Conspiracy Theories for Cynics

Conspiracy Theories for Cynics

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Nimby

4,611 posts

151 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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paulguitar said:
Shuvi McTupya said:
I am not sure if you quite 'got' that last post or not, but anyway..

Seeing as this thread is about conspiracy theories, I wonder if a program like Mythbusters was to test a theory and conclusively prove a huge conspiracy must actually be true. Would they be really be allowed to broadcast it? I would think it would get canned.

I am not suggesting this has ever happened by the way!
I'm sure they would be delighted if that ever happened because it would be superb TV! I'm sure in the same way, James Randi would be over the moon if anyone ever won the million-dollar prize for proving something paranormal.

It won't happen, of course.
No it won't because the Randi Challenge was withdrawn in 2015.

paulguitar

23,617 posts

114 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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Nimby said:
No it won't because the Randi Challenge was withdrawn in 2015.
Indeed, James Randi retired.

It would be good if someone else could take this over so we can continue to witness nobody taking it on.




Bright Halo

2,977 posts

236 months

Friday 26th June 2020
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Here’s one
The Americans released the UFO footage at the time of the global pandemic so the news would be lost in amongst all the COVID 19 stuff.
It is quite a thing as it is the first time they have actually said “We do not know what it is and can’t explain it”

Zirconia

36,010 posts

285 months

Friday 26th June 2020
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Bright Halo said:
Here’s one
The Americans released the UFO footage at the time of the global pandemic so the news would be lost in amongst all the COVID 19 stuff.
It is quite a thing as it is the first time they have actually said “We do not know what it is and can’t explain it”
That footage was going the rounds for a while I think? It has already been shown to not be aliens, in all likelihood, before the state released it.

Bright Halo

2,977 posts

236 months

Friday 26th June 2020
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Yes released previously but officially released in April and classed as unidentified.

The Pentagon on Monday released three declassified videos that show US navy pilots encountering what appear to be unidentified flying objects.

The grainy videos, which the Pentagon says depict “unexplained aerial phenomena”, were previously leaked, with some believing they show alien UFOs.

The Pentagon said it released the footage to “to clear up any misconceptions by the public on whether or not the footage that has been circulating was real or whether or not there is more to the videos”, a statement on the Department of Defense website said.

“After a thorough review, the department has determined that the authorized release of these unclassified videos does not reveal any sensitive capabilities or systems, and does not impinge on any subsequent investigations of military air space incursions by unidentified aerial phenomena,” the statement said.
The videos had been “circulating in the public domain after unauthorized releases in 2007 and 2017”, the statement said, adding that “the aerial phenomena observed in the videos remain characterized as ‘unidentified’”.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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The Spruce Goose said:
So Dominic Cummings spent some years in Russia. Boris Johnson has Russain links.

It is a big leap of faith to assume Russia is the actual puppet master?
So seems i was on the right track, why do the government seem to pander to Russia?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53489613

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

248 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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I am still not really sure what it is that they are supposed to have done, or what effect if any it had?

From what i can gather, they didnt hack the election or anything, they just posted fake news on social media, which is already full of fake news and crazy people.

I suspect that to most 'leavers' like myself, this all just feels like establishment Europhiles looking for more excuses why we should reconsider the referendum results after four years of obstruction and obfuscation.




Edited by Shuvi McTupya on Wednesday 22 July 10:58

alock

4,231 posts

212 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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Zirconia said:
Bright Halo said:
Here’s one
The Americans released the UFO footage at the time of the global pandemic so the news would be lost in amongst all the COVID 19 stuff.
It is quite a thing as it is the first time they have actually said “We do not know what it is and can’t explain it”
That footage was going the rounds for a while I think? It has already been shown to not be aliens, in all likelihood, before the state released it.
The 3 released videos busted here if anyone is interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfhAC2YiYHs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3viYcYPRdu4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWWGmiZs4JA

Pommy

14,268 posts

217 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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A visual to assist those about to go through a divorce and what to expect...


bloomen

6,935 posts

160 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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Shuvi McTupya said:
I am still not really sure what it is that they are supposed to have done, or what effect if any it had?

From what i can gather, they didnt hack the election or anything, they just posted fake news on social media, which is already full of fake news and crazy people.

I suspect that to most 'leavers' like myself, this all just feels like establishment Europhiles looking for more excuses why we should reconsider the referendum results after four years of obstruction and obfuscation.
There are always huge chunks of electorates who aren't going to waver and can't be influenced but elections are decided by floating voters and such people are looking for a reason to decide.

A few distorted headlines or manufactured outrages may well be enough to sway them the way you want.

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

248 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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bloomen said:
There are always huge chunks of electorates who aren't going to waver and can't be influenced but elections are decided by floating voters and such people are looking for a reason to decide.

A few distorted headlines or manufactured outrages may well be enough to sway them the way you want.
You may be right, at this point though it is just noise.

If the vote had gone the other way, we would have stayed in and it would have been forgotten about. I am sure this subject would never have been raised four years later.

mko9

2,391 posts

213 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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bloomen said:
Shuvi McTupya said:
I am still not really sure what it is that they are supposed to have done, or what effect if any it had?

From what i can gather, they didnt hack the election or anything, they just posted fake news on social media, which is already full of fake news and crazy people.

I suspect that to most 'leavers' like myself, this all just feels like establishment Europhiles looking for more excuses why we should reconsider the referendum results after four years of obstruction and obfuscation.
There are always huge chunks of electorates who aren't going to waver and can't be influenced but elections are decided by floating voters and such people are looking for a reason to decide.

A few distorted headlines or manufactured outrages may well be enough to sway them the way you want.
Have the investigations showed that any of the floating voters were influenced by Russian misinformation? Pretty much the same thing for the 2016 US elections.

mko9

2,391 posts

213 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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alock said:
Zirconia said:
Bright Halo said:
Here’s one
The Americans released the UFO footage at the time of the global pandemic so the news would be lost in amongst all the COVID 19 stuff.
It is quite a thing as it is the first time they have actually said “We do not know what it is and can’t explain it”
That footage was going the rounds for a while I think? It has already been shown to not be aliens, in all likelihood, before the state released it.
The 3 released videos busted here if anyone is interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfhAC2YiYHs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3viYcYPRdu4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWWGmiZs4JA
I can't explain the videos one way or the other, but that guy is an idiot.

Zirconia

36,010 posts

285 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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mko9 said:
alock said:
Zirconia said:
Bright Halo said:
Here’s one
The Americans released the UFO footage at the time of the global pandemic so the news would be lost in amongst all the COVID 19 stuff.
It is quite a thing as it is the first time they have actually said “We do not know what it is and can’t explain it”
That footage was going the rounds for a while I think? It has already been shown to not be aliens, in all likelihood, before the state released it.
The 3 released videos busted here if anyone is interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfhAC2YiYHs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3viYcYPRdu4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWWGmiZs4JA
I can't explain the videos one way or the other, but that guy is an idiot.
Missed them but they have been discussed elsewhere when they first surfaced. At worst, misunderstood tech and human failure. Not ET.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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Icke has an animation “How they pulled off the pandemic”

https://davidicke.com/2020/07/24/how-they-pulled-o...

You won’t be surprised that he doesn’t believe the official narrative

Shinysideup

814 posts

183 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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JPJPJP said:
Icke has an animation “How they pulled off the pandemic”

https://davidicke.com/2020/07/24/how-they-pulled-o...

You won’t be surprised that he doesn’t believe the official narrative
Made the mistake of browsing that forum just now.. wobble

Off the charts

CanAm

9,262 posts

273 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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JPJPJP said:
Icke has an animation “How they pulled off the pandemic”

https://davidicke.com/2020/07/24/how-they-pulled-o...

You won’t be surprised that he doesn’t believe the official narrative
Can you summarise it for us? I dont fancy sitting through all 16 minutes. smile



Randy Winkman

16,214 posts

190 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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Shinysideup said:
JPJPJP said:
Icke has an animation “How they pulled off the pandemic”

https://davidicke.com/2020/07/24/how-they-pulled-o...

You won’t be surprised that he doesn’t believe the official narrative
Made the mistake of browsing that forum just now.. wobble

Off the charts
Disappointed to see the limited range of stuff in the shop. (Books, DVDs and pills.) I was hoping for a David Icke golf umbrella or sun-hat.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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CanAm said:
Can you summarise it for us? I dont fancy sitting through all 16 minutes. smile
16 minutes into 6 lines

- covid 19, if it exists, is man made as part of the actions of an 'elite cult' that runs the world to push its agenda
- the covid 19 statistics are not accurate & it is taking the blame for many deaths that it didn't cause
- the test is not specific for covid 19 virus
- the lockdown / masks / other measures are tiptoe steps towards tyranny - China / Hunger Games is how the world ends up: 1% controlling the rest
- the vaccine already exists, the build up to releasing it is theatre and vaccination will be compulsory
- buy my new book

is about the long & short of it

I'm impressed by how many books Icke produces and sells - he is on a right earner from his efforts and for that I say fair play to him

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

248 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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JPJPJP said:
16 minutes into 6 lines

- the covid 19 statistics are not accurate & it is taking the blame for many deaths that it didn't cause
Well, if you chuck enough st at the fan, some of it will stick.

This one has been admitted now hasn't it?