Things that annoy you beyond reason...(Vol 4)

Things that annoy you beyond reason...(Vol 4)

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MartG

20,686 posts

205 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Stickyfinger said:
MartG said:
Stickyfinger said:
MartG said:
The fact that after voting down pay rises for nurses, police, firefighters etc., Tory MPs CHEERED furious
That people are so thick they think the MP's cheered for that reason......but are allowed to vote
I don't fking care why you think they cheered, but the fact that they did so is at very least bloody poor PR
Only to people who are as thick as mince
Or to thousands of emergency workers who have suffered below inflation pay rises for so long

grumbledoak

31,545 posts

234 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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MartG said:
Or to thousands of emergency workers who have suffered below inflation pay rises for so long
Along with most of the country.

Antony Moxey

8,086 posts

220 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Pay rises? What are they?

gowmonster

2,471 posts

168 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

106 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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MartG said:
Or to thousands of emergency workers who have suffered below inflation pay rises for so long
Please list the average wages and the top wages of the following

Basic Fireman
Nurse
Ambulance

Please tell me the pension contributions and type
Please give hours worked per week



Munter

31,319 posts

242 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Antony Moxey said:
Pay rises? What are they?
That's what you get when you quit one job and get another. Usually preceded by a pay cut in the original role.

Hackney

6,850 posts

209 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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gowmonster said:
Weird, that doesn't look like an Audi TT

Hackney

6,850 posts

209 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Stickyfinger said:
MartG said:
Or to thousands of emergency workers who have suffered below inflation pay rises for so long
Please list the average wages and the top wages of the following

Basic Fireman
Nurse
Ambulance

Please tell me the pension contributions and type
Please give hours worked per week
Please tell me how this relates to the cheering by MP's after the vote.

And, assume I just landed from Mars, tell me why they were cheering.


Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

106 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Hackney said:
Please tell me how this relates to the cheering by MP's after the vote.

And, assume I just landed from Mars, tell me why they were cheering.
Queens speech passed.....wake up to Labours cynical amendment.

How many Labour ministers sacked today ??


Edited by Stickyfinger on Thursday 29th June 22:32

Hackney

6,850 posts

209 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Stickyfinger said:
Hackney said:
Please tell me how this relates to the cheering by MP's after the vote.

And, assume I just landed from Mars, tell me why they were cheering.
Queens speech passed.....wake up to Labours cynical amendment.

How many Labour ministers sacked today ??


Edited by Stickyfinger on Thursday 29th June 22:32
Help me out, which bits of your post relate to each bit of mine?

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

106 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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The Queens speech passed....that bit.

227bhp

10,203 posts

129 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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The amount of parking spaces allocated to the disabled.
I estimated nigh on 30 outside Tesco and about 3 of them being used, 5 outside the sports centre all unused, wtf is that all about?

ClockworkCupcake

74,597 posts

273 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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227bhp said:
The amount of parking spaces allocated to the disabled.
I estimated nigh on 30 outside Tesco and about 3 of them being used, 5 outside the sports centre all unused, wtf is that all about?
I would imagine there is some sort of directive that says "the number of disabled parking spaces should be proportional to the total number of spaces, rather than a token one or two"

227bhp

10,203 posts

129 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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ClockworkCupcake said:
227bhp said:
The amount of parking spaces allocated to the disabled.
I estimated nigh on 30 outside Tesco and about 3 of them being used, 5 outside the sports centre all unused, wtf is that all about?
I would imagine there is some sort of directive that says "the number of disabled parking spaces should be proportional to the total number of spaces, rather than a token one or two"
There probably is, it doesn't stop it being a waste of space and annoying me though!
I'm wondering if there is a penalty for parking in the Tescos ones, I might aswell use it (no-one else does) so my car doesn't get dented....

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

106 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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227bhp said:
There probably is, it doesn't stop it being a waste of space and annoying me though!
I'm wondering if there is a penalty for parking in the Tescos ones, I might aswell use it (no-one else does) so my car doesn't get dented....
Until a disabled person turns up and there is a fully able tt in the disabled bay who is so fking lazy they cannot be bothered to walk a few extra yards............

Rich_W

12,548 posts

213 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Hackney said:
Stickyfinger said:
MartG said:
Or to thousands of emergency workers who have suffered below inflation pay rises for so long
Please list the average wages and the top wages of the following

Basic Fireman
Nurse
Ambulance

Please tell me the pension contributions and type
Please give hours worked per week
Please tell me how this relates to the cheering by MP's after the vote.

And, assume I just landed from Mars, tell me why they were cheering.
MartG makes the point that Emergency workers have received pay rises that are less than inflation. This is true

Stickyfinger says list the wages and pensions and hours of those workers. Pointing out they aren't on minimum wage. People on this very site have pointed out that a NHS nurse with the various bonus etc earns around mid 30s. I imagine many people on here earn less in the private sector and STILL manage without foodbanks. In fact there's been no actual evidence of more than a handful of those workers using foodbanks. Sadly foodbanks are seen as a legitimate alternative to paying for your own food by some parts of our country. Leaves more money for the essentials like iPhone7 and vaping juice... (so as ever don't believe anything that comes from the shadow cabinet)

He also points out that they will work less than 40 hours a week and get a VERY good pension. Both of which you wont get in the private sector. So WHY are those people complaining that they only get a little guaranteed wage, when most people in the private sector don't get a pay rise unless they change jobs.

In answer to your question Hackney.
The MPs were cheering because essentially Corby and his y friends were trying to point score, they don't give a st about the aforementioned professions. They were trying to make the government look weak, hoping that this would get voted through and then they could try and somehow get in power. And they failed to win and thus made Labours leadership look pathetic for trying it on. Hence the cheering

We saw the same thing today with that snake Umunna who tried to derail the Queens speech, again in some kind of weird power play. Which in their heads no doubt meant they could get the keys to number 10 off the back of it! rolleyes Again, this wasn't about the policy, but about implying that they should REALLY be in Number10


MartG

20,686 posts

205 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Stickyfinger said:
MartG said:
Or to thousands of emergency workers who have suffered below inflation pay rises for so long
Please list the average wages and the top wages of the following

Basic Fireman
Nurse
Ambulance

Please tell me the pension contributions and type
Please give hours worked per week
Why ? The point is that these critical workers have had zero or sub-inflation pay rises for several years, resulting in an effective lowering of their income to the point that many of them are facing financial problems - yet a pack of braying MPs who had an 11% rise last year cheered when they won a vote to continue to restrict these workers pay :/

If nothing else it is very poor PR given the recent events and statements by certain politicians about the critical importance of the emergency services

Edited by MartG on Friday 30th June 00:10

227bhp

10,203 posts

129 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Stickyfinger said:
227bhp said:
There probably is, it doesn't stop it being a waste of space and annoying me though!
I'm wondering if there is a penalty for parking in the Tescos ones, I might aswell use it (no-one else does) so my car doesn't get dented....
Until a disabled person turns up and there is a fully able tt in the disabled bay who is so fking lazy they cannot be bothered to walk a few extra yards............
You didn't read my first post on the subject did you?

Actually, you didn't read and understand much of what i'd posted at all laugh

Edited by 227bhp on Friday 30th June 08:26

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

106 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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MartG said:
Why ? The point is that these critical workers have had zero or sub-inflation pay rises for several years, resulting in an effective lowering of their income to the point that many of them are facing financial problems
ANY Fireman should not have financial problems unless they have made poor judgements
Same with a qualified nurse
etc etc

Rich_W

12,548 posts

213 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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MartG said:
Stickyfinger said:
MartG said:
Or to thousands of emergency workers who have suffered below inflation pay rises for so long
Please list the average wages and the top wages of the following

Basic Fireman
Nurse
Ambulance

Please tell me the pension contributions and type
Please give hours worked per week
Why ? The point is that these critical workers have had zero or sub-inflation pay rises for several years, resulting in an effective lowering of their income to the point that many of them are facing financial problems - yet a pack of braying MPs who had an 11% rise last year cheered when they won a vote to continue to restrict these workers pay :/

If nothing else it is very poor PR given the recent events and statements by certain politicians about the critical importance of the emergency services

Edited by MartG on Friday 30th June 00:10
Let me do it for you

Fireman Starting is £22K After training £29K rises after that with different levels
Nurse £21,6 rising to £28,1 then obviously overtime, bonus etc
Paramedic, Turns out Same as Nurses.

Whilst not millions, if you do these jobs and have some semblance of financial responsibility, you shouldn't really be facing problems. The wkers on the opposition bench who keep talking about "nurses at foodbanks" miss the point that A) Its a tiny minority, and b) those people have done it to themselves!

MPs pay is independent, but still a lot imo. But if you are thick you'll think the MPs are laughing at the professions and they aren't. But I do take your point from a PR perspective it's easy to be spun as "anti workers" and that would be gobbled up by the thickos who actually vote for Corbyn laugh

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