Travellers.......
Discussion
gtidriver said:
Why do you never see black or Asian travellers?
There better then the traveller level?You talk to a Asian traveler and they move'd across the UK to be an X, and the X is a dam good job, doctor,dentist, surgeon.
Oh the native traveler is split in two, the worst one's travel around kicked out by others, and are permanently migratory and so up setting the other's, aka normal travelers that do a hard days work tarmacking.
zygalski said:
Come on chaps. Live & let live.
I'm amazed to see so many fervent right wingers having a go at gypsies.
Travellers are the ultimate free marketeers - you guys should be supporting them.
None of you want to pay any taxes, and they're living the PH'ers dream.
Cherish your local travelling community!
I'm amazed to see so many fervent right wingers having a go at gypsies.
Travellers are the ultimate free marketeers - you guys should be supporting them.
None of you want to pay any taxes, and they're living the PH'ers dream.
Cherish your local travelling community!
They are also the ultimate libertarians - things like sending one’s kids to school, having car insurance, complying with money laundering regs etc is optional and the state seems unwilling/unable to touch them.
andymc said:
the thing is they behave like this every day in the UK, we just expect it
& now, you've got them back. Gone from here - www.stuff.co.nz/national/110203453/unruly-tourists...paua said:
& now, you've got them back. Gone from here - www.stuff.co.nz/national/110203453/unruly-tourists...
I just hope they tell their friends about how badly they were treated so no more of them get any ideas about coming here. andymc said:
the thing is they behave like this every day in the UK, we just expect it
Expect, and accept it. For all the vitriol spouted on PH (and I agree with every single word of it), the scum still have the upper hand, still win, still have the cars, cash and criminality.
They should have sold Brexit on keeping the wkers in Rathkeale. I'd take that rather than £350M/wk.
It's a long read, but I've come across a witness statement from a local authority as part of a recent "blanket injunction" appeal - many examples of bribery, extortion, breaking and entering, and all of the rest of the traveller standard practice, but also a few commebts along the lines of "not a typical example of traveller behaviour"....
https://www.redbridge.gov.uk/media/5283/witness-st...
As always, its the majority that give the rest a bad rep....
https://www.redbridge.gov.uk/media/5283/witness-st...
As always, its the majority that give the rest a bad rep....
chemistry said:
To paraphrase Nick Ferrari - will it actually make any difference?I share your cynicism, but changing it from a civil offence (trespass) to a criminal one (i.e. you can call the police) would surely help?
"Sajid Javid set out draft measures aimed at making it easier for officers to intervene and remove travellers from land they should not be on. The Home Secretary will also consider making it a criminal offence to set up such camps. It is currently defined in law as trespassing, a civil matter."
Of course, whether this will make it further than the draft stage remains to be seen.
"Sajid Javid set out draft measures aimed at making it easier for officers to intervene and remove travellers from land they should not be on. The Home Secretary will also consider making it a criminal offence to set up such camps. It is currently defined in law as trespassing, a civil matter."
Of course, whether this will make it further than the draft stage remains to be seen.
chemistry said:
I share your cynicism, but changing it from a civil offence (trespass) to a criminal one (i.e. you can call the police) would surely help?
"Sajid Javid set out draft measures aimed at making it easier for officers to intervene and remove travellers from land they should not be on. The Home Secretary will also consider making it a criminal offence to set up such camps. It is currently defined in law as trespassing, a civil matter."
Of course, whether this will make it further than the draft stage remains to be seen.
There is more than jusy s whp travel the country and stopping in makeshift camps."Sajid Javid set out draft measures aimed at making it easier for officers to intervene and remove travellers from land they should not be on. The Home Secretary will also consider making it a criminal offence to set up such camps. It is currently defined in law as trespassing, a civil matter."
Of course, whether this will make it further than the draft stage remains to be seen.
You want them all criminalised ? even though most are unkown becasue they never cause any greif.?
Brads67 said:
chemistry said:
I share your cynicism, but changing it from a civil offence (trespass) to a criminal one (i.e. you can call the police) would surely help?
"Sajid Javid set out draft measures aimed at making it easier for officers to intervene and remove travellers from land they should not be on. The Home Secretary will also consider making it a criminal offence to set up such camps. It is currently defined in law as trespassing, a civil matter."
Of course, whether this will make it further than the draft stage remains to be seen.
There is more than jusy s whp travel the country and stopping in makeshift camps."Sajid Javid set out draft measures aimed at making it easier for officers to intervene and remove travellers from land they should not be on. The Home Secretary will also consider making it a criminal offence to set up such camps. It is currently defined in law as trespassing, a civil matter."
Of course, whether this will make it further than the draft stage remains to be seen.
You want them all criminalised ? even though most are unkown becasue they never cause any greif.?
It's the ones who do cause the grief that the legislation is needed to tackle. Too many places are blighted with this, too often, for it not to have proper measures in law to combat it.
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