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Blown2CV

28,879 posts

204 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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TroubledSoul said:
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
How far are you from Peterlee?

scratchchin
Actually spat my coffee out at this you tosser laugh
fking timewaster. You can't be the new Dad to my 6 kids now.

TroubledSoul

4,602 posts

195 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Blown2CV said:
fking timewaster. You can't be the new Dad to my 6 kids now.
An absolute tragedy!

Echo66

384 posts

190 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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I've said it before on here & I'll say it again, having some self-confidence is always going to help. You don't need to be an arrogant chopper with the big I am but a guy that knows his was around life is going to be a couple of steps up the ladder when it comes to getting a date.

That doesn't come across too easily on a profile, its a fine line to try & find but its quite easy to crash & burn with a lame profile or first message. One of the most useful things I learnt was from girls i met that i didn't end up dating but stayed friends with.- they were great for bouncing opinions & horror stories off about dating. Loads of pointers about the things they 'need' to see in a profile before they'll bother. 7-8 years ago Match & PoF ladies were getting up to 150 messages a week. Nearly all wouldn't be read/looked at if the initial profile pic was crap, the opening line/subject line was crap. With that many messages to wade through (& if some woman is looking for something serious she may well be on 2 -3 different sites/apps) then there isn't the time so they need to have something pop out at them (nudge nudge...........wink wink)

In the 3-4 years i was trawling the sites, i sent less than 20 messages instigating contact, It was always the other way around. I had decent pics of a smart looking bloke, in shape & looking like I enjoyed life. I'm not a looker, i'm about a 5-6 & am just under 6ft but I am confident & successful in a number of things I've tried - thats on top of decades of on & off struggle with mental health issues (PTSD) as well as a couple of serious injuries through 'work'. I just bounce back a bit thats all.
I just found it quite easy to put together a profile write up that was witty & may have created some interest for a lass reading it.
I had a PH mate who started dating off the back of the fun i was having, he complained he wasn't getting any dates. Reading his profile was like reading a ''don't for internet dating guide'. While declaring his PH credentials with a love watching F1 he stated that every race weekend he sits in front of a TV with a DND hung on the door.

That pretty much tells any woman, i'm so into this stuff you will most likely find a boring as hell that you won't see me most weekends. That basic stuff doesn't appeal to most especially those with kids. Quite handy if you don't like the wee bastids though!!
A simple re-write saying your into your cars & enjoy motor racing is all it needs. Thats fine, some lasses may well like that too, but not being told to do one every fortnight while you're trying to get a relationship going.

Same with your presentation. No one is saying you have to prance around in a Hugo Boss get up, but not permanently dressing in monochrome wearing the same stey trainers you've had for 12 years & a hoodie with fried egg stains on it isn't telling a woman you're into her when you can't be arsed to make an effort for her. Save that until you're married!!

Remember a fair few posters saying I am who I am & won't change for anyone. PS why am i still single. Er........
No one is talking about wholesale changes to your lifestyle, just an acknowledgement that a lot of people (not just women**) will be attracted by your outward appearance, whether the way your clothed, how confident you are, how friendly you are.

  • This is also applicable to making new friends at new places - who knows where an opportunity to enrich your life may come from. I've even made good friendships with blokes who had been in the RAF ffs,
Edited by Echo66 on Monday 29th October 13:52


Edited by Echo66 on Monday 29th October 13:54

Blown2CV

28,879 posts

204 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Echo66 said:
I've said it before on here & I'll say it again, having some self-confidence is always going to help. You don't need to be an arrogant chopper with the big I am but a guy that knows his was around life is going to be a couple of steps up the ladder when it comes to getting a date.

That doesn't come across too easily on a profile, its a fine line to try & fined but its quite easy to crash & burn with a lame profile or first message. One of the most useful things I learnt was from girls i met that i didn't end up dating but stayed friends with.- they were great for bouncing opinions & horror stories off about dating. Loads of pointers about the things they 'need' to see in a profile before they'll bother. 7-8 years ago Match & PoF ladies were getting up to 150 messages a week. Nearly all wouldn't be read/looked at if the initial profile pic was crap, the opening line/subject line was crap. With that many messages to wade through (& if some woman is looking for something serious she may well be on 2 -3 different sites/apps) then there isn't the time so they need to have something pop out at them (nudge nudge...........wink wink)

In the 3-4 years i was trawling the sites, i sent less than 20 messages instigating contact, It was always the other way around. I had decent pics of a smart looking bloke, in shape & looking like I enjoyed life. I'm not a looker, i'm about a 5-6 & am just under 6ft but I am confident & successful in a number of things I've tried - thats on top of decades of on & off struggle with mental health issues (PTSD) as well as a couple of serious injuries through 'work'. I just bounce back a bit thats all.
I just found it quite easy to put together a profile write up that was witty & may have created some interest for a lass reading it.
I had a PH mate who started dating off the back of the fun i was having, he complained he wasn't getting any dates. Reading his profile was like reading a ''don't for internet dating guide'. While declaring his PH credentials with a love watching F1 he stated that every race weekend he sits in front of a TV with a DND hung on the door.

That pretty much tells any woman, i'm so into this stuff you will most likely find a boring as hell that you won't see me most weekends. That basic stuff doesn't appeal to most especially those with kids. Quite handy if you don't like the wee bastids though!!
A simple re-write saying your into your cars & enjoy motor racing is all it needs. Thats fine, some lasses may well like that too, but not being told to do one every fortnight while you're trying to get a relationship going.

Same with your presentation. No one is saying you have to prance around in a Hugo Boss get up, but not permanently dressing in monochrome wearing the same stey trainers you've had for 12 years & a hoodie with fried egg stains on it isn't telling a woman you're into her when you can't be arsed to make an effort for her. Save that until you're married!!

Remember a fair few posters saying I am who I am & won't change for anyone. PS why am i still single. Er........
No one is talking about wholesale changes to your lifestyle, just an acknowledgement that a lot of people (not just women**) will be attracted by your outward appearance, whether the way your clothed, how confident you are, how friendly you are.
  • This is also applicable to making new friends at new places - who knows where an opportunity to enrich your life may come from. I've even made good friendships with blokes who had been in the RAF ffs,
you've said in a more detailed an actionable way similar advice i have given on here previously, and i think it stands up. I have been somewhat frank with people on here too over the years. If you write a profile and interact in a way that portrays you as a boring, unsociable, tedious, rude, stubborn and inflexible tt then yea unless you are a male model you will certainly get fk all pussy. It is unfortunate if you also happen to be all of those things, because you can't magic those things away in person even if you can write a work of fiction profile to get some sniffs.

TroubledSoul

4,602 posts

195 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Agree with all of that, Echo. It's for that reason that my profile has a pic of me in the car on track and another of me with an elephant when I was volunteering in Thailand earlier this year. I don't look particularly good in the pic to be honest, but it shows I've lived a bit of life, seen some of the world and that I like to travel and live a bit. That's the sort of thing women seem to find attractive in my own experience!

If your only pics are generic selfies then you'll get nowhere in many cases.

gregs656

10,906 posts

182 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Has anyone ever tried speed dating? I wonder if that could be an option for mj - it would be a bit sink or swim but if it went well might be a bit of a confidence booster?

Another option are these meetup groups which seem to be growing in popularity, that would probably be less stressful than speed dating.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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I can imagine speed dating being a better option for those of us who are, lets say, more charming than beautiful.

And surely more fun than sitting on the bog, swiping and wiping.

gregs656

10,906 posts

182 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Does (why) speeding still even exist ??


I’d be more worried of the types you get there rather than online !!
It does. I know my mate's ex-girlfriend (late 20s) has done it a few times.

If you haven't been on many dates and you're not having much luck online speed dating, or a meet up group, would at least get you face time with a bunch of people, put you under a bit of pressure and therefore hopefully develop some confidence meeting new people.



Edited by gregs656 on Monday 29th October 19:04

LosingGrip

7,827 posts

160 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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gregs656 said:
Has anyone ever tried speed dating? I wonder if that could be an option for mj - it would be a bit sink or swim but if it went well might be a bit of a confidence booster?

Another option are these meetup groups which seem to be growing in popularity, that would probably be less stressful than speed dating.
A friend I dated a few years ago went once. Apparently it was a bit of a sausage fest! She couldn't wait to get out of there ha.

mjb1

2,556 posts

160 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Toyoda said:
Right mjb1, some useful information coming out of your last post. Plenty of half justifiable reasons why things haven't been working for you but the old adage is if you keep on doing what you've always done, you'll keep on getting what you've always had.

It's time to stop making excuses and take charge! I totally understand you live in a rural county, so you've generally got to drive to meet. Not ideal but no harm in that. There's always taxis if you can afford them and if you think she may be worth it. By date number 2 or 3 you should get the offer of a stayover, or have her over your place.

Forget about pulling in your local country pubs but take credit for getting out there most weekends. No harm in being cheeky with the town bike, I'm sure she'll have friends. However, online is your friend. I know you've had no luck so far but as discussed previously it's all about making the effort. Dress right, get maybe 3 or 4 good photos, write a couple of witty (but not obscure) lines to hook women in. You're well aware of your competition but you have to do whatever you can to stand out. I dare say most of the posters on this thread aren't 6 foot adonises, but can still attract, charm and arrange to meet women. Know your target market. I'm not chasing the heavily filtered fatties (though I've been catfished by a couple!), and I've had women say that tinder men's profiles are awash with moody looking mirror selfies and half naked gym shots. Any girl I'd be chasing isn't interested in that so I've got photos demonstrating a smart casual playful vibe.

Now if you've never been on a date with a complete stranger I can imagine why you're a bit scared. When I was dating years ago I'd have likely met them originally in a dimly lit bar pissed up on a Saturday night, got their number, waited a few days (to play it cool), then arranged a date, but at least I'd have sampled the goods beforehand so to speak. Nowadays you've got a handful of flattering pics and a couple of pages of phone banter to go off and next thing you know you're meeting them in real life. Yes it can be daunting, but exciting at the same time and the approach to take is not to give a flying fk. She'll almost certainly also have a touch of the nerves as well. It's to be expected. As I say above, I've been thoroughly disappointed with the look of my last 2 dates, but stuck them out and the chat was good. Spending any time in the company of women on the premise of a date will help build your confidence and is all good practice. If you do get so far as a date then don't sit there like it's a job interview answering questions thinking if I do alright here I might get to shag her. As with your messaging, keep it lighthearted, tease her, challenge her, have fun.

Edited by Toyoda on Monday 29th October 08:22
Thanks for that, all helpful stuff. I've started listening to an audio book of The Game, hoping I might be able to pick up a few clues from there. And no, the town bike doesn't have any female friends, always out with small groups of blokes. I've been back to her place with them a few times for her after pub parties, pretty sure she's banging any/all of them except me.

TroubledSoul said:
MJB, did you see any of the advice I gave you a couple of days ago? I didn't see you respond so wasn't sure. Believe in yourself mate. Even Fred West found a soulmate laugh

But seriously, if you're struggling then get the paid subscription for Tinder for a month. That lets you see who has liked you and you can then like them and get yourself a match. Cast that net buddy thumbup
I don't think I've missed anything you've said, taking in all the advice even if I haven't responded directly. I'm not sure a tinder subscription is going to help me much - as I mentioned a while back, I've swiped right on everyone, all the way til I've reached the end of tinder, daily). So if anyone had swiped right on me, there'd be a match? Keeping off there anyway, at least until such time as I can get some better photo's together.

I might try the meet up groups. Had a bit of a look, and they are pretty thin on the ground near me, although there is one for live music events where the next event has 3 attendees so far, all of whom appear to be female. Unless I drive there (i.e. don't drink), the last train back is 10:30pm. Other alternative is to get a room for the night as I'll be back there the next day for a sports event anyway.

I'm definitely not ready for speed dating, would probably freeze up completely!

Coming to the conclusion that this last woman has messed my head up completely - before her I was semi content bumbling along not even trying to meet anyone, but now she's given me a taste of something. She keeps blowing hot and cold, one week she's carrying on like we're an item, the next she tells me it was just sex and then goes cold. I'd be happy with it just being physical, if I didn't feel she was leading me on and then putting me on the back burner for weeks at a time. All the while, we're messaging constantly, 18 hours a day (for the last 6 months). I should probably burn her, but there does seem to be some chemistry there. I'm coming to the conclusion that it was all just a facade to get what she wanted from me, which has shattered any self confidence I did have.

fttm

3,697 posts

136 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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mjb1 said:
I don't think I've missed anything you've said, taking in all the advice even if I haven't responded directly. I'm not sure a tinder subscription is going to help me much - as I mentioned a while back, I've swiped right on everyone, all the way til I've reached the end of tinder, daily). So if anyone had swiped right on me, there'd be a match? Keeping off there anyway, at least until such time as I can get some better photo's together.

I might try the meet up groups. Had a bit of a look, and they are pretty thin on the ground near me, although there is one for live music events where the next event has 3 attendees so far, all of whom appear to be female. Unless I drive there (i.e. don't drink), the last train back is 10:30pm. Other alternative is to get a room for the night as I'll be back there the next day for a sports event anyway.

I'm definitely not ready for speed dating, would probably freeze up completely!

Coming to the conclusion that this last woman has messed my head up completely - before her I was semi content bumbling along not even trying to meet anyone, but now she's given me a taste of something. She keeps blowing hot and cold, one week she's carrying on like we're an item, the next she tells me it was just sex and then goes cold. I'd be happy with it just being physical, if I didn't feel she was leading me on and then putting me on the back burner for weeks at a time. All the while, we're messaging constantly, 18 hours a day (for the last 6 months). I should probably burn her, but there does seem to be some chemistry there. I'm coming to the conclusion that it was all just a facade to get what she wanted from me, which has shattered any self confidence I did have.
Have you asked the local bike for a sympathy shag yet ? Have you mentioned to the woman you're messaging that you'd happily keep it purely physical ? You've got nothing to lose so go for it . Failing that get on the next flight to North America , the British accent does wonderful things to the women here , I jest not .

Shnozz

27,503 posts

272 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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fttm said:
Have you asked the local bike for a sympathy shag yet ? Have you mentioned to the woman you're messaging that you'd happily keep it purely physical ? You've got nothing to lose so go for it . Failing that get on the next flight to North America , the British accent does wonderful things to the women here , I jest not .
Coupled with the fact that the expectation is for the British to look more like Austen Powers than David Gandy. So if you’re an ugly bstard you’ll at least be inkeeping with stereotypes.

Just make sure you can easily converse very much more Hugh Grant voice than anything from the regions.

When single I was always saddened to be returning from N America. It was like taking off a magic cloak when I landed back in the U.K.

Echo66

384 posts

190 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
I've flown to Aberdeen for a conference - the Bumble has lit up with 10 hits overnight......

Lotta desparation up here clearly smile
Its Aberdeen FFS, they'd shag anything with a dick & a pulse. Pulse occasionally optional depending on how much booze the munter has downed.

Condi

17,257 posts

172 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
I've flown to Aberdeen for a conference - the Bumble has lit up with 10 hits overnight......

Lotta desparation up here clearly smile
Either dog rough with 2 kids.

Or husband works offshore and they're bored. Fill yer boots.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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Condi said:
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
I've flown to Aberdeen for a conference - the Bumble has lit up with 10 hits overnight......

Lotta desparation up here clearly smile
Either dog rough with 2 kids.

Or husband works offshore and they're bored. Fill yer boots.
Fill yer boots from a roughneck's whisky cupboard, and hope to hell he's not on a surprise trip home...

mjb1

2,556 posts

160 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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fttm said:
Have you asked the local bike for a sympathy shag yet ? Have you mentioned to the woman you're messaging that you'd happily keep it purely physical ? You've got nothing to lose so go for it . Failing that get on the next flight to North America , the British accent does wonderful things to the women here , I jest not .
Local bike has enough semi desperate blokes lined up already, I'd be at the back of a long queue and I'm not sure I'd want to follow some of the blokes in front of me! I have kids (they stay with me about half the week), so I can't just jet off somewhere. To be honest, it's tempting, but I think the tie of my kids is the only thing stopping me from packing a bag and running away as far as possible right now.

Friend with benefits knows I'd take anything I can get, and I've explained that I can't get by on a shag every couple of months, especially with constant leading on in between. She's juggling at least 3 different blokes, I'm sure her neighbours think she must be on the game with all the different cars parking on her drive overnight - I've left 3 of mine there at different times! One of the other blokes she's 'seeing' is her ex husband, and he's getting most of the attention (her excuse is that he comes to see the kids and ends up staying over - making out that he's the easy option because the kids are used to him being there etc). I've suggested to her that it's not possible to just have casual sex with an ex lover, particularly as she's told other people she's still in love with him. She tells me that she's not fully over him (they've been separated for 3 years) and that's why she she's bailed out of subsequent attempts at other relationships, because her heart hasn't been in it. I've told her she might as well get back together with him - they're getting on well enough to be shagging, they're doing 'family' stuff together with the kids. He's getting all the benefits of them being a couple without taking any of the responsibility. She still has all the disadvantages of being a full time single parent (don't think he's even paying child maintenance, and she has to work two jobs to get by, including night shifts on the rare occasions he has the kids). She doesn't have time or the need for anything more frequent with me. I've now not messaged her for 36 hours, longest radio silence in 6 months. But avoiding her completely is impossible - our paths cross all the time.

TroubledSoul

4,602 posts

195 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
You do right.

Bin that FWB. Not healthy (mentally or physically)


Delete her as much as possible and definitely out of the phone.
He's right. And I say that as someone who has gotten attached and found it very hard to leave certain girls in the past previously.

A girl I pulled in Blackpool about 14 years ago added me on Snapchat the other day. Sounds like she's been thinking about me for years. Must have made an impression laugh She's with someone and she's not really a looker but it's nice being bombarded with compliments laugh No intention of going there though. It's really weird, there's been a couple of people I like and been too keen, scared them off. Ones I'm not bothered about just won't leave me alone and think I'm amazing. It's absolutely sod's law.

The conversation with the little tidy blonde off Tinder is going well. I'm very keen to meet her. Turns out she grew up just up the road from me and we have a fair few things in common. She said last night that it was nice to speak to someone with something about them and not just the same old, same old so that's nice. I was talking random st mostly to be honest but she seems to like me.

Sorry MJB if I came across as being off before, I wasn't. I was just wondering if you'd read what I said. Get the paid Tinder for one month mate. You might get liked by someone a tad further away than you're normally looking for or maybe a year older, whatever. But you'll see who has liked you instead of just wondering. You can't be that bad buddy. You just need a pick me up.

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

73 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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I'm probably not helping here biggrin , but the mjb chap needs to familiarise himself with xvideos, xhamster, redtube, prawnhub etc.

OK, I'll getmecoat

kowalski655

14,656 posts

144 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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Lemming Train said:
I'm probably not helping here biggrin , but the mjb chap needs to familiarise himself with xvideos, xhamster, redtube, prawnhub etc.

OK, I'll getmecoat
Sod that ! Go the AFF route,or Fab,its free.

slipstream 1985

12,249 posts

180 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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My husband died feb 2017 and I miss the affection cuddles and company. I live alone with my cat. (Who i class as my daughter) hurt her and ill tear ya to pieces. I was with him from 19-32 and since he died I've hid away in the house. I'd have to be drunk first few times prob cause I'm so shy and not used to all this. I love pet rats sadly all mine are dead and cat with rats prob not a good mix tho she was friends with the older rats. So I have a rat car reg lol rat tattoos and im a bit fiery and grumpy sometimes short tempered angry.(a bit more chill nowadays) I'd like no bald guys or beards. I do have a type but I guess it depends how we click or whatever. It's been a long time since I did this lol and all my pics are wrong way round oml. Oh and also I'm afraid no steves or stevens that was hubby's name and that would be weird tho when ive completed my sugar skull and rat tattoo by adding his name it won't be so weird hehehe my dark humour. Oh I loves music all kinds well not that weird screeching stuff. I feels music in ma bones. Loves waking up wiggle dancing to ma music. Did I mention I was a bit nuts and dont really act ma age hehehe. Also im lookin gor someone i can regularly buy weed from ta


One of pofs finest in my area. Sad for her but so much crazyness
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