The PH Cigar Thread

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Mastodon2

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13,826 posts

166 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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Rossetti said:
Only started smoking cigars, rarely straying from RyJ Petit Juiletas, which I find are very nice. That said, I'm quite tempted by the Churchills. Recommended for the novice smoker?
No reason you couldn't have a Churchill, give it a shot and see what you think.

jinkster

2,248 posts

157 months

Sunday 18th December 2016
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Goaty Bill 2 said:
If you look in the mainstream shops, prices can be absolutely eye-watering.
But size is importantbiggrin.
How many cigars are you looking to store?

These guys My Smokingshop and their own brand humidors may be a good place to start for budget humidors.

I got a larger version of this (click photo for link) a couple of years ago and it's been fine.

It's not a work of art, but neither is it something to be ashamed of in your front room or office.
10-20 at the most I'd guess. I was looking for something more desktop. Is it worth buying a good one rather than something cheap? Will a cheaper one work or is it completely pointless?

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 18th December 2016
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Enjoyed one of these at an outdoor night market pub in bangkok last night. Penultimate stick from that box unfortunately... Suppose I need to get ordering a fresh stash for the humidor.

Also enjoyed a nice montie 2 on Friday evening on the balcony. Thankfully still have a decent stock of these to see me through Xmas and New year parties. smile


Can HIGHLY recommend either but make sure and inspect the number 2's before purchasing. Some less than quality examples been produced the past year or so.

Goaty Bill 2

3,414 posts

120 months

Sunday 18th December 2016
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jinkster said:
Goaty Bill 2 said:
If you look in the mainstream shops, prices can be absolutely eye-watering.
But size is importantbiggrin.
How many cigars are you looking to store?

These guys My Smokingshop and their own brand humidors may be a good place to start for budget humidors.

I got a larger version of this (click photo for link) a couple of years ago and it's been fine.

It's not a work of art, but neither is it something to be ashamed of in your front room or office.
10-20 at the most I'd guess. I was looking for something more desktop. Is it worth buying a good one rather than something cheap? Will a cheaper one work or is it completely pointless?
The principal requirements would seem to be;
- reasonably airtight to maintain humidity
- Spanish cedar lining and drawers/shelves/dividers
- enough internal space to allow a bit of circulation
- accommodation for a humidifying device
- hygrometer

Where the costs seem to sky rocket will be
- branding
- exotic external woods / finishes
- high quality hinges and lock (heavy gold plating is not uncommon)
- special attention to acquiring documented older growth (non plantation) well aged cedar for the lining - Spanish cedar (not a true cedar) is relatively inexpensive overall.

Despite the requirement for an airtight seal, one is commonly advised to regularly air the cigars, and in all circumstances to keep a regular watch on the relative humidity (RH) and temperature.
Digital hygrometer/thermometers are better than the classic brass 'gauge' hair type, though an external display gauge will easily allow you to notice changes without opening the lid.

A relatively cheap humidor, if properly prepared, and regularly checked, will without doubt give a better result than a jar or sealed plastic box. Much nicer to own, or to offer a cigar from, as well.

Cigars invariably improve with age, so a decent environment is quite important to that aspect.



Edited by Goaty Bill 2 on Sunday 18th December 13:39

Rossetti

18 posts

139 months

Sunday 18th December 2016
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Mastodon2 said:
No reason you couldn't have a Churchill, give it a shot and see what you think.
Thanks. I'll pick one up -as soon as I finish off the rest- and see how I get on. Great thread, by the way!

Goaty Bill 2

3,414 posts

120 months

Sunday 18th December 2016
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Rossetti said:
Mastodon2 said:
No reason you couldn't have a Churchill, give it a shot and see what you think.
Thanks. I'll pick one up -as soon as I finish off the rest- and see how I get on. Great thread, by the way!
I agree with Mastodon2.
The RyJ Petite is an especially good cigar for the novice, and many regular smokers as well.

Just keep in mind that there is a lot more cigar in a Churchill (that's pretty obvious I know).
You will likely need a good hour (or 2-3 times as much time as the petite) to enjoy it without rushing.
Pick your time carefully and enjoy smile


bunglesprout

563 posts

92 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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New Adorini humidor for Xmas! Along with some Monte No.4's and Romeo y Julieta No.2's . Lovely!


anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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Lovely stuff!

Debating with myself over my boxing day smoke.

Montie 2, r&j Churchill or mag50.

Decisions decisions... scratchchin

Goaty Bill 2

3,414 posts

120 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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bunglesprout said:
New Adorini humidor for Xmas! Along with some Monte No.4's and Romeo y Julieta No.2's . Lovely!

I am staring in some envy at that row of Cohibas smile
And are those double Edmundos I see there in the front left?
The Adorini humidors are really quite lovely. Excellent value for money considering the build quality as well. Very nice.


DoubleTime said:
Lovely stuff!

Debating with myself over my boxing day smoke.

Montie 2, r&j Churchill or mag50.

Decisions decisions... scratchchin
Ain't life a bh smile


peter tdci

1,771 posts

151 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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DoubleTime said:
Lovely stuff!

Debating with myself over my boxing day smoke.

Montie 2, r&j Churchill or mag50.

Decisions decisions... scratchchin
First World Problems thread >>>>

smile

bunglesprout

563 posts

92 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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Goaty Bill 2 said:
bunglesprout said:
New Adorini humidor for Xmas! Along with some Monte No.4's and Romeo y Julieta No.2's . Lovely!

I am staring in some envy at that row of Cohibas smile
And are those double Edmundos I see there in the front left?
The Adorini humidors are really quite lovely. Excellent value for money considering the build quality as well. Very nice.


DoubleTime said:
Lovely stuff!

Debating with myself over my boxing day smoke.

Montie 2, r&j Churchill or mag50.

Decisions decisions... scratchchin
Ain't life a bh smile
Yes Double Edmundos in the front left. The Cohibas are lovely, a real sweet flavour compared to the Montes. Really chuffed with humidor. I think I'll be starting on the Monte No.4's later smilesmile

bunglesprout

563 posts

92 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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Goaty Bill 2 said:
bunglesprout said:
New Adorini humidor for Xmas! Along with some Monte No.4's and Romeo y Julieta No.2's . Lovely!

I am staring in some envy at that row of Cohibas smile
And are those double Edmundos I see there in the front left?
The Adorini humidors are really quite lovely. Excellent value for money considering the build quality as well. Very nice.


DoubleTime said:
Lovely stuff!

Debating with myself over my boxing day smoke.

Montie 2, r&j Churchill or mag50.

Decisions decisions... scratchchin
Ain't life a bh smile
Yes Double Edmundos in the front left. The Cohibas are lovely, a real sweet flavour compared to the Montes. Really chuffed with humidor. I think I'll be starting on the Monte No.4's later smilesmile

Mastodon2

Original Poster:

13,826 posts

166 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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I didn't have a chance to get a Christmas cigar in, but I did buy myself a nice Xikar Allume tabletop lighter a few days before Christmas. I'm looking forward to getting back to my local lounge to put it to work.

It's a solid piece, in a dark gunmetal finish called "Stealth G2", triple jet with a side-bar ignition, very easy to click and feels like a really nice action. It's perhaps bit much for something I will take to the lounge and take home with me but it just felt so good in the hand, it's about 3.5" tall and weighs a fair amount. Xikar offer lifetime warranty on all of their products too, which is handy should it ever go wrong.


anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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tis indeed!

I'm sure we all work hard for these little pleasures. smile

jinkster

2,248 posts

157 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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Do you all smoke inside the house? Man cave or outside?

LiamD

254 posts

202 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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Can any of you seasoned smokers recommend some cigars for me and some friends to smoke for NYE, would the word beginners be right when it comes to cigar smoking? laughlaugh

Mastodon2

Original Poster:

13,826 posts

166 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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jinkster said:
Do you all smoke inside the house? Man cave or outside?
In the garden in summer, or at my local cigar lounge which is part of a local specialist tobacconist.

LiamD said:
Can any of you seasoned smokers recommend some cigars for me and some friends to smoke for NYE, would the word beginners be right when it comes to cigar smoking? laughlaugh
You'll want something mild to medium in body and strength at most and tubed so you can purchase them ahead of time of whatever NYE event you're attending and not worry about them drying out. Visit your local cigar shop and they might have zip lock bags and humidity pouches you won't be restricted to only tubed cigars. Pick up a cheap butane jet lighter while you're there and ask them to cut whatever cigars you buy ready for smoking.

Something like a Romeo y Julieta no 2 is a good shout, as is the Por Larranaga Petit Coronas. You're really best off asking your tobacconist what he has in though. Don't be tempted to go for something massive or really strong, you'll end up not enjoying it and might put yourself off for the future. Remember to smoke slow, don't draw into the lungs and don't rush it. Set aside an hour at least. Enjoy!


Edited by Mastodon2 on Monday 26th December 22:21

Loyly

17,996 posts

160 months

Tuesday 27th December 2016
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LiamD said:
Can any of you seasoned smokers recommend some cigars for me and some friends to smoke for NYE, would the word beginners be right when it comes to cigar smoking? laughlaugh
Yes, like Mastodon says, don't get carried away and buy something huge or really strong, you won't enjoy it if you're not used to the nicotine content.

When I started smoking cigars about ten years ago, all the American guys I talked to about cigars online recommended a Punch Coronation as a fine starter. It was a good place to start. They were silver tubes back then but the brand colouring has changed to green now. I prefer new world cigars now, as they tend to be a bit more varied and exotic than the very traditional Cuban product.

Just make sure you get them cut at the store, and that both ends are open before you intend to smoke them. If you go to a party or whatever and find someone still has their cap on, you'll end up making a right mess if you try to cut it off with anything less than a proper cutter.

Goaty Bill 2

3,414 posts

120 months

Tuesday 27th December 2016
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jinkster said:
Do you all smoke inside the house? Man cave or outside?
When at home, in the sitting room, usually with a large glass of port, or occasionally a Havana Club dark rum.

When in London, my favourite cigar merchant's lounge, or the heated terrace at the whiskey club.


Goaty Bill 2

3,414 posts

120 months

Tuesday 27th December 2016
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LiamD said:
Can any of you seasoned smokers recommend some cigars for me and some friends to smoke for NYE, would the word beginners be right when it comes to cigar smoking? laughlaugh
Good advice above.
I might add, ask the tobacconist if they have a 'V cut' cigar cutter.
For anyone that's not tried one, I strongly recommend it.

In Columbo:
"A Trace Of Murder, we learn that Columbo has begun smoking uncut cigars. We have no doubt that they’re as cheap and aromatic as his old brand, but they do require some preparation. Columbo has taken up the practice of biting the end off his cigars.

Columbo is chided for this practice by Clifford Calvert (Barry Corbin), who tries to persuade Columbo to use a “wedge” cigar-cutter.

A wedge-cutter, says Calvert, is “the only civilized way to prepare a cigar for smoking…keeps the filler tobacco out of your mouth. What do you do? You gnaw on it like a beaver! I don’t know how you smoke ‘em after you mangle ‘em like that.”

Calvert offers a wedge-cutter to Columbo -- “Here,… at least make some little attempt to be civilized.”

Columbo is briefly converted to civilization. Later, breaking out his new wedge-cutter, he piously tells Barney, “The way you cut a cigar makes all the difference in the world.” Then Columbo tastes his cigar with the civilized wedge-cut, and makes an awful face. He bites off the end of his cigar with a loud crunch, loudly spits the end to the sidewalk, and happily strides into Barney’s Beanery, puffing away."