Misfits, Dad's Army Types et al...

Misfits, Dad's Army Types et al...

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anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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had ham said:
OpulentBob said:
Yep, a dhobi is an open-air laundry in India. Dhobi Ghat etc. Impressive places. (sorry going well OT now)

yes see previous page......
boxedin Oops, sorry

yellowjack

17,080 posts

167 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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The Mad Monk said:
BrundanBianchi said:
silverfoxcc said:
I know i can wear them on the right side but is it permissable for my Cub grandson to do so at any future Rememberance day parades?
Yep, no problem with that at all.
Can anybody wear anybody's medals at a parade on the right hand side?
Officially, the answer is 'No'. But many people wear a deceased relative's medals.

Although they are not 'The Law' on medal wearing, this is from the Royal British legion website...

RBL medal wearing guide said:
The medals awarded to a deceased service / ex-service person may be worn on the right breast by a near relative.* Not more than one group should be worn by any individual.

(*Near relative is Mother, Father, Sister, Brother, Wife, Husband, Daughter, Son or Grandchild.)
...and...

RBL medal wearing guide also said:
Can I wear family medals?

THE OFFICIAL VIEW
The official position is that they should not be worn. But, soon after the Great War, it was generally accepted that widows of the fallen wore their late husband's medals on the right breast on suitable occasions. More recently, it has become the custom for any family member to wear medals of deceased relations in this way. Sometimes family members try to give a complete family military history by wearing several groups.

Although understandable, it is officially incorrect. When several groups are worn, it does little for the dignity of the original owners.

THE LEGION'S VIEW
The Legion takes a pragmatic view, and our Ceremonial Rules state:

'The official rules for wearing medals allow only official awards to be worn. Unofficial purchased medals and foreign medals which do not have the Sovereign's permission to be worn are not allowed. Standard Bearers, Parade Marshals and other officials on Legion duty are bound by this ruling, and unofficial medals must not be worn when on Legion duty. The medals awarded to a deceased Service / ex-Service person may be worn on the right breast by a near relative (mother, father, sister, brother, wife, husband, daughter or son). Not more than one group should be worn by any individual'.
(From: https://support.britishlegion.org.uk/app/answers/d... )


The official line from Her Majesty's Government is here... https://www.gov.uk/guidance/medals-campaigns-descr... ...(also a useful photographic medal/ribbon ID source)
an extract from the Gov dot UK guide said:
Wearing of medals
You should only wear official decorations, medals or emblems that you are entitled to and have been approved for acceptance and wear. Unofficial medals should not be worn with official orders, decorations and medals.

If you are the next of kin of a deceased service person, it is common practice to wear your relative’s decorations and medals as a mark of remembrance. It is custom to wear medals on the right breast in civilian dress only, official approval is not required to wear relative’s medals.

Current serving personnel should not wear relative’s medals or unofficial medals whilst wearing uniform.

Ensure that your replica and miniature medals are bought from an officially licensed replica medal manufacturer. The merchandise licensing programme generates much needed revenue for our Armed Forces welfare funds that supports Serving and Ex-Serving members of the Armed Forces and their families.

If you suspect any replica and miniature medals are unlicensed please report to DIPR-Enforcement@mod.gov.uk

Unofficial medals
You can buy unofficial medals from private medal companies or dealers. Unofficial medals are medals that have not been instituted by a monarch.

Popular examples of unofficial medals are:

Allied Prisoners of War Medal

National Service Medal

British Army of the Rhine Medal (BAOR)

These medals are not issued by the MOD Medal Office.
The answer to any "order of wear" questions should be answered here... https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/62529/su... ...just click on the 'next page' arrow at the top to see the full details.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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OpulentBob said:
boxedin Oops, sorry
hehe OT (again) - but I seem to remember offering some advice to you ahead of a visit to Mumbai a few years back, so I'm assuming you took that pic during your visit? Crazy place...

LeadFarmer

7,411 posts

132 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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Do these ****ers count?


anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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LeadFarmer said:
Do these ****ers count?
No. As you can clearly see he is a mounted Polite Officer (can’t see rank), it is his job to ensure politeness in society is upheld at all times. His remit is courtesy and manners, consideration and respect. Don’t judge until you’ve spent a few weeks doing his job.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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I had a weird walting experience many years ago.

I was a new young pilot in my airline and was flying with a great old captain I really liked for a few days in a row.

We’d had some work rule come in about people wearing non uniform badges on their uniform, I can’t remember the details but we decided that as non conformists we’d wear all our awards on our uniform we could find, because the rule only specified certain badges or something.

I turned up with a swimming badge and some other school badges and my captain had all sorts from his time in the RAF and the masons and some train stuff etc.

When we got to the departure lounge a bloke jumped up angrily and shouted “excuse me” we stopped and he started banging on about one of the captains badges which was apparently a mini version of an RAF bravery medal. I didn’t really know what it was but the bloke was really angry about it.

He asked the captain why he was wearing it suggesting it wasn’t his or he hadn’t earned it or similar. Then the captain who was a lovely guy explained how he earned it, which was some awesome story about saving a jet after his mate had ejected or something similar. It was even more awkward when the accuser discovered that we were flying him on his holiday. His wife was very embarrassed. There was lots of people in the lounge witnessing it all.

After the flight me and the captain were saying bye to everyone as they disembarked and the accuser (and his wife) came up and the bloke apologised to the captain for trying to expose him.

We invited the bloke up to the flightdeck and gave him a tour and all was great, he was asking loads of questions and pointed to one blank area on the center pedestal where there was a space (i think something had been removed) and he asked what it was

As it looked a bit like a tray, I jokingly said it was for tips. As the bloke left the aircraft he gave £10 to one of the stewardesses and said it was “for the pilots” hehe


anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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El stovey said:
I had a weird walting experience many years ago.

I was a new young pilot in my airline and was flying with a great old captain I really liked for a few days in a row.

We’d had some work rule come in about people wearing non uniform badges on their uniform, I can’t remember the details but we decided that as non conformists we’d wear all our awards on our uniform we could find, because the rule only specified certain badges or something.

I turned up with a swimming badge and some other school badges and my captain had all sorts from his time in the RAF and the masons and some train stuff etc.

When we got to the departure lounge a bloke jumped up angrily and shouted “excuse me” we stopped and he started banging on about one of the captains badges which was apparently a mini version of an RAF bravery medal. I didn’t really know what it was but the bloke was really angry about it.

He asked the captain why he was wearing it suggesting it wasn’t his or he hadn’t earned it or similar. Then the captain who was a lovely guy explained how he earned it, which was some awesome story about saving a jet after his mate had ejected or something similar. It was even more awkward when the accuser discovered that we were flying him on his holiday. His wife was very embarrassed. There was lots of people in the lounge witnessing it all.

After the flight me and the captain were saying bye to everyone as they disembarked and the accuser (and his wife) came up and the bloke apologised to the captain for trying to expose him.

We invited the bloke up to the flightdeck and gave him a tour and all was great, he was asking loads of questions and pointed to one blank area on the center pedestal where there was a space (i think something had been removed) and he asked what it was

As it looked a bit like a tray, I jokingly said it was for tips. As the bloke left the aircraft he gave £10 to one of the stewardesses and said it was “for the pilots” hehe
Ah yes, the RAF bravery medal, awarded to those who accept a 3* hotel instead of the de facto 4/5*. BZ all round!

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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pablo said:
Ah yes, the RAF bravery medal, awarded to those who accept a 3* hotel instead of the de facto 4/5*. BZ all round!
Why dig in when you can check in?

DRFC1879

3,437 posts

158 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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Starfighter said:
All this "military" stuff is fine but Cubs is where the real action happened. You weren't there man, you weren't there....

[Paul Hardcastle]
In 1987 Cubs seemed like just another youth group, but it wasn't
It was different in many ways, as so were those that did the Leading
In CCF the average age of the combat soldier sixteen
In Cubs he was nine
In inininininin Cubs he was nine

In inininininin Cubs, he was nine
In Cubs, he was nine
N-n-n-n-nine

The heaviest playing of the past two weeks
Continued today twenty-five yards northwest of the Scout Hut

I really wasn't sure what was going on
N-n-n-n-nine, nine
N-nine, nine

In Cubs the Leader typically served a twelve-month tour of duty
But was exposed to Smarties almost every day
N-n-n-n-nine
(N-n-n-n-nine) nine

In Summer Camp a Jungle Book spokesman said today
More than seven hundred other pack’s Cubs were caught last week
In that sensitive hide and seek area
In all of Summer Camp
The Leaders lost a total of two thousand six hundred eighty-nine Cubs

All those who remember the Cubs
They won't forget what they've seen
Destruction by kids in their prime
Whose average age was nine

D-d-d-d-d-destruction
D-d-d-d-d-destruction

According to a World Scouting study
Half of the Cub Leaders suffered From what psychiatrists call
Post-traumatic stress disorder
Many vets complain of alienation, rage, or guilt
Some succumb to suicidal thoughts

Eight to ten years after coming home
Almost eight-hundred-thousand Leaders
Are still fighting the Cub Pack
None of them received a hero's welcome

Nine
S-S-S-S-Scouting
Nine, n-n-n-n-n-nine
N-n-n-n-n-nine
Nine n-n-n-n-n-nine
N-n-n-n-n-nine, nine

Fire Badge, Woggle

[/Paul Hardcastle]
This didn't get the recognition it deserved. Nice work, SF

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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DRFC1879 said:
Starfighter said:
All this "military" stuff is fine but Cubs is where the real action happened. You weren't there man, you weren't there....

[Paul Hardcastle]
In 1987 Cubs seemed like just another youth group, but it wasn't
It was different in many ways, as so were those that did the Leading
In CCF the average age of the combat soldier sixteen
In Cubs he was nine
In inininininin Cubs he was nine

In inininininin Cubs, he was nine
In Cubs, he was nine
N-n-n-n-nine

The heaviest playing of the past two weeks
Continued today twenty-five yards northwest of the Scout Hut

I really wasn't sure what was going on
N-n-n-n-nine, nine
N-nine, nine

In Cubs the Leader typically served a twelve-month tour of duty
But was exposed to Smarties almost every day
N-n-n-n-nine
(N-n-n-n-nine) nine

In Summer Camp a Jungle Book spokesman said today
More than seven hundred other pack’s Cubs were caught last week
In that sensitive hide and seek area
In all of Summer Camp
The Leaders lost a total of two thousand six hundred eighty-nine Cubs

All those who remember the Cubs
They won't forget what they've seen
Destruction by kids in their prime
Whose average age was nine

D-d-d-d-d-destruction
D-d-d-d-d-destruction

According to a World Scouting study
Half of the Cub Leaders suffered From what psychiatrists call
Post-traumatic stress disorder
Many vets complain of alienation, rage, or guilt
Some succumb to suicidal thoughts

Eight to ten years after coming home
Almost eight-hundred-thousand Leaders
Are still fighting the Cub Pack
None of them received a hero's welcome

Nine
S-S-S-S-Scouting
Nine, n-n-n-n-n-nine
N-n-n-n-n-nine
Nine n-n-n-n-n-nine
N-n-n-n-n-nine, nine

Fire Badge, Woggle

[/Paul Hardcastle]
This didn't get the recognition it deserved. Nice work, SF
Agreed
beer

Halmyre

11,211 posts

140 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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One thing I noticed in the Gazette, and in fact an ex-forces colleague at work has one, is that the armed forces dishes out MBEs and OBEs, etc. Are they for anything specific?

Psycho Warren

3,087 posts

114 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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pablo said:
Ah yes, the RAF bravery medal, awarded to those who accept a 3* hotel instead of the de facto 4/5*. BZ all round!
We used to refer to the "Crabs" as civilians in uniform.

I think all the services like to bash the RAF

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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pablo said:
LeadFarmer said:
Do these ****ers count?
No. As you can clearly see he is a mounted Polite Officer (can’t see rank), it is his job to ensure politeness in society is upheld at all times. His remit is courtesy and manners, consideration and respect. Don’t judge until you’ve spent a few weeks doing his job.
They count...how much of their fine they've paid off...

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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We have a walt on the most genteel thread on all PH!

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Starts with pics of "his" SLR and gullwing SL300 that turn out to be robbed off the internet, which is sad because the man had a long flowing beard about all things old Merc.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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Psycho Warren said:
pablo said:
Ah yes, the RAF bravery medal, awarded to those who accept a 3* hotel instead of the de facto 4/5*. BZ all round!
We used to refer to the "Crabs" as civilians in uniform.

I think all the services like to bash the RAF
....until they need a casevac out of Sangin.;)
Still, maybe it’s an envy thing....yer know, living in damp tents or stuck on a ship with 499 other men. Can’t be easy, bit like choosing which curry house to “debrief” at after a hard day’s telling the army the cloud base is below limits so they’ll have to walk....or tab or yomp or whatever they call it.

Don1

15,951 posts

209 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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Crossflow Kid said:
....until they need a casevac out of Sangin.;)
Still, maybe it’s an envy thing....yer know, living in damp tents or stuck on a ship with 499 other men. Can’t be easy, bit like choosing which curry house to “debrief” at after a hard day’s telling the army the cloud base is below limits so they’ll have to walk....or tab or yomp or whatever they call it.
Jealousy is a green colour. No need for so much camo cream.

limpsfield

5,887 posts

254 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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stickleback123 said:
We have a walt on the most genteel thread on all PH!

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Starts with pics of "his" SLR and gullwing SL300 that turn out to be robbed off the internet, which is sad because the man had a long flowing beard about all things old Merc.
Great bit of exposure by Mikedknight

Mikedknight said:
TW124 said:
Mikedknight said:
Wow, I'm glad you found your camera! That gullwing is amazing, did your Grandad have that car a long time? What a car!
From new he had it, then my dad had it whilst he bought something else, then gave it back to grandad who retired, drove it round europe for 12 months then stopped driving due to a health problem. When he died, I took the car on. Used it for very special occassions because I was scared of it being damaged, so I drove it to Spain and left it there in a building I own.

SLR
I’ve never understood why people do this, you obviously have a keen interest in knackered old mercs like the rest of us. You clearly do own at least one w124. Why bother with making other stuff up.

Unless your Grandad was in Maroon 5 in which case I apologise.


jdw100

4,126 posts

165 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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Crossflow Kid said:
DRFC1879 said:
Starfighter said:
All this "military" stuff is fine but Cubs is where the real action happened. You weren't there man, you weren't there....

[Paul Hardcastle]
In 1987 Cubs seemed like just another youth group, but it wasn't
It was different in many ways, as so were those that did the Leading
In CCF the average age of the combat soldier sixteen
In Cubs he was nine
In inininininin Cubs he was nine

In inininininin Cubs, he was nine
In Cubs, he was nine
N-n-n-n-nine

The heaviest playing of the past two weeks
Continued today twenty-five yards northwest of the Scout Hut

I really wasn't sure what was going on
N-n-n-n-nine, nine
N-nine, nine

In Cubs the Leader typically served a twelve-month tour of duty
But was exposed to Smarties almost every day
N-n-n-n-nine
(N-n-n-n-nine) nine

In Summer Camp a Jungle Book spokesman said today
More than seven hundred other pack’s Cubs were caught last week
In that sensitive hide and seek area
In all of Summer Camp
The Leaders lost a total of two thousand six hundred eighty-nine Cubs

All those who remember the Cubs
They won't forget what they've seen
Destruction by kids in their prime
Whose average age was nine

D-d-d-d-d-destruction
D-d-d-d-d-destruction

According to a World Scouting study
Half of the Cub Leaders suffered From what psychiatrists call
Post-traumatic stress disorder
Many vets complain of alienation, rage, or guilt
Some succumb to suicidal thoughts

Eight to ten years after coming home
Almost eight-hundred-thousand Leaders
Are still fighting the Cub Pack
None of them received a hero's welcome

Nine
S-S-S-S-Scouting
Nine, n-n-n-n-n-nine
N-n-n-n-n-nine
Nine n-n-n-n-n-nine
N-n-n-n-n-nine, nine

Fire Badge, Woggle

[/Paul Hardcastle]
This didn't get the recognition it deserved. Nice work, SF
Agreed
beer
I was going to make a comment yesterday but the lyrics brought back too many memories.




jdw100

4,126 posts

165 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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pablo said:
LeadFarmer said:
Do these ****ers count?
No. As you can clearly see he is a mounted Polite Officer (can’t see rank), it is his job to ensure politeness in society is upheld at all times. His remit is courtesy and manners, consideration and respect. Don’t judge until you’ve spent a few weeks doing his job.
They ride escort for 4x4 Response units on the way to a MAJOR EVENT.




Riley Blue

20,984 posts

227 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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limpsfield said:
stickleback123 said:
We have a walt on the most genteel thread on all PH!

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Starts with pics of "his" SLR and gullwing SL300 that turn out to be robbed off the internet, which is sad because the man had a long flowing beard about all things old Merc.
Great bit of exposure by Mikedknight

Mikedknight said:
TW124 said:
Mikedknight said:
Wow, I'm glad you found your camera! That gullwing is amazing, did your Grandad have that car a long time? What a car!
From new he had it, then my dad had it whilst he bought something else, then gave it back to grandad who retired, drove it round europe for 12 months then stopped driving due to a health problem. When he died, I took the car on. Used it for very special occassions because I was scared of it being damaged, so I drove it to Spain and left it there in a building I own.

SLR
I’ve never understood why people do this, you obviously have a keen interest in knackered old mercs like the rest of us. You clearly do own at least one w124. Why bother with making other stuff up.

Unless your Grandad was in Maroon 5 in which case I apologise.


Some bold claims in TW124's first ever PH post:

"My 1st post here and I've seen a lot of brilliant threads and follow many too.

V8

TVR 350/400, I worked at the factory in the late 80's in Blackpool and test drove almost all the cars. They in my eye as well as factory spec MERCS were the best factory spec V8's around.

After that, I've owned loads of cars, loads of V8's. Quite boring things until you hit the mercs and the AMG's. I've got 57 mercs at now but the 55AMG SL sounds proper brilliant. A growl for sure and that's compared to 63&65's in my collections.

I dont give care about much else especially ferrari V8 of which I have owned almost all of them since the early 70's. Beautiful cars they were. Enzo was a friend too, but the golden triangle was in that era a beautiful evolvement in car history.

They sound nothing like an AMG really in day to day mode.

Nowadays, I just prefer the laid back S124 Mercedes with a couple of old cheeky cars to the side.

One day soon, I shall compose a thread of the sincerely wonderful vehicles I do own now as well as recent disposals. Mainly Mercedes-Benz."