Conspiracy Theories for Cynics
Discussion
scherzkeks said:
Shuvi McTupya said:
Zod said:
Don't post idiotic crap and I'll engage with you differently.
I gave you a chance to either post some credible evidence or climb down as gracefully as you wanted, but you posted drivel.
/whatever.I gave you a chance to either post some credible evidence or climb down as gracefully as you wanted, but you posted drivel.
Have a peachy day.
I assume you meant that, but the first entry on google for the term seems to be more your kind of thing:
https://www.facebook.com/RealRussiaTruth/
Reality Winner. Cannot decide If I should post this here or in the urban myths thread, but my normative determinism detector is off the scale.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/05/re...
Colonial said:
A Florida woman has recently bern charged with sending death threats to one of the parents of a Sandy Hook shooting victim.
All ok because apparently they were all actors and it never happened.
That is where unquestioning belief in nutcase conspiracy theories ends up.
Multiple people in N,P&E believe this story too. There are some seriously unwell people on these forums.All ok because apparently they were all actors and it never happened.
That is where unquestioning belief in nutcase conspiracy theories ends up.
AshBurrows said:
Colonial said:
A Florida woman has recently bern charged with sending death threats to one of the parents of a Sandy Hook shooting victim.
All ok because apparently they were all actors and it never happened.
That is where unquestioning belief in nutcase conspiracy theories ends up.
Multiple people in N,P&E believe this story too. There are some seriously unwell people on these forums.All ok because apparently they were all actors and it never happened.
That is where unquestioning belief in nutcase conspiracy theories ends up.
Zod said:
AshBurrows said:
Colonial said:
A Florida woman has recently bern charged with sending death threats to one of the parents of a Sandy Hook shooting victim.
All ok because apparently they were all actors and it never happened.
That is where unquestioning belief in nutcase conspiracy theories ends up.
Multiple people in N,P&E believe this story too. There are some seriously unwell people on these forums.All ok because apparently they were all actors and it never happened.
That is where unquestioning belief in nutcase conspiracy theories ends up.
Given the calving of Larsen C in the Antarctic
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/gian...
Chemtrail / Geoengineering commentator Dane Wigginton has had a busy day
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/gian...
Chemtrail / Geoengineering commentator Dane Wigginton has had a busy day
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 13th July 06:05
Far too much going on on that page for me too find what it is i am supposed to be reading!
I assume he is trying to suggest that the calving was actually carried out by a mysterious government department, but to what end?
I am not into 'the climate' so I dont know who ,if anyone, would benefit from 'chopping up' glaciers or ice masses.
I assume he is trying to suggest that the calving was actually carried out by a mysterious government department, but to what end?
I am not into 'the climate' so I dont know who ,if anyone, would benefit from 'chopping up' glaciers or ice masses.
To address the "it would leak" comments... The manhattan project had 100,000s of people involved and only a handful of people knew about the outcome of the project before the bombs dropped.
Equally 1000s of people, both civilian contractors and military folk work at Groom lake and have been developing black projects in relative secrecy since the U2 in 1955.
Not that it lends any credence to 9/11 truthers but there are 1000 good reasons to disbelieve them beyond "you couldn't plan something like that in secret without leaks."
Equally 1000s of people, both civilian contractors and military folk work at Groom lake and have been developing black projects in relative secrecy since the U2 in 1955.
Not that it lends any credence to 9/11 truthers but there are 1000 good reasons to disbelieve them beyond "you couldn't plan something like that in secret without leaks."
Hainey said:
I'm just waiting on someone asking how the Grenfell tower in London never collapsed like the WTC buildings considering the heat was high enough to literally incinerate those inside it.
Guarantee you the will be mentioned, and I won’t even have to look.Saying that, one source of fun, that ship of loons, Icke forums, now needs a login to see the dribbling loonacy.
Hainey said:
I'm just waiting on someone asking how the Grenfell tower in London never collapsed like the WTC buildings considering the heat was high enough to literally incinerate those inside it.
I've already seen that one on Facebook, though I was unsure whether the poster was being ironic or was genuinely hard of thinking. No doubt there ate some people out there genuinely wondering about it, oblivious to the difference between concrete and steel..... Anyway, a more "plausible" one I've heard recently:
We all know how absolutely, utterly desperate "the establishment" and particularly the government was for Britain to vote Remain last year. The whopping scare stories, the printed leaflet, etc etc. - even recruiting Obama to threaten us with no trade deals.
As a result, I've seen a few people suggesting that the murder of Jo Cox was a false flag attack designed to shift public sympathy back to remain.
They do have a few points:
- Before the attack, polls were suggesting 60% in favour of Brexit, afterwards they swung back to marginally favour remain
- There is a previous example of this sort of attack, which happened prior to an EU referendum some years ago in another country (I forget which, offhand but I think it did influence the outcome)
- The killer was immediately described as a vulnerable mentally ill extremist loner - the perfect patsy for someone to influence and to put up to it
- Depending on which news report you read/hear, there still seems to be some confusion over what exactly he shouted (Britain First/Put Britain First/This is for Britain First). Was it a rehearsed blame-casting line that was fluffed in the heat of the moment?
- Britain First supporters often engage in punch ups but operate in groups not alone, and have never stooped to life threatening attacks
- The killer has never been seen or heard of again. Everything about his trail and jailing has been in utmost secrecy. Why? Even the so-called secret trial of the scum who killed Lee Rigby was reported about, and they have been heard of from inside prison in subsequent news reports. Their trial was secret to stop them using airtime to radicalise people. Not sure the same danger exists for this bloke - but was someone desperate to stop anything being said in public that might have pointed to him being put up to it?
- Overall, the consensus among people I've seen discussing the the theory seems to be that he was put up to roughing her up a bit, but went way too far and had to be kept quiet
And so over to the PH collective to dismantle this latest theory...
ChemicalChaos said:
I've already seen that one on Facebook, though I was unsure whether the poster was being ironic or was genuinely hard of thinking. No doubt there ate some people out there genuinely wondering about it, oblivious to the difference between concrete and steel.....
Anyway, a more "plausible" one I've heard recently:
We all know how absolutely, utterly desperate "the establishment" and particularly the government was for Britain to vote Remain last year. The whopping scare stories, the printed leaflet, etc etc. - even recruiting Obama to threaten us with no trade deals.
As a result, I've seen a few people suggesting that the murder of Jo Cox was a false flag attack designed to shift public sympathy back to remain.
They do have a few points:
- Before the attack, polls were suggesting 60% in favour of Brexit, afterwards they swung back to marginally favour remain
- There is a previous example of this sort of attack, which happened prior to an EU referendum some years ago in another country (I forget which, offhand but I think it did influence the outcome)
- The killer was immediately described as a vulnerable mentally ill extremist loner - the perfect patsy for someone to influence and to put up to it
- Depending on which news report you read/hear, there still seems to be some confusion over what exactly he shouted (Britain First/Put Britain First/This is for Britain First). Was it a rehearsed blame-casting line that was fluffed in the heat of the moment?
- Britain First supporters often engage in punch ups but operate in groups not alone, and have never stooped to life threatening attacks
- The killer has never been seen or heard of again. Everything about his trail and jailing has been in utmost secrecy. Why? Even the so-called secret trial of the scum who killed Lee Rigby was reported about, and they have been heard of from inside prison in subsequent news reports. Their trial was secret to stop them using airtime to radicalise people. Not sure the same danger exists for this bloke - but was someone desperate to stop anything being said in public that might have pointed to him being put up to it?
- Overall, the consensus among people I've seen discussing the the theory seems to be that he was put up to roughing her up a bit, but went way too far and had to be kept quiet
And so over to the PH collective to dismantle this latest theory...
If we're going to entertain that theory I think you need to throw into the mix just how quickly the killer's identity was revealed followed by the revelation he'd subscribed to some right wing South African newsletter 15 years priorAnyway, a more "plausible" one I've heard recently:
We all know how absolutely, utterly desperate "the establishment" and particularly the government was for Britain to vote Remain last year. The whopping scare stories, the printed leaflet, etc etc. - even recruiting Obama to threaten us with no trade deals.
As a result, I've seen a few people suggesting that the murder of Jo Cox was a false flag attack designed to shift public sympathy back to remain.
They do have a few points:
- Before the attack, polls were suggesting 60% in favour of Brexit, afterwards they swung back to marginally favour remain
- There is a previous example of this sort of attack, which happened prior to an EU referendum some years ago in another country (I forget which, offhand but I think it did influence the outcome)
- The killer was immediately described as a vulnerable mentally ill extremist loner - the perfect patsy for someone to influence and to put up to it
- Depending on which news report you read/hear, there still seems to be some confusion over what exactly he shouted (Britain First/Put Britain First/This is for Britain First). Was it a rehearsed blame-casting line that was fluffed in the heat of the moment?
- Britain First supporters often engage in punch ups but operate in groups not alone, and have never stooped to life threatening attacks
- The killer has never been seen or heard of again. Everything about his trail and jailing has been in utmost secrecy. Why? Even the so-called secret trial of the scum who killed Lee Rigby was reported about, and they have been heard of from inside prison in subsequent news reports. Their trial was secret to stop them using airtime to radicalise people. Not sure the same danger exists for this bloke - but was someone desperate to stop anything being said in public that might have pointed to him being put up to it?
- Overall, the consensus among people I've seen discussing the the theory seems to be that he was put up to roughing her up a bit, but went way too far and had to be kept quiet
And so over to the PH collective to dismantle this latest theory...
Art0ir said:
To address the "it would leak" comments... The manhattan project had 100,000s of people involved and only a handful of people knew about the outcome of the project before the bombs dropped.
Equally 1000s of people, both civilian contractors and military folk work at Groom lake and have been developing black projects in relative secrecy since the U2 in 1955.
Not that it lends any credence to 9/11 truthers but there are 1000 good reasons to disbelieve them beyond "you couldn't plan something like that in secret without leaks."
The problem with that is very, very few people would be morally OK with killing thousands of innocent Americans for some shady, undefined government purpose. Someone would have thought "this isn't right" and leaked. It's a very different situation to developing secret aircraft and during wartime where "leaking" was called "treason" and carried a death penalty. Equally 1000s of people, both civilian contractors and military folk work at Groom lake and have been developing black projects in relative secrecy since the U2 in 1955.
Not that it lends any credence to 9/11 truthers but there are 1000 good reasons to disbelieve them beyond "you couldn't plan something like that in secret without leaks."
ChemicalChaos said:
- The killer has never been seen or heard of again. Everything about his trail and jailing has been in utmost secrecy. Why? Even the so-called secret trial of the scum who killed Lee Rigby was reported about, and they have been heard of from inside prison in subsequent news reports. Their trial was secret to stop them using airtime to radicalise people. Not sure the same danger exists for this bloke - but was someone desperate to stop anything being said in public that might have pointed to him being put up to it?
- Overall, the consensus among people I've seen discussing the the theory seems to be that he was put up to roughing her up a bit, but went way too far and had to be kept quiet
And so over to the PH collective to dismantle this latest theory...
Not covered? Plenty of coverage of the trial and photos of him on the net.- Overall, the consensus among people I've seen discussing the the theory seems to be that he was put up to roughing her up a bit, but went way too far and had to be kept quiet
And so over to the PH collective to dismantle this latest theory...
https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=safari&...
ChemicalChaos said:
I've already seen that one on Facebook, though I was unsure whether the poster was being ironic or was genuinely hard of thinking. No doubt there ate some people out there genuinely wondering about it, oblivious to the difference between concrete and steel.....
Anyway, a more "plausible" one I've heard recently:
We all know how absolutely, utterly desperate "the establishment" and particularly the government was for Britain to vote Remain last year. The whopping scare stories, the printed leaflet, etc etc. - even recruiting Obama to threaten us with no trade deals.
As a result, I've seen a few people suggesting that the murder of Jo Cox was a false flag attack designed to shift public sympathy back to remain.
They do have a few points:
- Before the attack, polls were suggesting 60% in favour of Brexit, afterwards they swung back to marginally favour remain
- There is a previous example of this sort of attack, which happened prior to an EU referendum some years ago in another country (I forget which, offhand but I think it did influence the outcome)
- The killer was immediately described as a vulnerable mentally ill extremist loner - the perfect patsy for someone to influence and to put up to it
- Depending on which news report you read/hear, there still seems to be some confusion over what exactly he shouted (Britain First/Put Britain First/This is for Britain First). Was it a rehearsed blame-casting line that was fluffed in the heat of the moment?
- Britain First supporters often engage in punch ups but operate in groups not alone, and have never stooped to life threatening attacks
- The killer has never been seen or heard of again. Everything about his trail and jailing has been in utmost secrecy. Why? Even the so-called secret trial of the scum who killed Lee Rigby was reported about, and they have been heard of from inside prison in subsequent news reports. Their trial was secret to stop them using airtime to radicalise people. Not sure the same danger exists for this bloke - but was someone desperate to stop anything being said in public that might have pointed to him being put up to it?
- Overall, the consensus among people I've seen discussing the the theory seems to be that he was put up to roughing her up a bit, but went way too far and had to be kept quiet
And so over to the PH collective to dismantle this latest theory...
It's only plausible if you are fully prepared to suspend any form of rational thought and believe half truths and outright lies on youtube and facebook. Anyway, a more "plausible" one I've heard recently:
We all know how absolutely, utterly desperate "the establishment" and particularly the government was for Britain to vote Remain last year. The whopping scare stories, the printed leaflet, etc etc. - even recruiting Obama to threaten us with no trade deals.
As a result, I've seen a few people suggesting that the murder of Jo Cox was a false flag attack designed to shift public sympathy back to remain.
They do have a few points:
- Before the attack, polls were suggesting 60% in favour of Brexit, afterwards they swung back to marginally favour remain
- There is a previous example of this sort of attack, which happened prior to an EU referendum some years ago in another country (I forget which, offhand but I think it did influence the outcome)
- The killer was immediately described as a vulnerable mentally ill extremist loner - the perfect patsy for someone to influence and to put up to it
- Depending on which news report you read/hear, there still seems to be some confusion over what exactly he shouted (Britain First/Put Britain First/This is for Britain First). Was it a rehearsed blame-casting line that was fluffed in the heat of the moment?
- Britain First supporters often engage in punch ups but operate in groups not alone, and have never stooped to life threatening attacks
- The killer has never been seen or heard of again. Everything about his trail and jailing has been in utmost secrecy. Why? Even the so-called secret trial of the scum who killed Lee Rigby was reported about, and they have been heard of from inside prison in subsequent news reports. Their trial was secret to stop them using airtime to radicalise people. Not sure the same danger exists for this bloke - but was someone desperate to stop anything being said in public that might have pointed to him being put up to it?
- Overall, the consensus among people I've seen discussing the the theory seems to be that he was put up to roughing her up a bit, but went way too far and had to be kept quiet
And so over to the PH collective to dismantle this latest theory...
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