Conspiracy Theories for Cynics

Conspiracy Theories for Cynics

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gazza285

9,824 posts

209 months

Saturday 26th January 2019
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ralphrj said:
The author of those posts is Michael Shrimpton...
Wasn’t he the drummer for Spinal Tap? I thought he was dead...

Stan the Bat

8,935 posts

213 months

Saturday 26th January 2019
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gazza285 said:
ralphrj said:
The author of those posts is Michael Shrimpton...
Wasn’t he the drummer for Spinal Tap? I thought he was dead...
Gardening accident I think.

ralphrj

3,533 posts

192 months

Saturday 26th January 2019
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Stan the Bat said:
gazza285 said:
ralphrj said:
The author of those posts is Michael Shrimpton...
Wasn’t he the drummer for Spinal Tap? I thought he was dead...
Gardening accident I think.
That's what they want you to think...

dartissimus

938 posts

175 months

Saturday 26th January 2019
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The world is controlled by repitilian shape-shifters

David Icke - He da man

Edited by dartissimus on Wednesday 20th February 14:11

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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Australians won’t be able to hear that from man himself - he is banned from Australia

https://www.dosbods.co.uk/topic/8544-icke-banned-f...

https://www.davidicke.com/article/522993/statement...


slopes

38,831 posts

188 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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grumbledoak said:
I'm going to agree with The Hypno-Toad, at least for a few.


David Kelly. Silenced. Not suicide.

Dunblane. Cover up. Five years olds can count to two (armed paedos).

Lockerbie. Stitch up. Not Gaddafi, not al-Megrahi. (Iran, as originally thought).


I think it’s widely accepted that Al Megrahi was a scape goat, or at least according to several scots i spoke to

I also seem to recall suggestions that a notebook with alleged evidence of the bomb being in the luggage of a US special forces soldier went missing.

Although i seem to recall reading somewhere he got a posthumous award for dying whilst on active duty.


Allegedly


Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

248 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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slopes said:
I think it’s widely accepted that Al Megrahi was a scape goat, or at least according to several scots i spoke to

I also seem to recall suggestions that a notebook with alleged evidence of the bomb being in the luggage of a US special forces soldier went missing.

Although i seem to recall reading somewhere he got a posthumous award for dying whilst on active duty.


Allegedly
I heard that American agents arrived on scene alarmingly fast, like before any local law enforcement types. But that could just be rumours.

NoVetec

9,967 posts

174 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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Russian Troll Bot said:
I find the flat earth conspiracies oddly interesting, a fascinating insight into the human mind. Unlike most other conspiracy theories, you can easily disprove it with your own eyes, but those who believe it have an answer for everything. Photos of the earth? All fake. Astronauts? Simply hanging from wires. Seeing the curvature from a high altitude? That's because aircraft use curved glass. Why are there no pictures of the ice wall? Because NASA has armed patrols all the way around it. Gravity? All a lie. Eclipses? The Moon is just a big rear projected hologram.

We have known the Earth was round since at least the time of the Ancient Greeks, the idea that Columbus set off to prove you wouldn't fall off the edge is a complete myth. But despite Poe's Law being in full effect, there are those who genuinely believe it, and not just from a religious perspective. If nothing else, at least there is a vaguely plausible reason why the moon landings were staged or 9/11 being an inside job. But if the Earth really is flat, what would be gained by hiding it from us? Surely religions would be desperate to get the truth out, as it would be all but concrete proof of a creator.

But when faced with any conspiracy theory, ask yourself this. Whilst it's certainly true government have done and still do plenty of shady stuff, they are also completely incapable of completing major projects of any type on time, or not spend their time with pointless infighting and points scoring. Would you really trust them to be competent enough to keep a massive conspiracy secret?
yes

Plus all the people involved that would have to do a 'good job' and stay silent about it.

Most conspiracy theorists today had they been born decades before would probably have been religious. It's just another outlet and method of deflecting all the big, scary stuff that can happen in life that one can't control.

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

248 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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NoVetec said:
yes

Plus all the people involved that would have to do a 'good job' and stay silent about it.

Most conspiracy theorists today had they been born decades before would probably have been religious. It's just another outlet and method of deflecting all the big, scary stuff that can happen in life that one can't control.
Rubbish. There is no evidence that god exists but there is plenty of evidence that conspiracies are an actual thing.

NoVetec

9,967 posts

174 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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Shuvi McTupya said:
NoVetec said:
yes

Plus all the people involved that would have to do a 'good job' and stay silent about it.

Most conspiracy theorists today had they been born decades before would probably have been religious. It's just another outlet and method of deflecting all the big, scary stuff that can happen in life that one can't control.
Rubbish. There is no evidence that god exists but there is plenty of evidence that conspiracies are an actual thing.
Plenty of evidence for conspiracies themselves or conspiracy theories? If the former, sure, if the latter, which ones and what evidence?

Maybe I should have said habitual conspiracy theorists.

slopes

38,831 posts

188 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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Shuvi McTupya said:
slopes said:
I think it’s widely accepted that Al Megrahi was a scape goat, or at least according to several scots i spoke to

I also seem to recall suggestions that a notebook with alleged evidence of the bomb being in the luggage of a US special forces soldier went missing.

Although i seem to recall reading somewhere he got a posthumous award for dying whilst on active duty.


Allegedly
I heard that American agents arrived on scene alarmingly fast, like before any local law enforcement types. But that could just be rumours.
I went back and checked my facts, it seems Capt Joseph P Curry of the US Special Forces was posthumously awarded his decoration after being killed in the line of duty. I wonder why they don't elaborate on that?

Tam Dalyell the MP raised some entertaining questions at the time concerning a WPC asking for her notebook back only to be told it was destroyed and allegedly this had the notes that said the bomb was in Capt Curry's luggage.

Now i'm not even going to speculate on this but i will say that i don't think the truth over this will ever come out in my lifetime.

Vaud

50,603 posts

156 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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He was on the flight...

Joseph P. Curry, 31, of the 10th Special Forces group, was returning from a conference in Europe aboard the flight, said base information officer John Rasmussen. A native of York, Maine, Curry had been stationed at the fort since October 1986 He was married and had no children. Curry, a Green Beret, was a member of an "A-Team” - a 12-man detachment specializing in unconventional warfare and special operations. Though the explosion was possibly terrorist-related and unconfirmed reports have placed U.S. State Department personnel on the flight, Rasmussen said Curry had no official connection. "There’s no chance (that Curry was placed on the plane as a security measure). That’s not what these guys do,” Rasmussen said. "It’s a common occurrence to have these guys in Europe, and his taking that flight was purely coincidental. There was no hidden agenda.”

https://newspaperarchive.com/lowell-sun-dec-23-198...

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

248 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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NoVetec said:
Plenty of evidence for conspiracies themselves or conspiracy theories? If the former, sure, if the latter, which ones and what evidence?

Maybe I should have said habitual conspiracy theorists.
Yes, there is evidence of conspiracies as they happen all the time at every level of society.

The word 'conspiracy' is now a bit misunderstood (in my opinion of course)

If you and arrange to put our funds together to buy a car before anyone else does, that is a conspiracy. (I think!!)

The Hypno-Toad

12,287 posts

206 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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Shuvi McTupya said:
I heard that American agents arrived on scene alarmingly fast, like before any local law enforcement types. But that could just be rumours.
Private Eye ran stories of black Range Rovers being there almost before the emergency services and taking away certain suitcases rather sharpish if I remember correctly.

There were also journalists who got into bother by taking away some of the wreckage as souvenirs.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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The Hypno-Toad said:
Private Eye ran stories of black Range Rovers being there almost before the emergency services and taking away certain suitcases rather sharpish if I remember correctly.

There were also journalists who got into bother by taking away some of the wreckage as souvenirs.
How on earth would they know the site of the crash so quickly? Unless they have as many bases as there are police stations they'd have to set off before the emergency services. And how would they find the suitcases?

The Hypno-Toad

12,287 posts

206 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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Dr Jekyll said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
Private Eye ran stories of black Range Rovers being there almost before the emergency services and taking away certain suitcases rather sharpish if I remember correctly.

There were also journalists who got into bother by taking away some of the wreckage as souvenirs.
How on earth would they know the site of the crash so quickly? Unless they have as many bases as there are police stations they'd have to set off before the emergency services. And how would they find the suitcases?
I am mentioning what I remember from back in the day. And let's face it, in a way the point of a conspiracy theory is that it is a theory. Most of them can never be proved but in this day & age that won't some people never stop trying. Just like that 4Q nonsense that one poster on the "yellow jackets" thread was constantly banging on about.

I certainly don't believe the Range Rover stuff, it's just interesting to me that some people do. Just as some people will never believe we went to the moon or that Trump is going to be the saviour of the world who is going to stop "them" forming a New World Order.

I think that in a couple of decades time they will be describing the years we are currently living in as "The Great Nonsense,"



Matt Cup

3,163 posts

105 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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Without going through the entire thread.

Has the Dave Dave /Michael Jackson conspiracy been covered?

https://youtu.be/ev7cgtrPPY8


Morningside

24,110 posts

230 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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Heard a great one tonight. Chatting to a friend he told me of this one...A friend of his said that all birds are extinct and the birds flying around are actually drones from the US government used to spy on the population.

jester

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

248 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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Morningside said:
Heard a great one tonight. Chatting to a friend he told me of this one...A friend of his said that all birds are extinct and the birds flying around are actually drones from the US government used to spy on the population.

jester
That is the second time I have now heard about this one, I can not believe it could possibly be gaining any traction!! It's more stupid than the flat earth guff!

Laurel Green

30,781 posts

233 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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It's amazing just how far these new drones have come - they even manage to change the colour of the droppings to coincide with the fruit throughout the year - incredible!