Turkey - any reason not to?

Turkey - any reason not to?

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popeyewhite

19,901 posts

120 months

Tuesday 12th March
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aturnick54 said:
Ashfordian said:
Turkey still allow (holiday) flights from Russia.

That alone is good enough for me to spend my tourist money elsewhere (and I have made this change) while they facilitate that despicable country.

Edited by Ashfordian on Saturday 17th February 14:29
I'm sure they're gutted you're going elsewhere
Thing is, your rudeness is misplaced. I mean firstly your manners reinforce his decision and secondly others will share his opinion. Reasoning not your strong point I'd guess... .

boyse7en

6,727 posts

165 months

Tuesday 12th March
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PushedDover said:
aturnick54 said:
There's no reason to avoid Turkey at all. It's a beautiful place with lots to do. I would recommend renting a car and visiting Akyaka, Bodrum and if you have time Izmir.

There are no major concerns for safety unless you are travelling to a busy city, in which case follow the usual precautions for pickpocketing, avoiding crowds etc. So basically the same as you would do travelling in any other country.

There are local elections at the end of March, which won't affect anyone travelling in summer.
Like UK then.... sadly
And France, Italy, Morocco, Germany... Any large city, anywhere in the world, has a increased risk of criminal activity than rural areas.
I found Turkey to be amazingly crime-free and felt very safe there, but then i didn't venture into the cities.

PushedDover

5,657 posts

53 months

Tuesday 12th March
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boyse7en said:
PushedDover said:
aturnick54 said:
There's no reason to avoid Turkey at all. It's a beautiful place with lots to do. I would recommend renting a car and visiting Akyaka, Bodrum and if you have time Izmir.

There are no major concerns for safety unless you are travelling to a busy city, in which case follow the usual precautions for pickpocketing, avoiding crowds etc. So basically the same as you would do travelling in any other country.

There are local elections at the end of March, which won't affect anyone travelling in summer.
Like UK then.... sadly
And France, Italy, Morocco, Germany... Any large city, anywhere in the world, has a increased risk of criminal activity than rural areas.
I found Turkey to be amazingly crime-free and felt very safe there, but then i didn't venture into the cities.
Agreed.
Back to Gocek in Turkey June. Big fan.

The OG Jester

151 posts

14 months

Tuesday 12th March
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The more I spend on this forum the more I think many folk have crawled up their own arse!

Such outrage for asking about a holiday abroad. Who gives a fk about the politics that 99.9% of us mere mortals have no influence on. Go somewhere sunny, enjoy sun, sand, sea, family, food, drink, relax and come home - seems like that is too difficult for some people. rofl

John87

477 posts

158 months

Tuesday 12th March
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I love Turkey. Went twice last year and likely 3 times this year. The only "issues" I had in terms of other nationalities were symptoms of the popularity with people from those countries. We were all inclusive in Antalya last October and most of the other hotel guests were from Russia and Germany with the entertainment and food choices reflecting that. There are a lot of Russian immigrants in the area who moved to escape the regime in the country and many arrived for a weekend break when we were there. My main take away is that they take water polo very seriously.

KAgantua

3,873 posts

131 months

Tuesday 12th March
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The OG Jester said:
The more I spend on this forum the more I think many folk have crawled up their own arse!

Such outrage for asking about a holiday abroad. Who gives a fk about the politics that 99.9% of us mere mortals have no influence on. Go somewhere sunny, enjoy sun, sand, sea, family, food, drink, relax and come home - seems like that is too difficult for some people. rofl
Also - the assumption that all Russians are the same as the politics of their government is a bit insane.

andyA700

2,706 posts

37 months

Wednesday 13th March
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KAgantua said:
The OG Jester said:
The more I spend on this forum the more I think many folk have crawled up their own arse!

Such outrage for asking about a holiday abroad. Who gives a fk about the politics that 99.9% of us mere mortals have no influence on. Go somewhere sunny, enjoy sun, sand, sea, family, food, drink, relax and come home - seems like that is too difficult for some people. rofl
Also - the assumption that all Russians are the same as the politics of their government is a bit insane.
Exactly. We wanted to visit St Petersburg at some point, but unfortunately that is probably not going to be possible. I would love to visit Turkey, but not to sit on a beach all day. The history and culture are fascinating. I have been to Iran several times and the people are so friendly, the food and history are amazing.

bodhi

10,514 posts

229 months

Wednesday 13th March
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The wife and I have fallen in love with Cyprus for all sorts of reasons, and the one thing that would stop us going to Turkey and spending money there is their continued occupation of Northern Cyprus and the devastation and ghost cities they've left around Famagusta - we just wouldn't be entirely comfortable filling the Turkish Government's coffers whilst we were there.

The Russian thing doesn't bother us - there are a fair few in Cyprus, and any we've come across have been pleasant enough.

It's not a hard and fast rule, as we nearly booked Instanbul in May, but decided to see Ibiza for the first time instead.

I do know loads of people who have had cracking holidays in Turkey, so we would have no qualms from a safety or security POV - just politics.

Seems to be a theme as the wife won't countenance a trip to Texas thanks to their backwards views on abortion. Shame, as I really enjoyed Dallas/Fort Worth......

mooseracer

1,893 posts

170 months

Wednesday 13th March
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The OG Jester said:
The more I spend on this forum the more I think many folk have crawled up their own arse!

Such outrage for asking about a holiday abroad. Who gives a fk about the politics that 99.9% of us mere mortals have no influence on. Go somewhere sunny, enjoy sun, sand, sea, family, food, drink, relax and come home - seems like that is too difficult for some people. rofl
Yeh, so long as we can get our week/fortnight of sunshine.

Kart16

334 posts

8 months

Wednesday 13th March
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bodhi said:
Seems to be a theme as the wife won't countenance a trip to Texas thanks to their backwards views on abortion. Shame, as I really enjoyed Dallas/Fort Worth......
I go to DFW once an year, usually during the winter, and love there. Knowing that they are against killing babies is a plus.

dmsims

6,529 posts

267 months

Wednesday 13th March
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2021 sepnt four months there, first 3 weeks in Istanbul then a road trip round the coast to Antalya

Lovely people, very helpful (withouth an angle) who all hated Erdogan

Particular Highlights were Cesme, Selimye and Cirali


RSTurboPaul

10,379 posts

258 months

Wednesday 13th March
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bodhi said:
The wife and I have fallen in love with Cyprus for all sorts of reasons, and the one thing that would stop us going to Turkey and spending money there is their continued occupation of Northern Cyprus and the devastation and ghost cities they've left around Famagusta - we just wouldn't be entirely comfortable filling the Turkish Government's coffers whilst we were there.

The Russian thing doesn't bother us - there are a fair few in Cyprus, and any we've come across have been pleasant enough.

It's not a hard and fast rule, as we nearly booked Instanbul in May, but decided to see Ibiza for the first time instead.

I do know loads of people who have had cracking holidays in Turkey, so we would have no qualms from a safety or security POV - just politics.

Seems to be a theme as the wife won't countenance a trip to Texas thanks to their backwards views on abortion. Shame, as I really enjoyed Dallas/Fort Worth......
If it is any consolation, my understanding of the Turkish approach to central government taxation is to avoid as much of it as possible, so pay cash and shop local wink lol

bodhi

10,514 posts

229 months

Wednesday 13th March
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RSTurboPaul said:
If it is any consolation, my understanding of the Turkish approach to central government taxation is to avoid as much of it as possible, so pay cash and shop local wink lol
So just like Cyprus then? hehe

Kart16 said:
I go to DFW once an year, usually during the winter, and love there. Knowing that they are against killing babies is a plus.
I thought that and am a big fan of DFW - great locals, lots to do and plenty of golf options - sadly as a man I'm not allowed an opinion on the baby thing.... apparently....

KAgantua

3,873 posts

131 months

Wednesday 13th March
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bodhi said:
RSTurboPaul said:
If it is any consolation, my understanding of the Turkish approach to central government taxation is to avoid as much of it as possible, so pay cash and shop local wink lol
So just like Cyprus then? hehe

Kart16 said:
I go to DFW once an year, usually during the winter, and love there. Knowing that they are against killing babies is a plus.
I thought that and am a big fan of DFW - great locals, lots to do and plenty of golf options - sadly as a man I'm not allowed an opinion on the baby thing.... apparently....
And Greece!

dalzo

1,877 posts

136 months

Thursday 14th March
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Love Turkey, full family go every year and the people there are great, for those worried about Russians, there are hotels for Russians and hotels for brits now.

Cheap, fantastic weather and good food, really can’t fault it.

Our neighbour/friend did end up in the same hotel as erdogan back in 2016 when the military coup happened and was locked in his room with his family while there was a full blown assault on the hotel. Which was quite an awkward conversation when he got home as they had went on my dad’s recommendationhehe

sparkyhx

4,152 posts

204 months

Monday 18th March
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I'd no more go to Turkey with Ergogan in power than Russia with Putin and pretty much any middle east country. Probably not a popular opinion, but beliefs and sense of 'fairness' for want of a better word mean I personally will not entertain these locations as a holiday destinations. Even India under Modi is becoming no go for me.

e600

1,328 posts

152 months

Monday 18th March
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We visited Antalya pre Covid and stayed in a hotel that had hosted Russians the previous weeks. Our room was fitted with all new accessories such as table lamps, waste bins, pillows etc.

Management said it was because the departing Russians had taken them!

Your Dad

1,934 posts

183 months

Monday 18th March
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sparkyhx said:
I'd no more go to Turkey with Ergogan in power than Russia with Putin and pretty much any middle east country. Probably not a popular opinion, but beliefs and sense of 'fairness' for want of a better word mean I personally will not entertain these locations as a holiday destinations. Even India under Modi is becoming no go for me.
Would you also boycott the US if/when Trump gets back in?

StevieBee

12,900 posts

255 months

Monday 18th March
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bodhi said:
The wife and I have fallen in love with Cyprus for all sorts of reasons, and the one thing that would stop us going to Turkey and spending money there is their continued occupation of Northern Cyprus and the devastation and ghost cities they've left around Famagusta - we just wouldn't be entirely comfortable filling the Turkish Government's coffers whilst we were there.
You really need to read up on the history of Cyprus. Turkey are not without fault. But nor are the Greeks or the British. But to adopt a knee-jerk opinion that 'Turkey is bad' view is to miss an exceptionally complex issue that paints a slightly different picture to the popular narrative.


sparkyhx

4,152 posts

204 months

Monday 18th March
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Your Dad said:
sparkyhx said:
I'd no more go to Turkey with Ergogan in power than Russia with Putin and pretty much any middle east country. Probably not a popular opinion, but beliefs and sense of 'fairness' for want of a better word mean I personally will not entertain these locations as a holiday destinations. Even India under Modi is becoming no go for me.
Would you also boycott the US if/when Trump gets back in?
dunno, but he's not systematically repressing his own people.