Travellers.......
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There is a plot of greenbelt that a traveller family moved onto close to us, exactly the same as that Liverpool Echo case. Everyone objected apart from the planners who wanted an easy life. The reasons given were similar family life, schooling, medical. Nobody made the fuss that they have in Liverpool and they now have temporary PP for a number of years.
scruffy 
s alienate a country and they aren't the ones at fault
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6609251/P...
s alienate a country and they aren't the ones at faulthttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6609251/P...
I'm currently lost in a Facebook wormhole of Travellers profiles - one of my vehicles has ended up with one of them, and I'm collating some information for a rather brave repo guy...
Any ideas why so many of them " X " in their social media names? Such as Connor X Connors, Mikey X Joyce etc?
There's thousands of them!
Any ideas why so many of them " X " in their social media names? Such as Connor X Connors, Mikey X Joyce etc?
There's thousands of them!
Had this through the door today from the local rozzers
I went online to copy and paste the communication here:
WORKING FOR A HEALTHY GYPSY, TRAVELLER
AND ROMA RELATIONSHIP
Even in today’s enlightened society, it’s a fact there is
a large ethnic group still experiencing widespread racism and discrimination: Gypsy, Traveller and Roma (GRT) communities. So, what is our local police force doing to help?
The National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC) has set a three-pronged local policing objective to enhance engagement with GRT communities by: encouraging a common and consistent approach to unauthorised encampments across forces; increasing representation within the workforce; and building confidence with communities to report incidents of hate crime.
Working group
Hampshire Constabulary's GRT Working Group (GRTWG) was established two years ago and works to address identified gaps in fulfilling this objective. Led by Chief Inspector Rob Mitchell, the group aims to ensure that the constabulary develops and maintains a healthy relationship with GRT communities in the way the policing service is provided, as prescribed by the Equality Act 2010. The Act states that a public authority must,
in the exercise of its functions, have due regard to the need to:
• Eliminate discrimination, harassment, victimisation and any other conduct that is prohibited by or under this Act
• Advance equality of opportunity between persons who share a relevant protected characteristic and persons who do not share it
12
• Foster good relations between persons who share a relevant protected characteristic and persons who do not share it
The GRTWG focuses on four areas: neighbourhood engagement; unauthorised encampments; workforce representation; and building confidence to encourage the reporting of hate crime/ incidents by GRT communities.
So, the group is not only outward looking. It also examines how the constabulary recruits and look after its own staff
who belong to, or identify with, the GRT communities. Best practice and learning from around the country is incorporated into the training and operational deployment of staff, and the group aims to ensure that Hampshire Constabulary is a fully inclusive police service.
Obstacle
Traveller-related issues regularly make the news across the country, often because of unauthorised encampments being set up in particular areas. Unauthorised encampments can prove to be the single most challenging obstacle to settled and nomadic communities developing better relations.
Hampshire Constabulary has an established and effective procedure
in place that sets out expectations
and standards to provide a level of consistency around decision making by officers when attending unauthorised encampments. Several factors have to
be considered on whether the criteria for police powers of removal are appropriate, legal and proportionate when considering the welfare needs of all parties.
In cases where police powers of removal are not proportionate, local officers will work with land owners to provide
reassurance and monitor any changes
to the original assessment. Any alleged reported crime and anti-social behaviour will still be recorded and dealt with under appropriate legislation and powers.
Operation Quebec, as the procedure
is known, is compliant with the recently published NPCC advice on dealing
with unauthorised encampments. While considering how to manage an unauthorised encampment, it is worth bearing in mind that a lack of suitable accommodation nationally and locally is a major factor.
Key issue
The key issue in respect of unauthorised GRT encampments is the lack of accommodation for the travelling communities. More permanent sites are required across the county and there are currently no allocated transit sites within Hampshire to accommodate nomadic GRT communities.
The shortage of suitable sites for GRT families to live on and access as they move around the country leads to groups setting up unauthorised encampments (and increasingly unauthorised developments where people buy land lawfully and develop it without planning permission) − thus creating the biggest single source of conflict between the travelling and settled communities.
Ultimate aim
The GRTWG is working to address all these areas and reduce incidents of racism and discrimination against the GRT communities.
It won’t happen overnight and the GRTWG is making good progress.
I went online to copy and paste the communication here:
WORKING FOR A HEALTHY GYPSY, TRAVELLER
AND ROMA RELATIONSHIP
Even in today’s enlightened society, it’s a fact there is
a large ethnic group still experiencing widespread racism and discrimination: Gypsy, Traveller and Roma (GRT) communities. So, what is our local police force doing to help?
The National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC) has set a three-pronged local policing objective to enhance engagement with GRT communities by: encouraging a common and consistent approach to unauthorised encampments across forces; increasing representation within the workforce; and building confidence with communities to report incidents of hate crime.
Working group
Hampshire Constabulary's GRT Working Group (GRTWG) was established two years ago and works to address identified gaps in fulfilling this objective. Led by Chief Inspector Rob Mitchell, the group aims to ensure that the constabulary develops and maintains a healthy relationship with GRT communities in the way the policing service is provided, as prescribed by the Equality Act 2010. The Act states that a public authority must,
in the exercise of its functions, have due regard to the need to:
• Eliminate discrimination, harassment, victimisation and any other conduct that is prohibited by or under this Act
• Advance equality of opportunity between persons who share a relevant protected characteristic and persons who do not share it
12
• Foster good relations between persons who share a relevant protected characteristic and persons who do not share it
The GRTWG focuses on four areas: neighbourhood engagement; unauthorised encampments; workforce representation; and building confidence to encourage the reporting of hate crime/ incidents by GRT communities.
So, the group is not only outward looking. It also examines how the constabulary recruits and look after its own staff
who belong to, or identify with, the GRT communities. Best practice and learning from around the country is incorporated into the training and operational deployment of staff, and the group aims to ensure that Hampshire Constabulary is a fully inclusive police service.
Obstacle
Traveller-related issues regularly make the news across the country, often because of unauthorised encampments being set up in particular areas. Unauthorised encampments can prove to be the single most challenging obstacle to settled and nomadic communities developing better relations.
Hampshire Constabulary has an established and effective procedure
in place that sets out expectations
and standards to provide a level of consistency around decision making by officers when attending unauthorised encampments. Several factors have to
be considered on whether the criteria for police powers of removal are appropriate, legal and proportionate when considering the welfare needs of all parties.
In cases where police powers of removal are not proportionate, local officers will work with land owners to provide
reassurance and monitor any changes
to the original assessment. Any alleged reported crime and anti-social behaviour will still be recorded and dealt with under appropriate legislation and powers.
Operation Quebec, as the procedure
is known, is compliant with the recently published NPCC advice on dealing
with unauthorised encampments. While considering how to manage an unauthorised encampment, it is worth bearing in mind that a lack of suitable accommodation nationally and locally is a major factor.
Key issue
The key issue in respect of unauthorised GRT encampments is the lack of accommodation for the travelling communities. More permanent sites are required across the county and there are currently no allocated transit sites within Hampshire to accommodate nomadic GRT communities.
The shortage of suitable sites for GRT families to live on and access as they move around the country leads to groups setting up unauthorised encampments (and increasingly unauthorised developments where people buy land lawfully and develop it without planning permission) − thus creating the biggest single source of conflict between the travelling and settled communities.
Ultimate aim
The GRTWG is working to address all these areas and reduce incidents of racism and discrimination against the GRT communities.
It won’t happen overnight and the GRTWG is making good progress.
Spare tyre said:
Had this through the door today from the local rozzers
I went online to copy and paste the communication here:
WORKING FOR A HEALTHY GYPSY, TRAVELLER
AND ROMA RELATIONSHIP
Even in today’s enlightened society, it’s a fact there is
a large ethnic group still experiencing widespread racism and discrimination: Gypsy, Traveller and Roma (GRT) communities. So, what is our local police force doing to help?
The National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC) has set a three-pronged local policing objective to enhance engagement with GRT communities by: encouraging a common and consistent approach to unauthorised encampments across forces; increasing representation within the workforce; and building confidence with communities to report incidents of hate crime.
Working group
Hampshire Constabulary's GRT Working Group (GRTWG) was established two years ago and works to address identified gaps in fulfilling this objective. Led by Chief Inspector Rob Mitchell, the group aims to ensure that the constabulary develops and maintains a healthy relationship with GRT communities in the way the policing service is provided, as prescribed by the Equality Act 2010. The Act states that a public authority must,
in the exercise of its functions, have due regard to the need to:
• Eliminate discrimination, harassment, victimisation and any other conduct that is prohibited by or under this Act
• Advance equality of opportunity between persons who share a relevant protected characteristic and persons who do not share it
12
• Foster good relations between persons who share a relevant protected characteristic and persons who do not share it
The GRTWG focuses on four areas: neighbourhood engagement; unauthorised encampments; workforce representation; and building confidence to encourage the reporting of hate crime/ incidents by GRT communities.
So, the group is not only outward looking. It also examines how the constabulary recruits and look after its own staff
who belong to, or identify with, the GRT communities. Best practice and learning from around the country is incorporated into the training and operational deployment of staff, and the group aims to ensure that Hampshire Constabulary is a fully inclusive police service.
Obstacle
Traveller-related issues regularly make the news across the country, often because of unauthorised encampments being set up in particular areas. Unauthorised encampments can prove to be the single most challenging obstacle to settled and nomadic communities developing better relations.
Hampshire Constabulary has an established and effective procedure
in place that sets out expectations
and standards to provide a level of consistency around decision making by officers when attending unauthorised encampments. Several factors have to
be considered on whether the criteria for police powers of removal are appropriate, legal and proportionate when considering the welfare needs of all parties.
In cases where police powers of removal are not proportionate, local officers will work with land owners to provide
reassurance and monitor any changes
to the original assessment. Any alleged reported crime and anti-social behaviour will still be recorded and dealt with under appropriate legislation and powers.
Operation Quebec, as the procedure
is known, is compliant with the recently published NPCC advice on dealing
with unauthorised encampments. While considering how to manage an unauthorised encampment, it is worth bearing in mind that a lack of suitable accommodation nationally and locally is a major factor.
Key issue
The key issue in respect of unauthorised GRT encampments is the lack of accommodation for the travelling communities. More permanent sites are required across the county and there are currently no allocated transit sites within Hampshire to accommodate nomadic GRT communities.
The shortage of suitable sites for GRT families to live on and access as they move around the country leads to groups setting up unauthorised encampments (and increasingly unauthorised developments where people buy land lawfully and develop it without planning permission) ? thus creating the biggest single source of conflict between the travelling and settled communities.
Ultimate aim
The GRTWG is working to address all these areas and reduce incidents of racism and discrimination against the GRT communities.
It won’t happen overnight and the GRTWG is making good progress.
Unbelievable....I went online to copy and paste the communication here:
WORKING FOR A HEALTHY GYPSY, TRAVELLER
AND ROMA RELATIONSHIP
Even in today’s enlightened society, it’s a fact there is
a large ethnic group still experiencing widespread racism and discrimination: Gypsy, Traveller and Roma (GRT) communities. So, what is our local police force doing to help?
The National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC) has set a three-pronged local policing objective to enhance engagement with GRT communities by: encouraging a common and consistent approach to unauthorised encampments across forces; increasing representation within the workforce; and building confidence with communities to report incidents of hate crime.
Working group
Hampshire Constabulary's GRT Working Group (GRTWG) was established two years ago and works to address identified gaps in fulfilling this objective. Led by Chief Inspector Rob Mitchell, the group aims to ensure that the constabulary develops and maintains a healthy relationship with GRT communities in the way the policing service is provided, as prescribed by the Equality Act 2010. The Act states that a public authority must,
in the exercise of its functions, have due regard to the need to:
• Eliminate discrimination, harassment, victimisation and any other conduct that is prohibited by or under this Act
• Advance equality of opportunity between persons who share a relevant protected characteristic and persons who do not share it
12
• Foster good relations between persons who share a relevant protected characteristic and persons who do not share it
The GRTWG focuses on four areas: neighbourhood engagement; unauthorised encampments; workforce representation; and building confidence to encourage the reporting of hate crime/ incidents by GRT communities.
So, the group is not only outward looking. It also examines how the constabulary recruits and look after its own staff
who belong to, or identify with, the GRT communities. Best practice and learning from around the country is incorporated into the training and operational deployment of staff, and the group aims to ensure that Hampshire Constabulary is a fully inclusive police service.
Obstacle
Traveller-related issues regularly make the news across the country, often because of unauthorised encampments being set up in particular areas. Unauthorised encampments can prove to be the single most challenging obstacle to settled and nomadic communities developing better relations.
Hampshire Constabulary has an established and effective procedure
in place that sets out expectations
and standards to provide a level of consistency around decision making by officers when attending unauthorised encampments. Several factors have to
be considered on whether the criteria for police powers of removal are appropriate, legal and proportionate when considering the welfare needs of all parties.
In cases where police powers of removal are not proportionate, local officers will work with land owners to provide
reassurance and monitor any changes
to the original assessment. Any alleged reported crime and anti-social behaviour will still be recorded and dealt with under appropriate legislation and powers.
Operation Quebec, as the procedure
is known, is compliant with the recently published NPCC advice on dealing
with unauthorised encampments. While considering how to manage an unauthorised encampment, it is worth bearing in mind that a lack of suitable accommodation nationally and locally is a major factor.
Key issue
The key issue in respect of unauthorised GRT encampments is the lack of accommodation for the travelling communities. More permanent sites are required across the county and there are currently no allocated transit sites within Hampshire to accommodate nomadic GRT communities.
The shortage of suitable sites for GRT families to live on and access as they move around the country leads to groups setting up unauthorised encampments (and increasingly unauthorised developments where people buy land lawfully and develop it without planning permission) ? thus creating the biggest single source of conflict between the travelling and settled communities.
Ultimate aim
The GRTWG is working to address all these areas and reduce incidents of racism and discrimination against the GRT communities.
It won’t happen overnight and the GRTWG is making good progress.
Spare tyre said:
Even in today’s enlightened society, it’s a fact there is
a large ethnic group still experiencing widespread racism and discrimination: Gypsy, Traveller and Roma (GRT) communities.
The point that just about anyone in a uniform is missing is that the hatred of this element of society isn't based on their race. It's based on their utterly vile, disgusting, antisocial, and more often than not illegal (and unchecked/unchallenged) behaviour towards pretty much the entire rest of the populace. It doesn't matter, and it's irrelevant, where they're from, what colour they are, or what gender of person they like having sex with. They are invariably the core of a large (and growing?) group of utterly unsavoury thugs, criminals and ne'er do wells, and if an abhorrence of their normal behaviour is discrimination then it's probably time to knock down the Old Bailey and turn it into a permanent caravan site.a large ethnic group still experiencing widespread racism and discrimination: Gypsy, Traveller and Roma (GRT) communities.
CAPP0 said:
Spare tyre said:
Even in today’s enlightened society, it’s a fact there is
a large ethnic group still experiencing widespread racism and discrimination: Gypsy, Traveller and Roma (GRT) communities.
The point that just about anyone in a uniform is missing is that the hatred of this element of society isn't based on their race. It's based on their utterly vile, disgusting, antisocial, and more often than not illegal (and unchecked/unchallenged) behaviour towards pretty much the entire rest of the populace. It doesn't matter, and it's irrelevant, where they're from, what colour they are, or what gender of person they like having sex with. They are invariably the core of a large (and growing?) group of utterly unsavoury thugs, criminals and ne'er do wells, and if an abhorrence of their normal behaviour is discrimination then it's probably time to knock down the Old Bailey and turn it into a permanent caravan site.a large ethnic group still experiencing widespread racism and discrimination: Gypsy, Traveller and Roma (GRT) communities.
I have been vociferous enough in the past about this group of “society” and lack of action against them. But looking at it from plod on the street’s perspective, it IS bloody hard just as it is for the rest of us to look on at apparent legal apathy to the little scamps. So I can kind of understand it, except obviously that is what the job is.
The solution is for legislation to make the job of plod easier, give them the backing, the right tools and THEN let them get on with it. With such hand wringing leaders, plod is (probably literally) on a hiding to nothing.
It could be made easier, but there seems to be no Ireland type appetite (or discrimination as the limp wristed text puts it) to help the guys in the front line with some focus and teeth from the politicos and top ranks to help solve this growing problem.
Meanwhile, we all sit, watch and suffer in varying degrees.
Edited by SeeFive on Thursday 24th January 01:00
Come on chaps. Live & let live.
I'm amazed to see so many fervent right wingers having a go at gypsies.
Travellers are the ultimate free marketeers - you guys should be supporting them.
None of you want to pay any taxes, and they're living the PH'ers dream.
Cherish your local travelling community!
I'm amazed to see so many fervent right wingers having a go at gypsies.
Travellers are the ultimate free marketeers - you guys should be supporting them.
None of you want to pay any taxes, and they're living the PH'ers dream.
Cherish your local travelling community!
Burwood said:
They're the gift that keeps on giving:https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/110146909/unruly-to...
uncinqsix said:
Burwood said:
They're the gift that keeps on giving:https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/110146909/unruly-to...
British my arse. Tina Maria Cash? Good strong knacker name, that.
OpulentBob said:
uncinqsix said:
Burwood said:
They're the gift that keeps on giving:https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/110146909/unruly-to...
British my arse. Tina Maria Cash? Good strong knacker name, that.
uncinqsix said:
Is that a hire car or have they nicked it?If they get deported who pays for the flights?
RZ1 said:
uncinqsix said:
Is that a hire car or have they nicked it?If they get deported who pays for the flights?
I read that they have Irish passports and the name is Doran and not Johnstone (the name that they had given reporters at the NZ Herald). So, it looks like two families Doran/Cash.
Also, today:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_i...
Also, today:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_i...
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