How quickly are new passports getting sent out?
Discussion
Amateurish said:
deckster said:
Amateurish said:
Teddy Lop said:
As we're talking passports what's the deal with the EU~10 years? I know it's probably been discussed... But ryanair gate girl held me up the other day and made a call and told me that my passport "effectively" expired that day, the day being weds 25 Jan. Passport issued April 25th 2013 and "valid" until 25 August 2023.
Everything I see online (and including Ryanair's app) I see only that a passport must be less than 10 years old and have 3 months validity remaining. Not ten years less 3 months, a clearer way of putting would be it has to be younger than 9 years and 9 months.
What's right? If ^ is right I can see why people are slipping up!
"Your passport must be:Everything I see online (and including Ryanair's app) I see only that a passport must be less than 10 years old and have 3 months validity remaining. Not ten years less 3 months, a clearer way of putting would be it has to be younger than 9 years and 9 months.
What's right? If ^ is right I can see why people are slipping up!
Issued less than 10 years before the date you enter the country (check the ‘date of issue’)
valid for at least 3 months after the day you plan to leave (check the ‘expiry date’)"
This is from gov.uk so the Ryanair staff member was wrong.
So the UK passport authority have changed their policy and passports are valid for ten years from the date of issue, regardless of when the old one expired, and existing passports are treated as only valid for ten years from the date of issue even if the expiry date is later than that.
This was all pretty well publicised and discussed at the time so it shouldn't be a surprise to anybody.
Amateurish said:
Teddy Lop said:
As we're talking passports what's the deal with the EU~10 years? I know it's probably been discussed... But ryanair gate girl held me up the other day and made a call and told me that my passport "effectively" expired that day, the day being weds 25 Jan. Passport issued April 25th 2013 and "valid" until 25 August 2023.
Everything I see online (and including Ryanair's app) I see only that a passport must be less than 10 years old and have 3 months validity remaining. Not ten years less 3 months, a clearer way of putting would be it has to be younger than 9 years and 9 months.
What's right? If ^ is right I can see why people are slipping up!
"Your passport must be:Everything I see online (and including Ryanair's app) I see only that a passport must be less than 10 years old and have 3 months validity remaining. Not ten years less 3 months, a clearer way of putting would be it has to be younger than 9 years and 9 months.
What's right? If ^ is right I can see why people are slipping up!
Issued less than 10 years before the date you enter the country (check the ‘date of issue’)
valid for at least 3 months after the day you plan to leave (check the ‘expiry date’)"
This is from gov.uk so the Ryanair staff member was wrong.
E63eeeeee... said:
Amateurish said:
"Your passport must be:
Issued less than 10 years before the date you enter the country (check the ‘date of issue’)
valid for at least 3 months after the day you plan to leave (check the ‘expiry date’)"
This is from gov.uk so the Ryanair staff member was wrong.
Obviously there are multiple ways you can implement that combination of rules, and in any case guess how many other countries base their entry policies on gov.uk guidance, so she probably wasn't. Issued less than 10 years before the date you enter the country (check the ‘date of issue’)
valid for at least 3 months after the day you plan to leave (check the ‘expiry date’)"
This is from gov.uk so the Ryanair staff member was wrong.
And we are talking about Schengen entry rules only here.
Amateurish said:
E63eeeeee... said:
Amateurish said:
"Your passport must be:
Issued less than 10 years before the date you enter the country (check the ‘date of issue’)
valid for at least 3 months after the day you plan to leave (check the ‘expiry date’)"
This is from gov.uk so the Ryanair staff member was wrong.
Obviously there are multiple ways you can implement that combination of rules, and in any case guess how many other countries base their entry policies on gov.uk guidance, so she probably wasn't. Issued less than 10 years before the date you enter the country (check the ‘date of issue’)
valid for at least 3 months after the day you plan to leave (check the ‘expiry date’)"
This is from gov.uk so the Ryanair staff member was wrong.
And we are talking about Schengen entry rules only here.
We're talking about the specific implementation of each country's entry rules. Non-EU immigration rules are reserved. The EU has issued guidance about this scenario but it's pretty clear that different countries are applying the rules differently. And not a single one of them is basing their approach on gov.uk.
E63eeeeee... said:
Amateurish said:
E63eeeeee... said:
Amateurish said:
"Your passport must be:
Issued less than 10 years before the date you enter the country (check the ‘date of issue’)
valid for at least 3 months after the day you plan to leave (check the ‘expiry date’)"
This is from gov.uk so the Ryanair staff member was wrong.
Obviously there are multiple ways you can implement that combination of rules, and in any case guess how many other countries base their entry policies on gov.uk guidance, so she probably wasn't. Issued less than 10 years before the date you enter the country (check the ‘date of issue’)
valid for at least 3 months after the day you plan to leave (check the ‘expiry date’)"
This is from gov.uk so the Ryanair staff member was wrong.
And we are talking about Schengen entry rules only here.
We're talking about the specific implementation of each country's entry rules. Non-EU immigration rules are reserved. The EU has issued guidance about this scenario but it's pretty clear that different countries are applying the rules differently. And not a single one of them is basing their approach on gov.uk.
Amateurish said:
E63eeeeee... said:
Amateurish said:
E63eeeeee... said:
Amateurish said:
"Your passport must be:
Issued less than 10 years before the date you enter the country (check the ‘date of issue’)
valid for at least 3 months after the day you plan to leave (check the ‘expiry date’)"
This is from gov.uk so the Ryanair staff member was wrong.
Obviously there are multiple ways you can implement that combination of rules, and in any case guess how many other countries base their entry policies on gov.uk guidance, so she probably wasn't. Issued less than 10 years before the date you enter the country (check the ‘date of issue’)
valid for at least 3 months after the day you plan to leave (check the ‘expiry date’)"
This is from gov.uk so the Ryanair staff member was wrong.
And we are talking about Schengen entry rules only here.
We're talking about the specific implementation of each country's entry rules. Non-EU immigration rules are reserved. The EU has issued guidance about this scenario but it's pretty clear that different countries are applying the rules differently. And not a single one of them is basing their approach on gov.uk.
Given there's a good chance that travel insurance won't cover people for travelling without checking their passport complies, perhaps you'd be willing to offer to indemnify people taking your advice.
E63eeeeee... said:
They're not wrong. They'll be implementing the rules of wherever the other end of the flight was. You seem to be arguing that your interpretation of the UK government's advice would trump the actual rules of entry of the destination country. This is a. irrational and b. likely to see you sitting in a small room in an airport until you're put on the next flight home.
Given there's a good chance that travel insurance won't cover people for travelling without checking their passport complies, perhaps you'd be willing to offer to indemnify people taking your advice.
They are wrong (and so are you), and it's not the UK govt rules, it's the European Commission. That's why I said these rules apply to Schengen arrivals.Given there's a good chance that travel insurance won't cover people for travelling without checking their passport complies, perhaps you'd be willing to offer to indemnify people taking your advice.
Here's another source for you
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/europe/renew-...
If you don't agree with this, that's your call, but no need for scaremongering.
6 passports applied for recently
Mine = 2 weeks
Wifes = 2 weeks
Kid aged 3 = 3 weeks
Kid aged 6 = 3 weeks
Kid aged 8 = 4 weeks (Wanted marriage cert?!)
Kid aged 10 = 6 weeks and still waiting, but had to wait for marriage cert back from kid aged 8, to send to a different passport office for kid aged 10
Faff having to post stuff to different offices, especially when you need to send marriage certificate for 2 kids only, to 2 different offices.
Mine = 2 weeks
Wifes = 2 weeks
Kid aged 3 = 3 weeks
Kid aged 6 = 3 weeks
Kid aged 8 = 4 weeks (Wanted marriage cert?!)
Kid aged 10 = 6 weeks and still waiting, but had to wait for marriage cert back from kid aged 8, to send to a different passport office for kid aged 10
Faff having to post stuff to different offices, especially when you need to send marriage certificate for 2 kids only, to 2 different offices.
This is going to slow things down - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64981979
E63eeeeee... said:
Amateurish said:
E63eeeeee... said:
Amateurish said:
E63eeeeee... said:
Amateurish said:
"Your passport must be:
Issued less than 10 years before the date you enter the country (check the ‘date of issue’)
valid for at least 3 months after the day you plan to leave (check the ‘expiry date’)"
This is from gov.uk so the Ryanair staff member was wrong.
Obviously there are multiple ways you can implement that combination of rules, and in any case guess how many other countries base their entry policies on gov.uk guidance, so she probably wasn't. Issued less than 10 years before the date you enter the country (check the ‘date of issue’)
valid for at least 3 months after the day you plan to leave (check the ‘expiry date’)"
This is from gov.uk so the Ryanair staff member was wrong.
And we are talking about Schengen entry rules only here.
We're talking about the specific implementation of each country's entry rules. Non-EU immigration rules are reserved. The EU has issued guidance about this scenario but it's pretty clear that different countries are applying the rules differently. And not a single one of them is basing their approach on gov.uk.
Given there's a good chance that travel insurance won't cover people for travelling without checking their passport complies, perhaps you'd be willing to offer to indemnify people taking your advice.
surveyor said:
A little late on this, but most airlines have a subscription to a specialist advice service on passports. I had an issue when I discovered that my daughters passport was due to expire a few days after we got back from the US. As we lived very close to then open Doncaster Airport I nipped around where they said she would not be allowed to travel. After I escalated it to the supervisor he looked it up and confirmed she was fine, and that he was on shift on the day of our departure.
You’ve always been allowed to do that with the US.The issue being debated is based on if the passport issued is for 10 years or 10 years + x months and the validity now of the extra months.
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