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SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Hackney said:
SpeckledJim said:
Hackney said:
What’s Brexit gor to do with it. Ireland is in the EU
The EU says they're a protected ethnic minority, and if you ask them not to steal your kid's bike, you're a racist.

Outside the EU, there's the opportunity to change that legislation.

(I'm not banging the Brexit drum, just outlining the situation)
I’m also keen to avoid a Brexit argument. But Ireland enacted the legislation and they’re in the EU.
Sorry, I misunderstood your point so we're talking at cross-purposes.

RoI enacted the legislation making the trespassing illegal, yes. We could copy that now (and should).

All of us (RoI, UK, RoEU) labour under the EU legislation giving travellers all the protections of a 'real' ethnic minority. That's the bit we'd have to wait until we're out to do anything about.

Frank7

6,619 posts

88 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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98elise said:
Unfortunately Labour will be in power by then, and Travellers will have more rights.
Please God, not Labour, it might be
better to move to Syria if that happens.

toastybase

2,226 posts

209 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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anonymous said:
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Yes, grey but very very filthy dirty. Very very dirty filthy

BrewsterBear

1,507 posts

193 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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toastybase said:
Yes, grey but very very filthy dirty. Very very dirty filthy
So you don't think they were clean then?

Ructions

4,705 posts

122 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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S11Steve said:
Ructions said:
S11Steve said:
Ructions said:
I wouldn't be asking, I'd be jumping in to it in the early hours and driving straight to the boat.
I'm sure the guys have their own definition of "polite"...
If they don't get it back drop me a message and I'll see if I can do anything. As I said previously I'd be doing it quietly, I've been in Rathkeale once before and it isn't very welcoming.
Our van was collected last night with very little fuss, and is currently heading south from Cairnryan. There's about half a tonne of scrap metal in the back which the repo guy is going to weigh in as his finders fee.
Glad to hear you got it back.

MattOz

3,912 posts

265 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Kenilworth horse fair is back next weekend, so expect another infestation in Leamington/Warwick and the surrounding area in the lead up.

rambo19

2,743 posts

138 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Back again, forcing tescos to close again!
https://www.essexlive.news/news/local-news/updates...

toastybase

2,226 posts

209 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Few in my garden picking from my vegetable patch earlier

CAPP0

19,605 posts

204 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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toastybase said:
Few in my garden picking from my vegetable patch earlier
Difficult to bolt growing veg down, I imagine. And from their perspective, it's there so it's theirs.

PositronicRay

27,048 posts

184 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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MattOz said:
Kenilworth horse fair is back next weekend, so expect another infestation in Leamington/Warwick and the surrounding area in the lead up.
I had to snigger (while feeling sorry for WPC) a while back, baking hot day, traveller popped into Robert Dyas. Left his horse and trotting cart on the zig-zag lines tied to the adjacent pedestrian crossing. Young WPC writing a ticket, wanders round the rig, realises she's no number plate or anywhere to stick said ticket, throws her arms in the air in frustration!

Recently the KHF has been much better managed in terms of traffic, parking and general unruly behaviour with a huge police presence. It used to be some of the town centre pubs had to close.

They'll lose the site once the NDP goes though, making the site owner a wealthy man I would imagine.

paulshears

804 posts

198 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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"North Ferriby United owner wants club ground to become a travellers' site"

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/football/tra...

He's says "will accommodate 46 caravans at £53.50 a week, that’s £2,461.00 a week" ... yer, good luck with that

Bit of a no story really because it's against the terms of the lease of the land

PositronicRay

27,048 posts

184 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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paulshears said:
"North Ferriby United owner wants club ground to become a travellers' site"

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/football/tra...

He's says "will accommodate 46 caravans at £53.50 a week, that’s £2,461.00 a week" ... yer, good luck with that

Bit of a no story really because it's against the terms of the lease of the land
North Ferriby Utd said


“The ground at Ferriby will accommodate 46 caravans at £53.50 a week, that’s £2,461.00 a week which could be a great amount of money to the club, with shower and changing facilities already on site as well as a clubhouse Ferriby’s ground is ideal and local travelling families are already scoping out the site and when we have a game they can just pull off for a few hours and maybe park on the Duke (of Cumberland) car park.


And

[i]
Jamie Waltham says not enough people are supporting his club (Image: Jerome Ellerby)
"I mean the Co-op, Duke pub and the social club do very well out of our match days but we don’t see a penny which is wrong so North Ferriby may well be the proud owner of a brand new travellers' site which I think would bring an interesting and diverse culture to the village as well as much needed revenue for the club.” [/i]

The truth of the matter is the implied threat.

Jamie also said.

“The only other way is for residents and businesses to back the club by attending games or sponsorship"



Edited by PositronicRay on Saturday 21st April 08:52

Jonesy23

4,650 posts

137 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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Jamie looks like he has a bit of travelling in his family background.

burritoNinja

690 posts

101 months

Sunday 22nd April 2018
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JuniorD said:
I seriously doubt such reports to be true. "Provos", i.e. the P.I.R.A, and republicans more generally would have sympathy and high levels of toleration for the traveling community, not least because when the Catholic families were being burned from their houses in the likes of Bombay Street in Belfast in August 1969, it was the travellers who voluntarily came, at much personal risk, to help them flee.
Not to mention that there has been a travellers camp up by ballymurphy for many years now. Though there does seem to be far more of them in England for whatever reason.

guindilias

5,245 posts

121 months

Sunday 22nd April 2018
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Because paramilitaries from either side will do anything for the cash - and they are the ones with the stolen cars, guns, and petrol bombs.
They set up in an empty car park that my office own a while back. Somebody phoned the boys, and they were gone by the next day.
I was about to say it's a shame you don't have paramilitary groups on the mainland - but it's not really a shame, is it! biggrin

S11Steve

6,374 posts

185 months

Sunday 22nd April 2018
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guindilias said:
I was about to say it's a shame you don't have paramilitary groups on the mainland - but it's not really a shame, is it! biggrin
There's quite a few from both sides "in exile" around Glasgow, Bolton and Birmingham.

The peace process only seemed to remove the army, stop reporting in the media, and let the terrorists become gangsters.

AstonZagato

12,719 posts

211 months

Sunday 22nd April 2018
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Back in the day, they would allegedly "bomb to order" for the building trade or if you fancied refurbishing your building at the UK government's expense. Things a but quiet for a builder? Your hotel looking a bit tired? Call to the right person, a clear bomb warning and some Semtex later and you'd need plenty of work doing to put it right.

Saleen836

11,125 posts

210 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Just watching tv prog titled 'The Housing Enforcers' court officers have been sent to a traveller site for unaid council tax, they have not paid any for approx 13 years and the council have had enough as the debt is over £100k, strangely enough they cant find any of the people named on the writ and when they do manage to speak to who they think is in charge of the site he says "everyone on your list is either in Canada or America, and to take what ever you want!"

carguy45

221 posts

165 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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They do park up in some strange places. There has been a camp of them beside one of our (PLC's) Dublin offices for nigh on 2 years now, and the whole shebang looks so bad that they no longer bring clients to the office but take them to a Coffee shop nearby instead. They're not doing any illegal (well, at least not publicly) though so can't be moved on.

Puggit

48,486 posts

249 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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paulshears said:
"North Ferriby United owner wants club ground to become a travellers' site"

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/football/tra...

He's says "will accommodate 46 caravans at £53.50 a week, that’s £2,461.00 a week" ... yer, good luck with that

Bit of a no story really because it's against the terms of the lease of the land
A quick look on Google Maps shows that North Ferriby only appear to exist around the football pitch. Is he seriously considering parking caravans on a football pitch, and then to move them off for 3 hours and play football?

Having just seen back to back relegations, I suspect the problem with cash flow are related to the quality of football wink
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