Misfits, Dad's Army Types et al...
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BossHogg said:
Or when they addressed me as Sarge, they were politely informed (well bellowed at!) There are only 3 types of sarge, sausarge, massarge and passarge, now feck off before I massarge my sausarge up your passarge you 'orrible little man - now get away!!! 
hahahaha I have heard that exact same phrase from a booty Sergeant. The same guy did all our parade drill and he had some great one liners. Mostly totally non-pc. When you f
ked up on guard training, he made you do a nasty drill of holding the rifle across your body at shoulder height until you were in agony. At the time, we had a women in the college under training who had massive tits and was very pretty. He would refer to her as "face of an angel, tits of a we" and then to motivate us during the drill he would comment something like "if she was here she could do this with no hands" etc. Couldnt get away with that nowadays I am sure!!Not really a walt per say, but plastic police comes to mind, Community Safety.
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98elise said:
It's an oddity of the forces that you can join as a Commissioned Officer and be managing people with decades of experience and seniority.
I think, in my opinion, part of being (or at least aspiring to be) a good officer was recognising this and using and trusting the wealth and experience of your Senior NCO's and senior lower ranks too (although the 15 year AB is not so common these days), to help you make better decisions and lead your team better. Although in many bigger companies you have similar where higher management are in essence lacking the skills and experience that the supervisors or low level managers have - especially in technical trades or hands on experience.
The bit i found comedy was as a divisional officer in my twenties having to try and give marital advise and help advise on other more complex family and personal issues when I have little life experience of my own and only a week long training course -of which one day covered counselling type stuff - to give decent advice. You have to accept you can only advise so much and either seek advice from those more experienced, or signpost the guy to someone who can give proper advice.
Psycho Warren said:
98elise said:
It's an oddity of the forces that you can join as a Commissioned Officer and be managing people with decades of experience and seniority.
I think, in my opinion, part of being (or at least aspiring to be) a good officer was recognising this and using and trusting the wealth and experience of your Senior NCO's and senior lower ranks too (although the 15 year AB is not so common these days), to help you make better decisions and lead your team better. Although in many bigger companies you have similar where higher management are in essence lacking the skills and experience that the supervisors or low level managers have - especially in technical trades or hands on experience.
The bit i found comedy was as a divisional officer in my twenties having to try and give marital advise and help advise on other more complex family and personal issues when I have little life experience of my own and only a week long training course -of which one day covered counselling type stuff - to give decent advice. You have to accept you can only advise so much and either seek advice from those more experienced, or signpost the guy to someone who can give proper advice.
The military do still need pretty rigid hierarchy's given what they can be asked to do, but things have moved on from WW1 where other ranks were not allowed to talk to officers
BossHogg said:
I used to love it as a junior NCO when a senior NCO tried to order me around, they were politely informed, with all due respect, please do not confuse your rank with my authority. 
Surely a senior NCO would be shown deference by a junior NCO?Or did you mean to have a CO in there somewhere?
BossHogg said:
I was Royal Military Police, I was acting on behalf of the Provost Marshal - a Brigadier. If I was obstructed in the course of my duty by a SNCO acting the prat, they were politely and respectfully informed not to, hence my statement.
hahaha, i bet you loved being hated by lots of people. I think you guys got a lot more animosity than you deserved. still it was fun to wind up the np's in my day. the local town was a good few miles from base so it was great fun to annoy the meat wagon by overtaking at high speed shaking the van. although a couple of times they phoned ahead and got the base guards to stop the car until they caught up.
people used to do similar to the MOD plod landrover. i did it a few times and made it rock like f
k to much amusement. however one time they recognised the car and radiod ahead to blockade the roundabout by the gate to cstch me. they gave me a speeding ticket for it but it got cancelled by the local force on a technicality. I didn't get that much grief, I was firm but fair, if squaddies played ball, they were treated as adults, but if they acted up, they were bounced so hard their feet didn't touch. I had thick skin it didn't faze me, being the grandson of Irish immigrants, there wasn't anything they could call me that hadn't already been said before.
Psycho Warren said:
RizzoTheRat said:
Generally not a problem for officers in guards regiments though as they all tend to have double barreled surnames
Is it still the case the officers in guards regiments have to be "independently wealthy" to afford the Mess Bill in the officers mess? Or was that just a wind up?It was always funny how the services viewed each other. Navy and RAF would look at sandhurst and think they were all stuck up toffs. Everyone would look at the RAF officers as basically civilians in uniform.
Then the universal held belief in the ranks of all the services that all officers are
s. lol. I was at RMAS 1997-1998 and my best friend (who I met on my RCB) commissioned into the Irish Guards. I grew up on a council estate in Essex and commissioned into a county infantry regiment.
I was always welcomed to his regimental events; no one ever was anything other than friendly; but I didn’t really have a lot in common with any of them and I don’t think I’d have enjoyed living in that mess. Round pegs, round holes.
About 40% of my intake were either ex-private soldiers or like me, state school. It wasn’t like people expect.
As an aside, on the last night of your commissioning board there’s a dine in night, to make sure you don’t start dropping the c bomb after a glass of sherry. Arthur offered me a drink and I asked for a JD and coke. He came back over with whiskey, and a glass of water, and explained with exquisite courtesy “that some chap has gone to an awful lot of trouble to blend that drink for me, and it would be jolly rude to pollute it with a cola.”
That’s the Guards for you!
Gareth79 said:
Johnspex said:
Spare tyre said:
I feel I'm missing something. Isn't that illegal?
Lights? Technically not legal if they are flashing lights, although an amber one might be ok with some officers. When I had one I had a circuit breaker under the bonnet which I wired everything through, to prevent against accidentally turning it on. It's still deemed fitted by law, but is enough to satisfy most officers, although a few people have still be prosecuted.
Bullbars: I think they are legal to fit, but not sell in the UK unless e-marked?
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