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stevoknevo

1,678 posts

191 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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griffin dai said:
VEA said:
Never buy from anyone but

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Torchy
Cracking seller bought a few 14500’s a while back for a nemesis mini, sent the wrong ones out replaced them with 2 new ones foc.

Only thing I don’t get is his amp ratings. Has 30q,VTC6 and VTC5A as 30A? I tend to go off Mooch & pegasus vapour academy on YouTube for amp & mah ratings.
Mooch has updated his battery charts and removed the continuous discharge ratings, well worth a read https://www.planetofthevapes.co.uk/forums/ecig-dis...

griffin dai

3,203 posts

150 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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stevoknevo said:
Mooch has updated his battery charts and removed the continuous discharge ratings, well worth a read https://www.planetofthevapes.co.uk/forums/ecig-dis...
So 30q’s now a 15amp battery & HG2 20amp?

stevoknevo

1,678 posts

191 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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anonymous said:
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stevoknevo

1,678 posts

191 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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griffin dai said:
So 30q’s now a 15amp battery & HG2 20amp?
Seems to be the case D. Noticed LG, Samsung and Sony are about the only suppliers who rate their cells correctly too. I think Mooch is trying to distance himself from super sub ohm/high power vapers who might have been saying "ah but Mooch rates it as x amps when pulsed, so it's safe".

I enjoy high power and I love mechs but I don't mix the two, in fact my lowest current build is 0.11 in a Kennedy but I run it on a 45a LiPo DNA200 box, plenty of headroom. Conversely my mech is coiled up at 0.65 currently as the mech is not designed for low builds. I've ran super sub ohm on a mech once, and whilst it was a stellar vape I just didn't trust the battery or equipment not to fail!

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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stevoknevo said:
If you like dripping, you'll love squonking! I use drippers all day and have a squonk setup for in the car/out and about, it gives me the best of both worlds, dripper flavour with near tank like convenience.

Watched a few reviews on the Morphe a couple of weeks and it was fairly positive all round although some said the airflow was a bit noisy. Looks super easy to build on and has a deep well as you say, (I now won't buy an RDA without a deep well) Also like the fact it has an elevated squonk pin so all your liquid isn't drawn back in to the bottle, it's also at a great price point for a genuine RDA.

Edited by stevoknevo on Tuesday 19th December 00:30
I've never dripped eek

My path has been stock coils, RTA (OBS Engine) and now squonking. Order has gone into GB this morning so will prob be 3-4 weeks wait I guess. All in £46 for MOD and RDA, can't really complain at that price

This all came about as my mate has some of my favourite juice in his Morphe

griffin dai

3,203 posts

150 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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stevoknevo said:
Seems to be the case D. Noticed LG, Samsung and Sony are about the only suppliers who rate their cells correctly too. I think Mooch is trying to distance himself from super sub ohm/high power vapers who might have been saying "ah but Mooch rates it as x amps when pulsed, so it's safe".

I enjoy high power and I love mechs but I don't mix the two, in fact my lowest current build is 0.11 in a Kennedy but I run it on a 45a LiPo DNA200 box, plenty of headroom. Conversely my mech is coiled up at 0.65 currently as the mech is not designed for low builds. I've ran super sub ohm on a mech once, and whilst it was a stellar vape I just didn't trust the battery or equipment not to fail!
Yeah probably covering his arse in case someone pushes them to max. Noticed a lot of new vapers are getting into mech squonkers and not really understanding battery safety and ohms law, some haven’t got a clue what builds on there and just start puffing away.... Can see a few accidents happening there.

My K5 developed a leak this week through the bottom, then got a bit loose. Nipped the 510 pin up tight and it’s been fine since. Maybe a quick fix for any leaky Kayfuns!

Just looking for a couple 20700’s for the Pulse now.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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griffin dai said:
Noticed a lot of new vapers are getting into mech squonkers and not really understanding battery safety and ohms law, some haven’t got a clue what builds on there and just start puffing away.... Can see a few accidents happening there.
I've noticed this myself, hence going for a regulated, I'm just waiting the next Daily Mail headline as someones squonk blows up in their face

The Nur

9,168 posts

186 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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I fear this. Try as I might though I just can't get it all in to my head in a way that I understand. It doesn't help that nearly every source I read states different information on what each model of batteries capabilities and limits are.

Currently vaping a .14Ohm at 100w using Sony VCT6. Is that safe? Buggered if I know. I tried to read up on it but I just find it impenetrable so I shall be sticking to regulated mods.

griffin dai

3,203 posts

150 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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The Nur said:
I fear this. Try as I might though I just can't get it all in to my head in a way that I understand. It doesn't help that nearly every source I read states different information on what each model of batteries capabilities and limits are.

Currently vaping a .14Ohm at 100w using Sony VCT6. Is that safe? Buggered if I know. I tried to read up on it but I just find it impenetrable so I shall be sticking to regulated mods.
Download an ohms law calculator on your phone, really handy to have and easy to use.

The VTC6 was rated as a 19A batttery (now down to 15A on Mooch’s charts) so your close to 27amps there with a 0.14ohm coil @ 100w.




On a mech with fully charged battery (4.2v) you’d be drawing 30A which would be too much for the VTC6 and unsafe. The voltage goes down the more you use it through so you end up drawing less amps. Regulated mods though.....probably ok but I’d look at a different battery to stay safe.

Tbh the regulated stuff goes over my head a bit so I just check my build and use what ever battery gives me a little more head room as if I’m still using a mech. I usually stick to Samsung 30Q’s & LG HG2’s in my regulated mods and LG HB2 & HB6 in my mechs. But if I’ve got a very low ohm build on there and wanted to use my regulated mods I’ll stick the HB batteries in there.

The Nur

9,168 posts

186 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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griffin dai said:
Download an ohms law calculator on your phone, really handy to have and easy to use.

The VTC6 was rated as a 19A batttery (now down to 15A on Mooch’s charts) so your close to 27amps there with a 0.14ohm coil @ 100w.




On a mech with fully charged battery (4.2v) you’d be drawing 30A which would be too much for the VTC6 and unsafe. The voltage goes down the more you use it through so you end up drawing less amps. Regulated mods though.....probably ok but I’d look at a different battery to stay safe.

Tbh the regulated stuff goes over my head a bit so I just check my build and use what ever battery gives me a little more head room as if I’m still using a mech. I usually stick to Samsung 30Q’s & LG HG2’s in my regulated mods and LG HB2 & HB6 in my mechs. But if I’ve got a very low ohm build on there and wanted to use my regulated mods I’ll stick the HB batteries in there.
I see, thanks for taking the time to write the post. I really appreciate it thumbup

The figures I quoted were with my cleito 120 tank. I normally use the RTA deck in that at a much lower wattage but I shall run those through an Ohms law calculator when I have the chance.

Most of the time though I use a TFV8 baby beast with a .14 coil at 50 watts which comes out at a smidge over 19 Amps.

Cheers!

DizzyN

408 posts

166 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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Anyone yet tried the new, TPD compliant, smaller all-in-one mods? Don't really want to carry around my Smoant + Cleito when on a night out and all the other mini mods seem to be geared towards sub-ohming so the battery never lasts that long.

Thinking something along the lines of this...

https://www.vapeclub.co.uk/vape-kits-with-integrat...

Thoughts would be great!

The Nur

9,168 posts

186 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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griffin dai said:
Download an ohms law calculator on your phone, really handy to have and easy to use.

The VTC6 was rated as a 19A batttery (now down to 15A on Mooch’s charts) so your close to 27amps there with a 0.14ohm coil @ 100w.

On a mech with fully charged battery (4.2v) you’d be drawing 30A which would be too much for the VTC6 and unsafe. The voltage goes down the more you use it through so you end up drawing less amps. Regulated mods though.....probably ok but I’d look at a different battery to stay safe.

Tbh the regulated stuff goes over my head a bit so I just check my build and use what ever battery gives me a little more head room as if I’m still using a mech. I usually stick to Samsung 30Q’s & LG HG2’s in my regulated mods and LG HB2 & HB6 in my mechs. But if I’ve got a very low ohm build on there and wanted to use my regulated mods I’ll stick the HB batteries in there.
Apologies, I forgot to mention that I'm vaping on a dual 18650 mod. Would I be right in saying that the draw would be halved across the two batteries? So 13.5 amps as opposed to 27?

J8 SVG

1,468 posts

131 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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DizzyN said:
Anyone yet tried the new, TPD compliant, smaller all-in-one mods? Don't really want to carry around my Smoant + Cleito when on a night out and all the other mini mods seem to be geared towards sub-ohming so the battery never lasts that long.

Thinking something along the lines of this...

https://www.vapeclub.co.uk/vape-kits-with-integrat...

Thoughts would be great!
Tried a few that weren't up to much, I use a istick pico & Aspire K3 for a tiny mouth to lung but the mi-one is meant to be the best compact all in one

https://www.vapeclouduk.co.uk/products/smoking-vap...

stevoknevo

1,678 posts

191 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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The Nur said:
griffin dai said:
Download an ohms law calculator on your phone, really handy to have and easy to use.

The VTC6 was rated as a 19A batttery (now down to 15A on Mooch’s charts) so your close to 27amps there with a 0.14ohm coil @ 100w.

On a mech with fully charged battery (4.2v) you’d be drawing 30A which would be too much for the VTC6 and unsafe. The voltage goes down the more you use it through so you end up drawing less amps. Regulated mods though.....probably ok but I’d look at a different battery to stay safe.

Tbh the regulated stuff goes over my head a bit so I just check my build and use what ever battery gives me a little more head room as if I’m still using a mech. I usually stick to Samsung 30Q’s & LG HG2’s in my regulated mods and LG HB2 & HB6 in my mechs. But if I’ve got a very low ohm build on there and wanted to use my regulated mods I’ll stick the HB batteries in there.
Apologies, I forgot to mention that I'm vaping on a dual 18650 mod. Would I be right in saying that the draw would be halved across the two batteries? So 13.5 amps as opposed to 27?
No the amp rating isn't halved as you are using a series mod, not a parallel mod; the amp rating is halved across both batteries in a parallel device so if you are drawing 27 amps it would be 13.5a per battery. In a series mod the voltage is doubled but the amp draw remains as if it was a single battery, hence a series mod can provide more power than a parallel device but the parallel device has half the amp draw and twice the runtime of a series mod. Think of a series configuration mod as having one big battery that provides twice the power but the amp draw is the same across both batteries, so you are drawing 27amps from both batteries.

Hope this makes sense. http://vaping360.com/parallel-vs-series-comparison...

stevoknevo

1,678 posts

191 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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DizzyN said:
Anyone yet tried the new, TPD compliant, smaller all-in-one mods? Don't really want to carry around my Smoant + Cleito when on a night out and all the other mini mods seem to be geared towards sub-ohming so the battery never lasts that long.

Thinking something along the lines of this...

https://www.vapeclub.co.uk/vape-kits-with-integrat...

Thoughts would be great!
The kit you've linked is pretty poor tbh. The Jac Vapour S22 kit is fairly small, very well built (made in the UK) and should last all day with the mouth to lung coils. Not cheap at 35 quid but comes with a six month warranty. The manufacturer got experienced vapers on the potv forum to test them before release and the result was overwhelmingly positive https://www.jacvapour.com/series-s22

Edited by stevoknevo on Wednesday 20th December 00:11

Joscal

2,080 posts

201 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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J8 SVG said:
https://www.gearbest.com/vv-vw-mods/pp_630460.html one of these mods (Needs an 18650 battery or two and an external charger but this means it can't just 'die' becuase the battery is done)

https://www.gosmokefree.co.uk/aspire-k3-tank/ one of these tanks

https://www.ukecigstore.com/aspire-triton-mini-coi... some of these coils in 1.8ohm clapton form.

Best mouth to lung I've had in 4 years of vaping
Thanks for this I've just bought a K3 and think it's brilliant compared to my mini nautilus. No gurgling or spitting (yet!)

griffin dai

3,203 posts

150 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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stevoknevo said:
DizzyN said:
Anyone yet tried the new, TPD compliant, smaller all-in-one mods? Don't really want to carry around my Smoant + Cleito when on a night out and all the other mini mods seem to be geared towards sub-ohming so the battery never lasts that long.

Thinking something along the lines of this...

https://www.vapeclub.co.uk/vape-kits-with-integrat...

Thoughts would be great!
The kit you've linked is pretty poor tbh. The Jac Vapour S22 kit is fairly small, very well built (made in the UK) and should last all day with the mouth to lung coils. Not cheap at 35 quid but comes with a six month warranty. The manufacturer got experienced vapers on the potv forum to test them before release and the result was overwhelmingly positive https://www.jacvapour.com/series-s22

Edited by stevoknevo on Wednesday 20th December 00:11
Yep I’ve had both the original icare and the smaller icare mini with ppc (little power pack) there’s better it there if you spend a little more.

The icare was ok(ish) for what it was but used to auto fire a lot, no fire button on these they make the connection when you take a drag, sometimes eliquid can get onto the small rubber cap and this causes it to auto fire, so it couldn’t be left unattended Incase it started auto firing especially over night. Had to remove the coil every time I wasn’t using it and that became a massive pain in the arse.

Plus you’ve got to use the top cap to unscrew the airflow tube/coil and this melted after a few months use so just rounded the square hole and ended up useless, and this melted because it started auto firing and I was panicking trying to get the coil out!!

For a small pocketable device though I liked it when it worked at first!

The mini never auto fired on me but had loads of spit back, also didn’t vape as well as the bigger one.

I replaced these with a Joytech Atopack Penguin. Much better but still had some problems, coils were very hit & miss, some lasted 5/6 days some an hour! Also leaked a fair bit out the bottom of the coil, and this killed it after a few months. Liquid must have gotten into the mods circuit and I could feel it getting warmer & warmer so binned it. Joytech now have the ‘Dolphin’ which is very similar but not sure if it’s any good.

Worth a read though here if your after a pod system (all in one)

https://www.planetofthevapes.co.uk/forums/ecig-dis...

griffin dai

3,203 posts

150 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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The Nur said:
Apologies, I forgot to mention that I'm vaping on a dual 18650 mod. Would I be right in saying that the draw would be halved across the two batteries? So 13.5 amps as opposed to 27?
Just been reading up on regulated mods and how they calculate everything to stay safe. Goes way over my head this stuff and miles easier to understand on mechs!!

Take a read though here he explains in better than I ever could. But I think you’ll be fine with the VTC6’s. If it was a mech I’d say no at those ohms and get a higher drain battery, but from what I’ve read (and tried to understand!!) on a regulated mod it’s more down to the watts your vaping at.

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/blog-entry/calcu...

The Nur

9,168 posts

186 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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griffin dai said:
Just been reading up on regulated mods and how they calculate everything to stay safe. Goes way over my head this stuff and miles easier to understand on mechs!!

Take a read though here he explains in better than I ever could. But I think you’ll be fine with the VTC6’s. If it was a mech I’d say no at those ohms and get a higher drain battery, but from what I’ve read (and tried to understand!!) on a regulated mod it’s more down to the watts your vaping at.

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/blog-entry/calcu...
Cheers, I've tried too but as you've said it just goes way over!

I've actually just picked up a Wotofo Serpent SMM RTA which is a single coil with a far more sensible .26 Ohm coil in at 45 watts. I've run it through a calculator and numbers are far more comfortable and it's a nice vape so I'm happy.

Thanks again for the input, it is appreciated thumbup

Northern.N

201 posts

141 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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So, I’m getting a tad bored with my usual flavours.
Herbal tides avalanche, Herbal Tides Red Lemonade, I’ve had a sour apple and also banana flavours before also.

Anyone reccomend anything I should try and obtain easily?

Don’t like biscuits too much, or milkshakes that I’ve had up to now. Love banana, apple, mint and some berry flavours.

Very tempted to try s coffee+ hazelnut I’ve seen in my local.
Aspire clieto 0.4ohm, pico dual on 45/50w.

Cheers smile
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