RedBull Stratos...Felix Baumgartner....700mph+ FreeFall
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JudgeMental said:
What a rediculous fuss about nothing! There was hardly even a breeze there. Health and Safety strikes again.
Could I ask what balloon flying experience you have? If it's nothing more than making dog shapes at kid's parties, then may I respectfully suggest that you know stuff all and it might be better if you didn't question the professionals who are trying not to kill someone unnecessarily.Of course, you could be being ironic as obviously jumping out of a balloon and breaking the sound barrier is written up in most H&S manuals...
Seeing how the balloon was twisting just before the decided to abort I'm not surprised they canceled it. That balloon is made of a material just 1/50 mm thick, and was blowing around so much it touched ground a few times. If the balloon fails the capsule has a parachute but that's no use at all below about 3000 feet so if the balloon rips at low altitude he's dead.
JudgeMental said:
It's just that I fail to understand the whole namby pamby approach that's on display there. They're tying a capsule to a weather balloon and letting it go, then someone jumps out; it's not rocket science!
Say he does go up, jumps and is off course and lands in the sea, in a pressure suit there is every risk he could drown. They made the right decision and thats that
slopes said:
JudgeMental said:
It's just that I fail to understand the whole namby pamby approach that's on display there. They're tying a capsule to a weather balloon and letting it go, then someone jumps out; it's not rocket science!
Say he does go up, jumps and is off course and lands in the sea, in a pressure suit there is every risk he could drown. They made the right decision and thats that
slopes said:
JudgeMental said:
It's just that I fail to understand the whole namby pamby approach that's on display there. They're tying a capsule to a weather balloon and letting it go, then someone jumps out; it's not rocket science!
Say he does go up, jumps and is off course and lands in the sea, in a pressure suit there is every risk he could drown. They made the right decision and thats that
JudgeMental said:
It's just that I fail to understand the whole namby pamby approach that's on display there. They're tying a capsule to a weather balloon and letting it go, then someone jumps out; it's not rocket science!
It's not even close to being a weather balloon. The balloon they are using is incredibly fragile and could easily get shredded. If that happens below 3000ft, then Baumgartner is dead. He hasn't got enough height to be able to get out and deploy his parachute.So, I wouldn't call that being "namby pamby." Just sensible.
RizzoTheRat said:
it'd have to be a hell of a strong wind, they're 600 miles form the sea 
Was there not some suggestion moons ago that going up into space & coming back down again a continent away was an easy way to travel around the world? Something to do with high altitude winds iircJudgeMental said:
It's just that I fail to understand the whole namby pamby approach that's on display there. They're tying a capsule to a weather balloon and letting it go, then someone jumps out; it's not rocket science!
They've been planning this for 5 years so I think they can hold off for a few more days......oh no wait JudgeMental says we need to stop being namby pamby and go now 
cptsideways said:
Was there not some suggestion moons ago that going up into space & coming back down again a continent away was an easy way to travel around the world? Something to do with high altitude winds iirc
at that height theyd manage to get pretty far off course with strong winds. it would appear anything over 3mph is probably strong enough. IforB said:
It's not even close to being a weather balloon. The balloon they are using is incredibly fragile and could easily get shredded. If that happens below 3000ft, then Baumgartner is dead. He hasn't got enough height to be able to get out and deploy his parachute.
hmm so he doesn't have secondary parachute which would be suitable for these low altitude jumps in case something goes wrong?
2nd : why they didn't try this with the human-like doll several times before putting real man into danger? They could fill it with the liquid similar to human blood&water and make it of materials similar to human skin flesh and bones and see if there are any effects. I guess its not the problem to autopilot balloon to a desired altitude and kick the doll out with some mechanism, also install gyro on a doll so it doesn't just tumble to the Earth. Automatic parachute deploy at desired altitude shouldn't be a problem too.
AreOut said:
hmm so he doesn't have secondary parachute which would be suitable for these low altitude jumps in case something goes wrong?
2nd : why they didn't try this with the human-like doll several times before putting real man into danger? They could fill it with the liquid similar to human blood&water and make it of materials similar to human skin flesh and bones and see if there are any effects. I guess its not the problem to autopilot balloon to a desired altitude and kick the doll out with some mechanism, also install gyro on a doll so it doesn't just tumble to the Earth. Automatic parachute deploy at desired altitude shouldn't be a problem too.
its not mythbusters.2nd : why they didn't try this with the human-like doll several times before putting real man into danger? They could fill it with the liquid similar to human blood&water and make it of materials similar to human skin flesh and bones and see if there are any effects. I guess its not the problem to autopilot balloon to a desired altitude and kick the doll out with some mechanism, also install gyro on a doll so it doesn't just tumble to the Earth. Automatic parachute deploy at desired altitude shouldn't be a problem too.
AreOut said:
hmm so he doesn't have secondary parachute which would be suitable for these low altitude jumps in case something goes wrong?
2nd : why they didn't try this with the human-like doll several times before putting real man into danger? They could fill it with the liquid similar to human blood&water and make it of materials similar to human skin flesh and bones and see if there are any effects. I guess its not the problem to autopilot balloon to a desired altitude and kick the doll out with some mechanism, also install gyro on a doll so it doesn't just tumble to the Earth. Automatic parachute deploy at desired altitude shouldn't be a problem too.
????????????????2nd : why they didn't try this with the human-like doll several times before putting real man into danger? They could fill it with the liquid similar to human blood&water and make it of materials similar to human skin flesh and bones and see if there are any effects. I guess its not the problem to autopilot balloon to a desired altitude and kick the doll out with some mechanism, also install gyro on a doll so it doesn't just tumble to the Earth. Automatic parachute deploy at desired altitude shouldn't be a problem too.
How on earth would he get out of the sealed and pressurised capsule and deploy a 'chute from below 3000ft?
I'm guessing you don't know much about parachuting?
I love all the experts turning up on this one. They've a team made of rocket scientists, top engineers and god knows what sort of other specialities; all seemingly expert in their respective field but no! They're being overly cautious and a bunch of big girls according to some on here!
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