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[LeadFarmer]

Red9zero said:

LeadFarmer said:

Actually, quite a few of the Advanced riders themselves were definitely Walt, arguing with each other over legislation, and whether 'that' overtake that Alan did last Saturday was safe or not. It did get quite heated at times. When I passed I got my certificate and, in the words of a 1980's News of The World undercover reporter who had just exposed a secret high class prostitution ring and had been offered sex - I made my excuses and left.

Edited by LeadFarmer on Monday 18th April 18:32

I found the IAM the same. Far too Walty for my liking.

To be honest I wasn't even chasing the 'pass' certificate, I just wanted to know if I was a safe rider, and if I could be safer. But after I'd had a few lessons and got to know my observer who was a decent bloke, I felt I ought to do the test and try to pass out of respect to him so he didn't think I'd wasted his time, and I think they take pride in getting people through the test. Thankfully I passed, but by then I'd already got all the information I needed. Had I failed I probably wouldn't have bothered hanging around for the retest.

[Red9zero]

LeadFarmer said:

To be honest I wasn't even chasing the 'pass' certificate, I just wanted to know if I was a safe rider, and if I could be safer. But after I'd had a few lessons and got to know my observer who was a decent bloke, I felt I ought to do the test and try to pass out of respect to him so he didn't think I'd wasted his time, and I think they take pride in getting people through the test. Thankfully I passed, but by then I'd already got all the information I needed. Had I failed I probably wouldn't have bothered hanging around for the retest.

I did mine to prove to my wife I'm a better driver than her She failed her driving test first time. I passed my car, bike and IAM first time

[Dibble]

Drumroll said:

Dibble said:

After doing a bit of digging, apart from some construction and use offences, it’s not actually illegal to impersonate a paramedic. The next best thing I could find was an offence under section 10 of the Health and Social Care Act 2008, which relates to failing to register as a provider with CQC.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2008/14/secti...

You should have dug deeper. The title Paramedic is protected in law. So you can't legally rock up at an event and call yourself a Paramedic (if you are not one).

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/incorpo...

That relates to the use of the word paramedic in a company name. There’s no specific offence of impersonating a paramedic as there is for impersonating a police officer. I’m pretty confident the rather extensive contact I’ve had with our legal services department, CPS lawyers, HCPC, CQC and the local NHS ambulance trust would have identified if there was.

[Drumroll]

Dibble said:

That relates to the use of the word paramedic in a company name. There’s no specific offence of impersonating a paramedic as there is for impersonating a police officer. I’m pretty confident the rather extensive contact I’ve had with our legal services department, CPS lawyers, HCPC, CQC and the local NHS ambulance trust would have identified if there was.

We will have to agree to disagree then.

[5s Alive]

Red9zero said:

Just saw this on Facebook. Acceptable Walting I think

Fantastic! Thunderbird 4 I believe.

[Dibble]

Drumroll said:

Dibble said:

That relates to the use of the word paramedic in a company name. There’s no specific offence of impersonating a paramedic as there is for impersonating a police officer. I’m pretty confident the rather extensive contact I’ve had with our legal services department, CPS lawyers, HCPC, CQC and the local NHS ambulance trust would have identified if there was.

We will have to agree to disagree then.

If you can point me towards actual legislation for an equivalent offence of “impersonating a paramedic” I’m all ears.

[Drumroll]

Dibble said:

Drumroll said:

Dibble said:

That relates to the use of the word paramedic in a company name. There’s no specific offence of impersonating a paramedic as there is for impersonating a police officer. I’m pretty confident the rather extensive contact I’ve had with our legal services department, CPS lawyers, HCPC, CQC and the local NHS ambulance trust would have identified if there was.

We will have to agree to disagree then.

If you can point me towards actual legislation for an equivalent offence of “impersonating a paramedic” I’m all ears.

https://hcpcdefencebarristers.co.uk/protected-titles/

[Dibble]

Drumroll said:

Dibble said:

Drumroll said:

Dibble said:

That relates to the use of the word paramedic in a company name. There’s no specific offence of impersonating a paramedic as there is for impersonating a police officer. I’m pretty confident the rather extensive contact I’ve had with our legal services department, CPS lawyers, HCPC, CQC and the local NHS ambulance trust would have identified if there was.

We will have to agree to disagree then.

If you can point me towards actual legislation for an equivalent offence of “impersonating a paramedic” I’m all ears.

https://hcpcdefencebarristers.co.uk/protected-titles/

If the guy from a few pages back isn’t saying he’s a paramedic (which he isn’t, AFAICS), he doesn’t commit an offence. If someone was driving round in an equivalent looking police vehicle, wearing what looked like a police uniform, there’s a specific offence of impersonating a police officer. There’s no equivalent offence of impersonating a paramedic, unless he’s actually using the title and even then, that is a regulatory offence which would be dealt with by the HCPC, who wouldn’t have any powers to strike him off, if he isn’t registered.

He may commit construction and use offences regarding lights/markings, insurance offences depending on what he is covered for and what he said when taking out a policy, or fraud by false representation by claiming he’s collecting to cover costs then keeping the money (if he is), but theres no “impersonating a paramedic” offence (other than the use of a protected title if it’s in a company name). As I say, if you can point me at legislation saying there is, I’ll happily eat a big portion of humble pie.

The link you’ve provided to hcpc barristers isn’t legislation and as they can’t spell (breech vs breach) I’d take anything from that site with a big pinch of salt.

[Paul Dishman]

Dibble said:

That relates to the use of the word paramedic in a company name. There’s no specific offence of impersonating a paramedic as there is for impersonating a police officer. I’m pretty confident the rather extensive contact I’ve had with our legal services department, CPS lawyers, HCPC, CQC and the local NHS ambulance trust would have identified if there was.

Mr Minion had “Medic” on his “uniform” . He claimed to be a senior first aider, alongside his event safety management and park-clearing activities

[Robotron70]

Paul Dishman said:

Mr Minion had “Medic” on his “uniform” . He claimed to be a senior first aider, alongside his event safety management and park-clearing activities

What happened to him? He blocked me.

[Dibble]

Paul Dishman said:

Dibble said:

That relates to the use of the word paramedic in a company name. There’s no specific offence of impersonating a paramedic as there is for impersonating a police officer. I’m pretty confident the rather extensive contact I’ve had with our legal services department, CPS lawyers, HCPC, CQC and the local NHS ambulance trust would have identified if there was.

Mr Minion had “Medic” on his “uniform” . He claimed to be a senior first aider, alongside his event safety management and park-clearing activities

“Medic” and “first aider” (of any rank/seniority) aren’t protected titles, unfortunately. As above, there may be other offences around construction and use relating to livery/lights, insurance or fraud, but there isn’t a specific equivalent (criminal) offence of impersonating a paramedic as there is impersonating a police officer. I’d be delighted to be wrong if anyone can point me at actual legislation, but so far I’ve drawn a blank (and all the healthcare regulatory bodies have told me the same as well).

[BossHogg]

It's strange that there appears to be no offence of impersonating a paramedic, yet there is an offence of impersonating a Highways Traffic Officer - Traffic Management Act 2004, section 10 subsection 3 states:
A person who, with intent to deceive —
(a)impersonates a traffic officer,
(b)makes any statement or does any act calculated falsely to suggest that he is a traffic officer, or
(c)makes any statement or does any act calculated falsely to suggest that he has powers as a traffic officer that exceed the powers he actually has,is guilty of an offence and liable, on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 51 weeks or to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale (or both).

[Dibble]

BossHogg said:

It's strange that there appears to be no offence of impersonating a paramedic, yet there is an offence of impersonating a Highways Traffic Officer - Traffic Management Act 2004, section 10 subsection 3

I know. It’s bizarre, as arguably a fake paramedic could do a lot more harm than a fake police officer.

Paramedics were included in the recent legislation of assaulting an emergency services worker (rightly so).

[BossHogg]

Yep, paramedics are classed as emergency service workers, we're fair game to kick lumps out of, which is why we now wear body worn cameras. I'm not classed as an emergency service worker in the day job, but I am in my voluntary role as a CFR.

[LeadFarmer]

Robotron70 said:

What happened to him? He blocked me.

He blocked anyone who tried to follow him. To view his tweets I had to first log out of twitter. Not sure if his account is still active.

[jdw100]

pablo said:

Gareth79 said:

Triumph Man said:

Never knew of the existence of this until recently, but with a few stickers and flashy lights it would be a great Walt command centre

Does it come with the massive flag pole on the bonnet?

We took the cubs to the fire station recently as part of their “fire safety “ badge, Avon Fire Brigade have this awesome bit of kit



A mobile command centre for really big fires requiring five plus engines. Some details here it’s basically an office on wheels but I was very excited about it. The cubs just wanted to play with the hoses.

I’ve been looking at this photo for a while.

I can understand it might need a lot of power for using all its comms equipment etc.

But five engines?

One at the front for driving it, one in rear for power generation…but where do the other three fit?

Seems excessive?

[hidetheelephants]

jdw100 said:

I’ve been looking at this photo for a while.

I can understand it might need a lot of power for using all its comms equipment etc.

But five engines?

One at the front for driving it, one in rear for power generation…but where do the other three fit?

Seems excessive?

5 fire engines responding to a very large fire I would assume?

[Dr Jekyll]

pablo said:

A mobile command centre for really big fires requiring five plus engines. Some details here it’s basically an office on wheels but I was very excited about it. The cubs just wanted to play with the hoses.

Why is the 'project overview on the website in what appears to be ancient Latin?

Website said:

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Edited by Dr Jekyll on Tuesday 19th April 07:05

[Ouroboros]

Five engines to keep them warm.

[The Mad Monk]

Dr Jekyll said:

pablo said:

A mobile command centre for really big fires requiring five plus engines. Some details here it’s basically an office on wheels but I was very excited about it. The cubs just wanted to play with the hoses.

Why is the 'project overview on the website in what appears to be ancient Latin?

Website said:

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Edited by Dr Jekyll on Tuesday 19th April 07:05

It's jibberish (gibberish?)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorem_ipsum