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98elise

26,658 posts

162 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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Josho said:
That's near me, I saw the first one there on Saturday. One of the loveable scamps feral kids was jumping up and down on the roof of the bus shelter.



Mafffew

2,149 posts

112 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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anonymous said:
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I wonder if this is the same group who are having a wake at the Seven Red Roses in Lower Earley today. From what I understand local businesses have been warned, police are supposed to be increasing their presence in the area, and the small Sainsbury's are supposedly bringing in a guard...

Could be interesting, I might pop by on my way home and see what damage has been done!

andymc

7,363 posts

208 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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why did they leave Eire? there was reports of the provos "taxing" them

irocfan

40,555 posts

191 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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andymc said:
why did they leave Eire? there was reports of the provos "taxing" them
I think that the Irish government also advised them in no uncertain terms that just rocking up and being a bunch of loveable scamps wasn't on and they were forcibly (and swiftly) removed.

S11Steve

6,374 posts

185 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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andymc said:
why did they leave Eire? there was reports of the provos "taxing" them
"The Housing (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act, passed in 2002, made it an offence to enter and occupy land, or bring on to it any object that is likely to have one of five specified detrimental effects on the land or amenity. It provides no defence to this offence."

Along with a number of other Acts over the years that made it harder for them to "st on their own doorstep"

http://www.exchangehouse.ie/faq_legislationtimelin...

andymc

7,363 posts

208 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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S11Steve said:
andymc said:
why did they leave Eire? there was reports of the provos "taxing" them
"The Housing (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act, passed in 2002, made it an offence to enter and occupy land, or bring on to it any object that is likely to have one of five specified detrimental effects on the land or amenity. It provides no defence to this offence."

Along with a number of other Acts over the years that made it harder for them to "st on their own doorstep"

http://www.exchangehouse.ie/faq_legislationtimelin...
can we get this act?

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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andymc said:
S11Steve said:
andymc said:
why did they leave Eire? there was reports of the provos "taxing" them
"The Housing (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act, passed in 2002, made it an offence to enter and occupy land, or bring on to it any object that is likely to have one of five specified detrimental effects on the land or amenity. It provides no defence to this offence."

Along with a number of other Acts over the years that made it harder for them to "st on their own doorstep"

http://www.exchangehouse.ie/faq_legislationtimelin...
can we get this act?
Post brexit we can. Lobby your MP now!

irocfan

40,555 posts

191 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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SpeckledJim said:
andymc said:
S11Steve said:
andymc said:
why did they leave Eire? there was reports of the provos "taxing" them
"The Housing (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act, passed in 2002, made it an offence to enter and occupy land, or bring on to it any object that is likely to have one of five specified detrimental effects on the land or amenity. It provides no defence to this offence."

Along with a number of other Acts over the years that made it harder for them to "st on their own doorstep"

http://www.exchangehouse.ie/faq_legislationtimelin...
can we get this act?
Post brexit we can. Lobby your MP now!
why wait that long? Do it now!

CAPP0

19,605 posts

204 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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anonymous said:
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SNAFU then.

toastybase

2,226 posts

209 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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There was one in the new shopping centre in Oxford today.

Very dirty and ill fitting trousers, horrendous.

Hackney

6,853 posts

209 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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SpeckledJim said:
andymc said:
S11Steve said:
andymc said:
why did they leave Eire? there was reports of the provos "taxing" them
"The Housing (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act, passed in 2002, made it an offence to enter and occupy land, or bring on to it any object that is likely to have one of five specified detrimental effects on the land or amenity. It provides no defence to this offence."

Along with a number of other Acts over the years that made it harder for them to "st on their own doorstep"

http://www.exchangehouse.ie/faq_legislationtimelin...
can we get this act?
Post brexit we can. Lobby your MP now!
What’s Brexit gor to do with it. Ireland is in the EU

Tuvra

7,921 posts

226 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Anyone else notice that all the males walk with some kind of limp? It varies from a slightly odd walk to a full blown "drag your foot along the ground" type limp hehe

98elise

26,658 posts

162 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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SpeckledJim said:
andymc said:
S11Steve said:
andymc said:
why did they leave Eire? there was reports of the provos "taxing" them
"The Housing (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act, passed in 2002, made it an offence to enter and occupy land, or bring on to it any object that is likely to have one of five specified detrimental effects on the land or amenity. It provides no defence to this offence."

Along with a number of other Acts over the years that made it harder for them to "st on their own doorstep"

http://www.exchangehouse.ie/faq_legislationtimelin...
can we get this act?
Post brexit we can. Lobby your MP now!
Unfortunately Labour will be in power by then, and Travellers will have more rights.


Nerfbat

95 posts

127 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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http://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/news/travellers...

I live a couple of miles away from this, so keeping everything locked down until they finally get moved on (hopefully soon !).

CAPP0

19,605 posts

204 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Nerfbat said:
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/news/travellers...

I live a couple of miles away from this, so keeping everything locked down until they finally get moved on (hopefully soon !).
Last night they tried to get onto their regular field in Leybourne, but over the winter the council have built up earth bunds to stop them and so far it seems to have worked. However they moved to Larkfield, on the field on Lunsford Lane beside the M20. Larkfield PC put a new metal gate there after last year's incursions, with a strong padlock box, because previously the p* just cut the lock on the box. Since they couldn't get through the gate, they just smashed the wooden fence down and went in. Last time they were on that field it took some weeks to decontaminate it due to the levels of human waste left behind, the public were advised to keep away.

I expect the kids will be on the footbridge from that field which goes over the M20, lobbing bricks at cars now, so be careful if you're down that way (right by J4).

Why oh why is their behaviour tolerated and not clamped down on. (Rhetorical question).

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Hackney said:
What’s Brexit gor to do with it. Ireland is in the EU
The EU says they're a protected ethnic minority, and if you ask them not to steal your kid's bike, you're a racist.

Outside the EU, there's the opportunity to change that legislation.

(I'm not banging the Brexit drum, just outlining the situation)

S11Steve

6,374 posts

185 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Ructions said:
S11Steve said:
Ructions said:
I wouldn't be asking, I'd be jumping in to it in the early hours and driving straight to the boat.
I'm sure the guys have their own definition of "polite"...
If they don't get it back drop me a message and I'll see if I can do anything. As I said previously I'd be doing it quietly, I've been in Rathkeale once before and it isn't very welcoming.
Our van was collected last night with very little fuss, and is currently heading south from Cairnryan. There's about half a tonne of scrap metal in the back which the repo guy is going to weigh in as his finders fee.

Andy 308GTB

2,926 posts

222 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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S11Steve said:
Ructions said:
S11Steve said:
Ructions said:
I wouldn't be asking, I'd be jumping in to it in the early hours and driving straight to the boat.
I'm sure the guys have their own definition of "polite"...
If they don't get it back drop me a message and I'll see if I can do anything. As I said previously I'd be doing it quietly, I've been in Rathkeale once before and it isn't very welcoming.
Our van was collected last night with very little fuss, and is currently heading south from Cairnryan. There's about half a tonne of scrap metal in the back which the repo guy is going to weigh in as his finders fee.
Good for you. Thanks for posting up - I'm glad you got your van back.

I doubt if any action will be taken by the authorities against the perpetrators. They will just 'hire' their next van from another company... and remain above the law.


JuniorD

8,628 posts

224 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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andymc said:
why did they leave Eire? there was reports of the provos "taxing" them
I seriously doubt such reports to be true. "Provos", i.e. the P.I.R.A, and republicans more generally would have sympathy and high levels of toleration for the traveling community, not least because when the Catholic families were being burned from their houses in the likes of Bombay Street in Belfast in August 1969, it was the travellers who voluntarily came, at much personal risk, to help them flee.






Hackney

6,853 posts

209 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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SpeckledJim said:
Hackney said:
What’s Brexit gor to do with it. Ireland is in the EU
The EU says they're a protected ethnic minority, and if you ask them not to steal your kid's bike, you're a racist.

Outside the EU, there's the opportunity to change that legislation.

(I'm not banging the Brexit drum, just outlining the situation)
I’m also keen to avoid a Brexit argument. But Ireland enacted the legislation and they’re in the EU.
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