World War Two: Evidence of damage/stuff left over now.
Discussion
Legacywr said:
I realised, I meant that I don't have the skills to follow the procedure to open it all up! 
It's pretty straight forward and interesting.Download google earth:
https://www.google.com/earth/download/ge/agree.htm...
Install it.
Download the kmz file linked:
http://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/catalogue/adsd...
Double click on the kmz file(wherever you saved it) to open it.
Under places on the left hand side, you'll see an entry for 'The Defense of Britain Project'. You can expand it and select which elements you want to display.
Martin4x4 said:
Hull is largely forgotten as blitz target despite being one of, if not the most heavily bombed city in the UK with 95% of its home being destroyed or damaged. The Humber docks made Hull a valuable target and the estuary made it an easy target to find. At a time when accurate night time bombing was nearly impossible, the Estuary acted like a big arrow pointing at the cities heart.
This is a few hundred meters from my home.
The Hull Blitz map shows many of the sticks of bombs dropped on Hull. Take note of the gaps in the sticks, WW2 bombs were notoriously unreliable with about 1 in 4 not exploding on impact. My house actually sits in one of those gaps, the house south east of me destroyed by direct hit and now a pub car park, the building to north west of me also destroyed. My home should be long gone, but seemingly sits in the path one of those duds.
As a kid, we used to go to Fraisthorpe beach where anti-invasion Bunkers & Anti-Tank Traps can still be found today.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Coasta...
There are a good few bomb damaged building facades around Hull if you look. Plus the gaps you mentioned in housing rows. I remember a sign on the Adelphi club, I think it goes something like this. "Club founded by XYZ, carpark created by the Luftwaffe".This is a few hundred meters from my home.
The Hull Blitz map shows many of the sticks of bombs dropped on Hull. Take note of the gaps in the sticks, WW2 bombs were notoriously unreliable with about 1 in 4 not exploding on impact. My house actually sits in one of those gaps, the house south east of me destroyed by direct hit and now a pub car park, the building to north west of me also destroyed. My home should be long gone, but seemingly sits in the path one of those duds.
As a kid, we used to go to Fraisthorpe beach where anti-invasion Bunkers & Anti-Tank Traps can still be found today.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Coasta...
Edited by Martin4x4 on Tuesday 22 September 22:55
As you say its one of the forgotten city's of the blitz, my grandma, only a young girl at the time, remembers a great deal of it. None of which a 6/7 year old should ever have witness.
jmorgan said:
CarlosFandango11 said:
fatboy18 said:
ell there was a little complex called the Maginot line, they just nipped around that 
Yes, there has been many a debate on whether the plan to invade would have worked? But I still think we were lucky.
Would this be the Maginot line that ended at the Luxembourg/Belgium border,,,,? Didn't the Germans invade france via Belgium? And wasn't the Maginot line french built and hence not ours?Yes, there has been many a debate on whether the plan to invade would have worked? But I still think we were lucky.
Edited by fatboy18 on Wednesday 23 September 08:11
No luck involved, plenty of foresight and preparation and planning though.
The damage to my family has been irreparable.
My grandparents killed in the Blitz.
The family home destroyed and all possessions lost.
My dad and several siblings severely wounded with life changing injuries.
My mother traumatised by the bombing when working to keep the telephones working in London. Several cousins killed by bombing later in the war.
My mother was also injured when pregnant with me by a V2 rocket.
My mum and dad were virtually destitute after the War. Only friends and family kept them from going under.
My grandparents killed in the Blitz.
The family home destroyed and all possessions lost.
My dad and several siblings severely wounded with life changing injuries.
My mother traumatised by the bombing when working to keep the telephones working in London. Several cousins killed by bombing later in the war.
My mother was also injured when pregnant with me by a V2 rocket.
My mum and dad were virtually destitute after the War. Only friends and family kept them from going under.
Strangely enough, the BBC has a story today about unexploded WWII bombs still around:
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20150922-these-naz...
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20150922-these-naz...
Bluedot said:
Strangely enough, the BBC has a story today about unexploded WWII bombs still around:
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20150922-these-naz...
Whenever I buy a site in a historically industrialised area I look at the bomb map to get an idea of the risk of UXB's. In Birmingham's jewellery quarter I bought a site where there was a uxb shown on adjoining land. The developer of that site actually came across it and had to stop work for a few days whilst it was dealt withhttp://www.bbc.com/future/story/20150922-these-naz...
A few years back we went to Prague
When we went there I knew I had to go to St Cyril's church where the assassins of Reinhard Heydrich were cornered after being double crossed by a colleague
They put up a ferocious defence from the crypt
Eventually the nazis tried smoking them out then flooding them out
After which they took their own lives rather than be captured
Don't know how well this story is known but if you're ever in Prague the crypt is well worth a visit
Bullet holes are still visible around the vent and the start of a hole that they desperately started to try and tunnel out is exactly as they left it
A very good film was made about it called operation daybreak
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When we went there I knew I had to go to St Cyril's church where the assassins of Reinhard Heydrich were cornered after being double crossed by a colleague
They put up a ferocious defence from the crypt
Eventually the nazis tried smoking them out then flooding them out
After which they took their own lives rather than be captured
Don't know how well this story is known but if you're ever in Prague the crypt is well worth a visit
Bullet holes are still visible around the vent and the start of a hole that they desperately started to try and tunnel out is exactly as they left it
A very good film was made about it called operation daybreak
Rammon said:
A few years back we went to Prague
When we went there I knew I had to go to St Cyril's church where the assassins of Reinhard Heydrich were cornered after being double crossed by a colleague
They put up a ferocious defence from the crypt
Eventually the nazis tried smoking them out then flooding them out
After which they took their own lives rather than be captured
Don't know how well this story is known but if you're ever in Prague the crypt is well worth a visit
Bullet holes are still visible around the vent and the start of a hole that they desperately started to try and tunnel out is exactly as they left it
A very good film was made about it called operation daybreak
Poor sods When we went there I knew I had to go to St Cyril's church where the assassins of Reinhard Heydrich were cornered after being double crossed by a colleague
They put up a ferocious defence from the crypt
Eventually the nazis tried smoking them out then flooding them out
After which they took their own lives rather than be captured
Don't know how well this story is known but if you're ever in Prague the crypt is well worth a visit
Bullet holes are still visible around the vent and the start of a hole that they desperately started to try and tunnel out is exactly as they left it
A very good film was made about it called operation daybreak
Sad film
Saddle bum said:
The damage to my family has been irreparable.
My grandparents killed in the Blitz.
The family home destroyed and all possessions lost.
My dad and several siblings severely wounded with life changing injuries.
My mother traumatised by the bombing when working to keep the telephones working in London. Several cousins killed by bombing later in the war.
My mother was also injured when pregnant with me by a V2 rocket.
My mum and dad were virtually destitute after the War. Only friends and family kept them from going under.
Bloody hell. The less remembered price of the war paid by those who lived through it My grandparents killed in the Blitz.
The family home destroyed and all possessions lost.
My dad and several siblings severely wounded with life changing injuries.
My mother traumatised by the bombing when working to keep the telephones working in London. Several cousins killed by bombing later in the war.
My mother was also injured when pregnant with me by a V2 rocket.
My mum and dad were virtually destitute after the War. Only friends and family kept them from going under.
Very sobering. My Sympathies.
fatboy18 said:
Rammon said:
A few years back we went to Prague
When we went there I knew I had to go to St Cyril's church where the assassins of Reinhard Heydrich were cornered after being double crossed by a colleague
They put up a ferocious defence from the crypt
Eventually the nazis tried smoking them out then flooding them out
After which they took their own lives rather than be captured
Don't know how well this story is known but if you're ever in Prague the crypt is well worth a visit
Bullet holes are still visible around the vent and the start of a hole that they desperately started to try and tunnel out is exactly as they left it
A very good film was made about it called operation daybreak
Poor sods When we went there I knew I had to go to St Cyril's church where the assassins of Reinhard Heydrich were cornered after being double crossed by a colleague
They put up a ferocious defence from the crypt
Eventually the nazis tried smoking them out then flooding them out
After which they took their own lives rather than be captured
Don't know how well this story is known but if you're ever in Prague the crypt is well worth a visit
Bullet holes are still visible around the vent and the start of a hole that they desperately started to try and tunnel out is exactly as they left it
A very good film was made about it called operation daybreak
Sad film
Martin4x4 said:
Hull is largely forgotten as blitz target despite being one of, if not the most heavily bombed city in the UK with 95% of its home being destroyed or damaged. The Humber docks made Hull a valuable target and the estuary made it an easy target to find. At a time when accurate night time bombing was nearly impossible, the Estuary acted like a big arrow pointing at the cities heart.
This is a few hundred meters from my home.
The Hull Blitz map shows many of the sticks of bombs dropped on Hull. Take note of the gaps in the sticks, WW2 bombs were notoriously unreliable with about 1 in 4 not exploding on impact. My house actually sits in one of those gaps, the house south east of me destroyed by direct hit and now a pub car park, the building to north west of me also destroyed. My home should be long gone, but seemingly sits in the path one of those duds.
As a kid, we used to go to Fraisthorpe beach where anti-invasion Bunkers & Anti-Tank Traps can still be found today.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Coasta...
Still can't believe I lived there for three years and didn't know about this. Sadly the map on the link requires me to download some software which I can't do. I lived in Cranbrook Avenue and Grafton Street. Without seeing the map, I guess the Grafton pub site was a former bomb site, and perhaps the petrol station at the Beverly Road end?This is a few hundred meters from my home.
The Hull Blitz map shows many of the sticks of bombs dropped on Hull. Take note of the gaps in the sticks, WW2 bombs were notoriously unreliable with about 1 in 4 not exploding on impact. My house actually sits in one of those gaps, the house south east of me destroyed by direct hit and now a pub car park, the building to north west of me also destroyed. My home should be long gone, but seemingly sits in the path one of those duds.
As a kid, we used to go to Fraisthorpe beach where anti-invasion Bunkers & Anti-Tank Traps can still be found today.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Coasta...
Edited by Martin4x4 on Tuesday 22 September 22:55
mcelliott said:
Kids wanted to go blackberry picking this evening, I took my camera. Bunkers, trenches, tunnels and gun batteries. Oh, and a tower or two.
For some reason Guernsey seems to have more of these sites intact than Jersey. I can't remember seeing any on Sark (might have missed them).They are massive structures and would be very costly and difficult to remove. 70 years on they remind us of a time when most of Europe was a place of terror and despair.
Paul
Storer said:
For some reason Guernsey seems to have more of these sites intact than Jersey. I can't remember seeing any on Sark (might have missed them).
They are massive structures and would be very costly and difficult to remove. 70 years on they remind us of a time when most of Europe was a place of terror and despair.
Paul
Yes I'm certain that Guernsey is more heavily fortified than Jersey, don't know why. Not forgetting Alderney of course, which had a slave labour/concentration camp where many atrocities occurred. Certainly no danger of the structures being pulled down, as they are now widely accepted as part of our landscape and history, and of course a great point of interest for many people. They are massive structures and would be very costly and difficult to remove. 70 years on they remind us of a time when most of Europe was a place of terror and despair.
Paul
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