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p1stonhead

25,621 posts

168 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Roger Irrelevant said:
I heard a new one just this morning, possibly the worst ever. Somebody said "We need to T-shirt this problem". It turns out this means to determine whether a problem is small, medium, large or extra large. I honestly don't think I'll ever be able to look at the colleague that uttered that in the same way again.
Murder is legal in this situation I believe. I’m sure some legal expert will pop in and confirm shortly.

DaveTheRave87

2,096 posts

90 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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p1stonhead said:
Murder is legal in this situation I believe. I’m sure some legal expert will pop in and confirm shortly.
It's not murder, it's desuscitating.

Tresco

517 posts

158 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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'Direction of travel' now loved by politicians everywhere and fast replacing 'moving in the right direction'.


Scabutz

7,687 posts

81 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Dr Jekyll said:
Roger Irrelevant said:
I heard a new one just this morning, possibly the worst ever. Somebody said "We need to T-shirt this problem". It turns out this means to determine whether a problem is small, medium, large or extra large. I honestly don't think I'll ever be able to look at the colleague that uttered that in the same way again.
I worked somewhere which used a very similar phrase and it wasn't that ridiculous. It wasn't sizing A problem, but sizing the various jobs that had to be do done/would be nice to get done to determine which were quick fixes and which looked like major projects.. There had previously been some debate about whether to use a points score to express a rough estimate of the work involved, or just small/medium/large. So if someone said 'T shirt it' they would be understood to mean. 'Lets each make some rough estimates as to how big these tasks are and compare our results, and express them as small/medium/large as opposed to using the points system'.
They started that at my place. I was sat in a meeting and someone asked for a t shirt. I got a bking for asking them what the fking hell they were on about,

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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BrabusMog

20,222 posts

187 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Scabutz said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Roger Irrelevant said:
I heard a new one just this morning, possibly the worst ever. Somebody said "We need to T-shirt this problem". It turns out this means to determine whether a problem is small, medium, large or extra large. I honestly don't think I'll ever be able to look at the colleague that uttered that in the same way again.
I worked somewhere which used a very similar phrase and it wasn't that ridiculous. It wasn't sizing A problem, but sizing the various jobs that had to be do done/would be nice to get done to determine which were quick fixes and which looked like major projects.. There had previously been some debate about whether to use a points score to express a rough estimate of the work involved, or just small/medium/large. So if someone said 'T shirt it' they would be understood to mean. 'Lets each make some rough estimates as to how big these tasks are and compare our results, and express them as small/medium/large as opposed to using the points system'.
They started that at my place. I was sat in a meeting and someone asked for a t shirt. I got a bking for asking them what the fking hell they were on about,
rofl


SCEtoAUX

4,119 posts

82 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Johnnytheboy said:
Can't be having "Tiger Team". They had those in Mission Control and if it's good enough for 1960s NASA it's good enough for me.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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T-shirt sizing is something that’s been widely used in Agile product delivery for decades. Just gives a team a way of comparing the difficulty of doing something. When used with the “cost of delay” of not doing it, you have a scale for prioritising the easiest; highest return things first.

Most of the Management speak sniggering on here seems to be born of ignorance from minion types.

SAS Tom

3,418 posts

175 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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wormus said:
T-shirt sizing is something that’s been widely used in Agile product delivery for decades. Just gives a team a way of comparing the difficulty of doing something. When used with the “cost of delay” of not doing it, you have a scale for prioritising the easiest; highest return things first.

Most of the Management speak sniggering on here seems to be born of ignorance from minion types.
Why is there a need for anything to do with t shirts? If the useful part of it is a size why not call it a size?

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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SAS Tom said:
Why is there a need for anything to do with t shirts? If the useful part of it is a size why not call it a size?
What like feet and inches? Kilos? Perhaps European shoe size?

It’s S,M,L,XL


Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 11th July 19:04

Mr E

21,730 posts

260 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Roger Irrelevant said:
I heard a new one just this morning, possibly the worst ever. Somebody said "We need to T-shirt this problem". It turns out this means to determine whether a problem is small, medium, large or extra large. I honestly don't think I'll ever be able to look at the colleague that uttered that in the same way again.
At a guess, agile story estimation.
These concepts aren’t new.

ClaphamGT3

11,326 posts

244 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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After a number of years of people ‘reaching out’ to people, I notice that there is now quite a lot of ‘leaning into’ people and stuff going on

SAS Tom

3,418 posts

175 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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wormus said:
SAS Tom said:
Why is there a need for anything to do with t shirts? If the useful part of it is a size why not call it a size?
What like feet and inches? Kilos? Perhaps European shoe size?

It’s S,M,L,XL


Edited by wormus on Thursday 11th July 19:04
You say it as if T shirt makes sense!

Why not jumpers, coats or gloves?

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

104 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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SAS Tom said:
You say it as if T shirt makes sense!

Why not jumpers, coats or gloves?
I know, utter idiocy. Just ask the scale of the issue with reasonable options.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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SAS Tom said:
You say it as if T shirt makes sense!

Why not jumpers, coats or gloves?
We do...in winter

g3org3y

20,666 posts

192 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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wormus said:
Most of the Management speak sniggering on here seems to be born of ignorance from minion types.
Sounds more like st chat from people who are desperate to sound clever/important.

smn159

12,780 posts

218 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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I refuse to believe that any person of sound mind can ask another to 'T-Shirt' a problem with a straight face

Dixy

2,936 posts

206 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Is it like T bagging.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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g3org3y said:
Sounds more like st chat from people who are desperate to sound clever/important.
Nothing wrong with being clever and important. Somebody’s got to lead.

Blue Oval84

5,277 posts

162 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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wormus said:
T-shirt sizing is something that’s been widely used in Agile product delivery for decades. Just gives a team a way of comparing the difficulty of doing something. When used with the “cost of delay” of not doing it, you have a scale for prioritising the easiest; highest return things first.

Most of the Management speak sniggering on here seems to be born of ignorance from minion types.
Literally heard this for the first time today at work. Managed to figure it out based on the context it was being used in, but have to say it surprised me a little.