said:

Germany and Cyprus just been added to the ‘no requirements’ list

Slowly, but surely….

As far as I can tell nothing has changed for non-EU nationals (us British) entering Germany. Still need to be vaccinated and test

https://uk.diplo.de/uk-en/02/coronavirus?openAccor...


Can anyone confirm? Travel sites don’t seem to be saying the same as the German embassy.

Looks like you could be right - for example, US citizens don’t need to be vaccinated;

[madbadger]

Still doesn’t look possible to go to the Netherlands without a booster.

Reason:
Since getting tested several times a week is not convenient, cost-effective, and safe, the EU authorities are trying to push as many people as possible to get fully vaccinated as well as receive a booster shot that would further protect them from the virus and its new Omicron variant.

Surely that is due an update!

[RizzoTheRat]

madbadger said:

Still doesn’t look possible to go to the Netherlands without a booster.

Reason:
Since getting tested several times a week is not convenient, cost-effective, and safe, the EU authorities are trying to push as many people as possible to get fully vaccinated as well as receive a booster shot that would further protect them from the virus and its new Omicron variant.

Surely that is due an update!

I thought it was still an EU entry requirement to be vaccinated?
This is the official Dutch site https://www.government.nl/topics/coronavirus-covid...

I took the Hull-Rotterdam ferry last week and was never asked for any proof of vaccination though.

[madbadger]

It looks like EU requirement is either two jabs within 270 days or once boosted you are fully vaccinated. Most places will now take a negative test if you are unvaccinated but NL do not have this as an option. With the normal 2 jab timescale it is 3 jabs only. For UK travellers. If you are coming from the EU you are fine.

[Electronicpants]

RizzoTheRat said:

madbadger said:

Still doesn’t look possible to go to the Netherlands without a booster.

Reason:
Since getting tested several times a week is not convenient, cost-effective, and safe, the EU authorities are trying to push as many people as possible to get fully vaccinated as well as receive a booster shot that would further protect them from the virus and its new Omicron variant.

Surely that is due an update!

I thought it was still an EU entry requirement to be vaccinated?
This is the official Dutch site https://www.government.nl/topics/coronavirus-covid...

I took the Hull-Rotterdam ferry last week and was never asked for any proof of vaccination though.

I was in Amsterdam at the weekend, it really was like 2019, no mention at any point of Covid, Covid passports, masks or anything else including airports and on the plane. I don't think I saw a Dutch person wearing mask the entire trip and that includes the octogenarians on absolutely rammed trams.

[RizzoTheRat]

The Dutch also accept recovery from a positive test as equivalent to a booster.

Electronicpants said:

I was in Amsterdam at the weekend, it really was like 2019, no mention at any point of Covid, Covid passports, masks or anything else including airports and on the plane. I don't think I saw a Dutch person wearing mask the entire trip and that includes the octogenarians on absolutely rammed trams.

Yeah, I had to get the bus to work this morning (Den Haag) and 1 guy was wearing one, but that's the first time I've seen anyone in a mask in a while other than oriental tourists. Currently about 350 people in hospital with COVID in NL, which looks to be about 1/3 of the UK level per population, so pretty low levels everywhere now.

[Chicken Chaser]

So is 2 jabs vaccinated then? Never received the booster and it's over 9 months since the last jab

[Mark V GTD]

madbadger said:

Still doesn’t look possible to go to the Netherlands without a booster

Very disappointed in our Dutch friends - they still regard England as an 'unsafe' country.

On the other hand (although I suspect its also mentioned in this thread) Austria have removed all Covid controls and gone back to 2019.

RizzoTheRat said:

The Dutch also accept recovery from a positive test as equivalent to a booster.

They do indeed - and I entered NL a couple of months ago using an NHS recovery pass. But my pass is due to expire after six months (June 27) so I will not be able to return to NL after that date until they change their rules and decide UK is no longer 'unsafe'!

Edited by Mark V GTD on Thursday 9th June 18:25